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Dublin are safe in the knowledge that they will never have to play Kerry in a packed Killarney or Mayo in Castlebar winner takes all game. People have tried to change the structure of the championship but it has been constantly voted against, so until that happens you can look forward to Dublin winning the next 10-20 Leinster titles in a row, and perhaps the All Ireland too. weatherfieldgael (UK) - Posts: 60 - 30/05/2022 08:33:07 2420928 Link
Since 2000, Kerry have won 17 munsters and six all irelands, Dublin 18 Leinsters and 8 all Irelands. Granted Dublin are hammering teams in Leinster for the last while, Kerry when in full flow destroy Munster teams to ke40 (Kildare) - Posts: 209 - 30/05/2022 09:03:17 2420936 Link
Replying To Malonemagic: "Absolute rubbish. Dublin have consistently walloped Ulster teams : Eg Monaghan by 17 points in 2014 Cavan by 15 points in 2020." 2014? You have to go back that long. Half of Div 1 are Ulster teams. There are no Leinster teams in the top flight. Granted that isn't the championship, but it's a measure as to where the standards across the provinces are at. There are at least 5 teams who are capable of beating Dublin in Ulster. There are none in Leinster. SoNearYetSoFarney (Monaghan) - Posts: 50 - 30/05/2022 09:13:17 2420938 Link
Replying To SoNearYetSoFarney: "I'd say the best thing to do is get Dublin to join the Ulster Championship. They won't win too many titles there. Then the rest of the underachieving losing teams in Leinster can start winning at last." Since Donegal beat Dublin in the 2014 semi final Dublin have played five different Ulster teams 9 times in championship and the record is as follows. Dublin 9 wins vs 0 wins Ulster teams The average winning margin in these 9 games has been 8 points. Dublin would stream roll Ulster competition just like Leinster Temple56 (Westmeath) - Posts: 396 - 30/05/2022 09:34:56 2420946 Link
The Dubs haven't just dominated Leinster they have dominated the ALL-Ireland too. Apart from a blip last year who would bet against them this year? It's all to easy to sit here and run down Kildare / Meath / Westmeath etc and say that they don't even get a tackle in or they don't get in their faces. These lads don't go out to be beaten like that. Kildare were a division 1 team this year and although relegated gave a decent enough account of ourselves even beating Dublin in Newbridge. Anyways I'm not overly worked up about what we saw on Saturday anymore, That's just the way the cards have been stacked for a long time now in favour of the dubs. We'll go out the next day and I'm more interested in seeing how our lads react after that. The Munster Championship is dead and I've no doubt that if any team in either of the other two provinces were at the standard the Dubs were at we would be having the same argument as this. Ulster team might not ship a hiding but does anyone really want to watch endless games where there are 29 men within one 45? Alas i think that while the dubs might be vulnerable this year in the latter stages I do fear that we are on the cusp of a further period of domination. Football needs to be reshaped a bit like the radical steps taken in hurling. I understand that the Ulster championship needs to be kept and there is no reason why that can't happen. Let the other provinces play for a southern conference type championship. daytona11 (Kildare) - Posts: 4012 - 30/05/2022 09:53:30 2420952 Link
Replying To gatha: "Football around the country is gone very bad. There is no Leinster or Munster championships. The 2 finals were dreadful. Galway and Roscommon was ok but at no point did you think Galway wouldn't win it. The Ulster final was absolutely terrible. The style of play in that watch would put you to sleep.There are a lot of problems in football. With all the tinkering they have done with rules and formats for the Championship it seems a complete mess. I don't know where you would begin to start fixing it but, looking forward how many competitive games are on the horizon. I see Kerry and Dublin Final and do not see either having much trouble getting there. The GAA made changes for the sake of change without addressing some of the real problems." ot wont be a dublin v kerry finsl, im sure of that Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 2845 - 30/05/2022 10:07:25 2420960 Link
Replying To weatherfieldgael: "Dublin are safe in the knowledge that they will never have to play Kerry in a packed Killarney or Mayo in Castlebar winner takes all game. People have tried to change the structure of the championship but it has been constantly voted against, so until that happens you can look forward to Dublin winning the next 10-20 Leinster titles in a row, and perhaps the All Ireland too." Yep agreed , lets take Dublin out of Croke Park and down to Killarney/Castlebar or anywhere bring it on for sure . superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 30/05/2022 10:33:00 2420969 Link
Replying To Stmunnsriver: "ot wont be a dublin v kerry finsl, im sure of that" Unless they are meeting in a semi-final i would take that bet. gatha (Kilkenny) - Posts: 318 - 30/05/2022 10:45:11 2420973 Link
Replying To Stmunnsriver: "ot wont be a dublin v kerry finsl, im sure of that" Don't think it can be the way the draw is. They will meet in the Semi if they both stay winning between now and then. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12027 - 30/05/2022 10:59:49 2420981 Link
