I am distraught watching the ulster final , our beloved game been destroyed and denigrated by the handpass. A race to the bottom skill wise .

handpassking (Galway) - Posts: 433 - 29/05/2022 21:05:38    2420890

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2385 - 30/05/2022 08:19:13    2420920

It would almost put you off football

LslashersFanatic (Longford) - Posts: 22 - 30/05/2022 08:25:21    2420922

A lot of people shout stop, and then county delegates go against those people and vote to keep the status quo at congress

weatherfieldgael (UK) - Posts: 60 - 30/05/2022 08:29:14    2420924

I agree wholeheartedly with your description of the Ulster final but I think we need to take a moment and analyse what has actually occurred.

I think the modern game has actually moved on quite a bit from the dirt that was played for most of the last decade by most teams. I believe most teams and managers are now playing a more adventurous style of football and are not as risk adverse.

Last year and the year before produced some wonderful football. The national league (which is played in awful weather conditions) is also much more entertaining.

The problem is that you will always have one or two managers or teams who will play this rubbish 15 men behind the ball type of football to gain some temporary success.

Rory Gallagher and Derry have played their card but it won't work come the business end of the championship when they go up against the real sharks. Kerry or Dublin would swat them away just like they did to Tyrone and Donegal when they persisted with playing this horrible safety first football.

Wally (Tyrone) - Posts: 912 - 30/05/2022 09:27:48    2420944

Typical hysteria. If it's not the Dubs money it's Ulster football. Get over yourselves.

JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1432 - 30/05/2022 09:49:05    2420951

i actually think the "negative" approach to football is almost like a rite of passage for intercounty teams.

Derry hadn't won an ulster title in over 20 years and now they have one. similar to cavan 2 years ago and similar to monaghan in 2013. Donegal managed all ireland success with it. Donegal and Monaghan have evolved their game to include a bit more style since.

Galway also went through this phase. I watched a monaghan-galway game a few years ago and it was really boring because of Galway's set up. They've evolved since too, as have tyrone & cavan...

dublin and kerry also play conservative football but its masked with exceptionally good football.

I wonder if meath, kildare and cork adopted this approach, even short term, would they too evolve into a good modern team that has the attributes needed to solve the far more farcical problem that is the munster and leinster championships?

side note - is gaelic football the only sport in the world where the fans are constantly crying out for rule changes because they don't like a conservative approach?

MalsBalls (Monaghan) - Posts: 180 - 30/05/2022 10:00:04    2420957

The Ulster final was a classic compared to the Munster final on Saturday which will go down as the worst game of the year in any sport despite Kerry kicking some lovely scores against a hugely disappointing Limerick team half of whom can't seem to kick a football only hand pass .

OpenStand (Limerick) - Posts: 673 - 30/05/2022 10:51:24    2420976

It wasn't a great game to be honest. Too much handpassing and fear of losing particularly on Donegal's part. However the absolute irony of a poster wailing banshee cries over a 2 point game rather than the phoney competitions that are the Leinster and Munster Championships. I will say it again, the vast majority of criticism of Ulster football is based on geography and inherent bias. Marty Morrisey's commentary yesterday was dripping with stereotypical nonsense about Ulster football. Tyrone last year were the best football side on the Island but all of a sudden the usual suspects resort to type about Ulster.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9703 - 30/05/2022 11:03:43    2420983

Nobody posted a more melodramatic and exaggerated headline post on Hoganstand ever

Al_Maguire (Donegal) - Posts: 244 - 30/05/2022 11:16:42    2420992

JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1432 - 30/05/2022 11:32:34    2420999

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1709 - 30/05/2022 11:36:28    2421004

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7346 - 30/05/2022 11:37:30    2421007

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 30/05/2022 11:55:19    2421023

[email protected] (Cavan) - Posts: 138 - 30/05/2022 12:22:17    2421031

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9703 - 30/05/2022 12:29:11    2421033

A single game where everyone leaving Clones is exhausted, fans included, because of what was a titanic battle and people are cribbing over the style of play. You will get games like this in Ulster, it's a claustrophobic province where we all know eachother and to some degree hate eachother but respect eachother maybe too much so you get these cautious games. It's time the rest of the country just stopped crying whenever it happens as if their poor wee hearts are sore from the state of the game because they see too many handpasses. But they'll ooh and aahh and applaud as James McCarthy solos up the pitch without getting touched before playing an easy pass inside to Con who has 20 metres of space to do whatever he wants in the Leinster final. As long as that pass is with the boot then it's wonderful play, god forbid it's a handpass. Or go on about the beautiful football being played in Killarney when there isn't a defender in sight.

The hypocrisy stinks honestly. Pat Spillane was salivating at the Dubs at half-time on Saturday and going on about the wonderful football, and as he was going on about the beautiful play they were showing one of the goals which was literally the Dubs just soloing up the pitch handpassing it and no Kildare player touching them.

People have been whingeing about Ulster teams handpassing the ball for as long as I remember. I'm sore about the result yesterday and about our own performance but the hand-wringing about the state of the game... It's pathetic, honestly.

JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1432 - 30/05/2022 12:35:38    2421035

We need to take perspective here. Soccer is the most supported game in the world and in soccer you have good games and bad games. Thats sport. While the Ulster final was drab in terms of style , it was intense, it was exciting , and was not without its moments of excellent play. Peadar Mohan's 3 x first half points for example. In general the trend has been very positive over the last few years at both county and club level , and I can safely say that I have watched more good games in the last 3 years than I did in the previous 10. Will there continue to be some games like yesterday's UF, yes. Will there be more one sided games like Saturday's, finals, yes. but hopefully too there will be more games like the Connacht final.
But I dont think we want every game to be the same and sometimes it can be intriguing to look at an intense tactical battle , even if the scores are not flowing.
And while we are at it, lets be honest, the Galway v Ros game would not have been nearly as entertaining if both teams had better defences.
So lets dispense with the chat about rule changes.. Gaelic football is in as good a health as it has been for a long time.

anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 840 - 30/05/2022 12:44:31    2421044

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7346 - 30/05/2022 12:45:39    2421046

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11876 - 30/05/2022 12:56:48    2421052