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Think you'll find there are loads of sensible posts on here, you're focusing on one poster out of maybe 10 from Donegal who have posted on this thread. Donegal have loads of work to do to beat Cavan this Sunday. An opponent who beat us in the previous championship outing can't be take for granted for a single second. Anything else is hot air. Both teams could really do with the win so it makes for a fascinating day. Very few would have given Derry a prayer yesterday so Ulster is once again proving the only provincial competition worth the name.
Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1321 - 03/05/2022 16:01:09 2414673 Link 0 |
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Dublin , Roscommon both played a Div 4 side this weekend and look at the results. How did we get on against Sligo and Wexford There a big difference in the speed of the games involving Div 1/2 sides. You will see that on Sunday. The best we can hope for is a Donegal collapse because if they play to their best they will beat us by 8/10 points . Sad but true . Breffni1969 (Cavan) - Posts: 510 - 03/05/2022 16:07:10 2414678 Link 1 |
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"How did we get on against Sligo and Wexford?" We won Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12120 - 03/05/2022 16:47:20 2414698 Link 4 |
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To reply to your post your absolutely right about Derry they gave you a tough game last year and could have nicked it ,but Derry have been improving for the last few years and I wouldn't rule them out of winning Ulster this year on the other hand Tyrone were well out of sorts on Sunday so will be hard to call. As for my own county we would need an awful lot to go right for us on the day just hope we give you a good hard fought game and may the best team prevail but sadly if we keep missing our chances likewe have been doing I would expect Donegal to win handy enough. As always I shall be watching the game with my Donegal friends and we'll still have a pint afterwards win or loose. Up Cavan
[email protected] (Cavan) - Posts: 138 - 03/05/2022 17:33:32 2414721 Link 0 |
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We beat them. Does it matter if you thrash a team, or aim by a few points? Cavan are very rarely a team that puts up cricket scores. We generally play to the level of the opposition, which means we compete be it at Division 1 or 4 level. But what even does that matter? You seem to be another who is obsessed with League only. It was clear Cavan were trying things and holding back a bit. Here's one for you. We beat a team by 13 points a week ago who were pushing for promotion from Division 3. So what on earth is your point about our League form? We have very clearly been different in League and Championship in Grahams time
Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2391 - 03/05/2022 17:51:14 2414726 Link 1 |
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Three things have to happen for Cavan to win they have to start well and convert 80 percent of their chances which is a big ask' breffnibluewhite (Cavan) - Posts: 456 - 03/05/2022 19:43:27 2414748 Link 0 |
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And wexford bet a div2 team in the earlier round. League is a training ground with no comparison needed to championship... Anyhow to the task at hand. If anyone thinks Donegal underestimated Cavan the last day then that a disservice to the Cavan players that played that dday. Cavan hit, harried and disrupted along with great tactics and some expert point taking. Some of those players haven't hit point like that since. For me, Donegal played as well as they were let.. So Cavan known what they need to do and its the same again. From a Cavan point of view its nice to have a Donegal team looking over the shoulder. Strangely enough I though the game management by both teams in the championship so far has been brilliant so it could come down to that on the day. I'm not sure Donegal know their best team yet. I not sure what they are trying to do with Mogan and Ban Gallagher through the middle. Mc Fadden doesn't seem to have the energy he had but then again Murphy looks better inside. Any shout for McGee to start at full back :) All said, it surely couldn't happen twice!!! ponger (Cavan) - Posts: 541 - 03/05/2022 21:51:29 2414758 Link 1 |
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Well Done
monaghanmad (Monaghan) - Posts: 379 - 04/05/2022 08:58:15 2414770 Link 2 |
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Referees are always neutral lad… yawn.
Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1321 - 04/05/2022 10:53:32 2414809 Link 0 |
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I don't think Mayo should be mentioned with Dublin or Kerry anymore, as Mayo haven't won an All Ireland title in over 60 years or more. In a straight knock-out I think Donegal and Monaghan are capable of beating any of the other teams, I wouldn't rule it out.
Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1118 - 04/05/2022 11:12:08 2414812 Link 1 |
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Lets be honest though, Cassidy was a joke in that final 18 months ago, and he has a lot of links to Donegal. At least it's Conor Lane for Sunday. Think he's overall a decent ref, and one from far outside the province so will keep things right
Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2391 - 04/05/2022 11:38:40 2414816 Link 0 |
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If Tyrone are still being mentioned as having a chance later in the summer, then I don't know why Donegal and Monaghan wouldn't too. Tyrone look to be in an awful state right now, and I know the whole thing about never writing off Tyrone, they thrive on that and when their backs are against the wall etc. etc. - but you can only go to the well so much with that craic. They can't keep doing that as it takes an awful lot of buy in and commitment from everyone, which you'd now question with the amount of fellas who have left their panel. They have a big problem with depth right now. I'd have said the likes of McShane and McKenna should be left in reserve as impact subs as they're not performing when starting games, but Tyrone are that light on the bench that they nearly can't afford to do that now. On top of all that, their discipline has went to hell. Playing on the edge and partaking in the "dark arts" is one thing, all top teams do it. But Tyrone are picking up cards now for needless, petulant nonsense, stuff you'd never have seen from them in the past. patk (Monaghan) - Posts: 936 - 04/05/2022 11:39:00 2414817 Link 0 |
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Cavan will Donegal their fill of it on Sunday. They look well rested and very motivated to show Div 4 was a blip. Eddie the Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 1064 - 04/05/2022 11:55:15 2414824 Link 0 |
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I know things can seem one sided but I don't think it's fair to question a refs neutrality or integrity, it's a very tough job to do and they don't get everything right (no one does), not always helped by their umpires and linesmen that much either, and then Croke Park makes a mockery of their match reports with their ridiculous appeals processes. You'd often imagine though against the bigger teams the decisions would always seem to favour them, maybe it's a perception thing I don't know, I don't think the refs going to win the game for either side next Sunday regardless, it's up to the players to put the scores on the board. Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2754 - 04/05/2022 12:27:41 2414828 Link 0 |
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I agree, I expect a much tougher test from Cavan than Armagh, this is Ulster Championship we can forget about league positions.
Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2754 - 04/05/2022 17:28:06 2414913 Link 0 |
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I don't think it takes a total collapse for Cavan to win, personally I think Cavan's back six are among the best in Ulster with Raymond Galligan in goals, and Gearoid McKiernan is a power house in the middle. I think that while they are defensively solid, they aren't versatile enough when attacking against the bigger teams IMO and that is where they need to improve. Looking at Cavan stats for 2020 League and Championship so far All 9 Games - Scored 1-15 on average, conceded > 0-12 on average. Remove bottom 3 league teams (Playing weak teams can sometime inflate scoring averages) - Scored 1-13 and conceded 0-12 Looking at Donegal stats for 2020 League and Championship so far All 8 Games - Scored 1-11, conceded 1-12 on average. Remove games where 7-8 players missing, Scored 1-15, conceded 0-13 If we take into account that Donegal have been playing in Division 1 against top sides in every game and Cavan's games were against the weakest teams in the league generally (Except Tipperary), that should ordinarily suggest the Division 1 team should perform better than their average to date and the Division 4 team should perform worst than average. However while Cavan were operating in Division 4 this season, everybody knows they are really a Division 1/2 team and maybe partied too hard after the 2020 Ulster success and didn't commit right in 2021. I think it will be a tight enough match, expect Donegal to edge it by 5 points. Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1118 - 04/05/2022 18:08:02 2414921 Link 0 |
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Kerry are getting further away if anything, regardless of the annual post league media hype. Mayo? Would you come on. The likely winners will be Dublin or an Ulster team.
greatpoint (USA) - Posts: 427 - 04/05/2022 19:39:27 2414934 Link 0 |
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Getting closer to the game now and the excitement is building. I have a lot of friends from Cavan so the craic and the banter has been great. I don't think Donegal have any injury worries other than Gallen and we'll have the two suspended lads back. We are painfully forewarned about the danger Cavan present after 2020 and this game is also in Clones which I think our lads will prefer. Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9147 - 05/05/2022 11:46:46 2415020 Link 0 |
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I'm really looking forward to Sunday's match now. I'll be driving up from Dublin with my two young lads. It will be their first Championship game so I'm really hoping that it will be one to remember for all the right reasons. obreaslainp (Donegal) - Posts: 8 - 05/05/2022 14:38:55 2415073 Link 0 |
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I've been impressed myself with Bonners interviews lately, I like the way he works with Rochford and the rest of the management team, we have a great chance on Sunday to get back to another Ulster final, the qualifiers could be a real minefield you wouldn't know who you'd draw, I hope Gallen is fit for Sunday, also great to see Neil back available even if it's only from the bench the fans love him and he's some option to have if needed to steady the ship. I see the forecast changed a bit, could be wet in Clones I'd say our boys would have preferred a dry day.
Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2754 - 05/05/2022 15:24:58 2415084 Link 0 |