Replying To daytona11: "The Dubs haven't just dominated Leinster they have dominated the ALL-Ireland too. Apart from a blip last year who would bet against them this year? It's all to easy to sit here and run down Kildare / Meath / Westmeath etc and say that they don't even get a tackle in or they don't get in their faces. These lads don't go out to be beaten like that. Kildare were a division 1 team this year and although relegated gave a decent enough account of ourselves even beating Dublin in Newbridge. Anyways I'm not overly worked up about what we saw on Saturday anymore, That's just the way the cards have been stacked for a long time now in favour of the dubs. We'll go out the next day and I'm more interested in seeing how our lads react after that. The Munster Championship is dead and I've no doubt that if any team in either of the other two provinces were at the standard the Dubs were at we would be having the same argument as this. Ulster team might not ship a hiding but does anyone really want to watch endless games where there are 29 men within one 45? Alas i think that while the dubs might be vulnerable this year in the latter stages I do fear that we are on the cusp of a further period of domination. Football needs to be reshaped a bit like the radical steps taken in hurling. I understand that the Ulster championship needs to be kept and there is no reason why that can't happen. Let the other provinces play for a southern conference type championship." Let them separate Provincials from All Ireland championship. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7360 - 30/05/2022 11:03:40 2420982 Link
Replying To SoNearYetSoFarney: "2014? You have to go back that long. Half of Div 1 are Ulster teams. There are no Leinster teams in the top flight. Granted that isn't the championship, but it's a measure as to where the standards across the provinces are at. There are at least 5 teams who are capable of beating Dublin in Ulster. There are none in Leinster." List the 5 Ulster teams Who are capable of beating Dublin in the Championship. Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6344 - 30/05/2022 11:06:20 2420985 Link
I dunno how you can keep one provincial championship and not the others. The overall provincial structure looks to be dead and we need a new format - keeping Ulster championship will diminish the chances of a new system working. Probably a format based on the league structure would be best. stillaroyal (Meath) - Posts: 224 - 30/05/2022 11:09:29 2420988 Link
Replying To SoNearYetSoFarney: "2014? You have to go back that long. Half of Div 1 are Ulster teams. There are no Leinster teams in the top flight. Granted that isn't the championship, but it's a measure as to where the standards across the provinces are at. There are at least 5 teams who are capable of beating Dublin in Ulster. There are none in Leinster." I wouldn't say 5. Tyrone might have beaten them last year, might have, but apart from that? Maybe Donegal or Derry but very unlikely imo. Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1720 - 30/05/2022 11:34:19 2421002 Link
Imagine every Ulster championship game was held in Croke Park do you think it would still have the same buzz? Leinster council need to move all Leinster Championship games out of Croke Park. Play them in O Moore park, Tullamore or Kilkenny 3 brilliant stadiums Temple56 (Westmeath) - Posts: 396 - 30/05/2022 11:44:01 2421013 Link
Replying To Galway9801: "I wouldn't say 5. Tyrone might have beaten them last year, might have, but apart from that? Maybe Donegal or Derry but very unlikely imo." I dont think 5 Ulster counties would be beating Dublin neccessarily. But I'd say 5 are in the top 10 or so counties in the country. Kerry, Dublin, Galway, Roscommon, and Mayo being the other 5. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12027 - 30/05/2022 12:08:29 2421028 Link
Replying To Temple56: "Imagine every Ulster championship game was held in Croke Park do you think it would still have the same buzz? Leinster council need to move all Leinster Championship games out of Croke Park. Play them in O Moore park, Tullamore or Kilkenny 3 brilliant stadiums" The Colm O'Rourke suggested split Dublin teams would sell out Croke Park for the Leinster final. Surely a great return on the capital financial investment? Time For Someone In GAA Authority To Say STOP? Time For Someone In GAA Authority To Say SPLIT! legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7871 - 30/05/2022 12:54:53 2421049 Link
Replying To Galway9801: "I wouldn't say 5. Tyrone might have beaten them last year, might have, but apart from that? Maybe Donegal or Derry but very unlikely imo." Capable of beating Dublin if Dublin were in the Ulster Championship - Tyrone, Monaghan, Armagh, Donegal and Derry. SoNearYetSoFarney (Monaghan) - Posts: 50 - 30/05/2022 12:55:37 2421050 Link
I think football is in big trouble at senior inter county level, as a product it is almost unwatchable in a lot of cases. The quietness of the crowds in Salthill and Clones yesterday was stark, even though the places were packed out, there was very little to get excited about, especially in the Ulster final. Add in the fact that the Munster and Leinster championships are foregone conclusions and I think the game has very big problems. It just isn't entertaining anymore. Lads afraid or told not to take shots from 45 yards out etc, backpassing constantly, sweeper goalkeepers going up the field, short kickouts which take out the high fielding aspect of it. Dropping the ball in on the square is old caveman tactics etc etc even though it is one of the most exciting spectacles in the sport. But there will be one exciting game which will come along in the quarter finals or qualifiers and then the GAA will spin it that the game is in rude health, and don't mind the detractors. weatherfieldgael (UK) - Posts: 60 - 30/05/2022 13:15:21 2421064 Link
Ah I've missed these threads, like seeing an old friend after a year or so. ;) Might dig it out when we're dogging it in Div 2 next year. :D TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 30/05/2022 13:43:46 2421081 Link
Replying To legendzxix: "The Colm O'Rourke suggested split Dublin teams would sell out Croke Park for the Leinster final. Surely a great return on the capital financial investment? Time For Someone In GAA Authority To Say STOP? Time For Someone In GAA Authority To Say SPLIT!" Time for you to cop on to yourself , aint gonna happen kid . superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 30/05/2022 13:46:24 2421083 Link