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Donegal V Cavan Ulster Semi Final

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Replying To JoeSoap:  "And that Cavan underage team had our number on many occasions, they were a great side"
Indeed. And with the 2020 result, it shows that we can compete. It's why Donegal are rightly favourites, but Cavan have the talent to have a chance. Maybe a small one, and need a lot to go right, but a chance nevertheless

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2391 - 01/05/2022 13:37:36    2414351

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Replying To Loughduff Lad:  "Still a fair few of those U20 winning teams about. They're all now at that age around 30 with good experience and such, many nearly on 100 inter County appearances for Cavan. They're pretty much the backbone of the team. Interesting note that Cavan won a minor Ulster in 2011, and some of those players then won an U21 title and Senior in 2020. Think there's 5 of them. Very rare for Cavan to have players with a provincial clean sweep"
I think only Killian Clarke, Conor Moynagh, Gerry Smith and Ciaran Brady from that 2011 minor team playing regularly playing for us when fit. It's a shame a few more not still involved as some very good players on that panel. McVitty, Argue, Dillon , the Grahams, Buchannan that I can think of.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 01/05/2022 16:20:52    2414386

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Replying To s goldrick:  "I think only Killian Clarke, Conor Moynagh, Gerry Smith and Ciaran Brady from that 2011 minor team playing regularly playing for us when fit. It's a shame a few more not still involved as some very good players on that panel. McVitty, Argue, Dillon , the Grahams, Buchannan that I can think of."
Aye that's about right. 4 from one team is fair enough going though, especially 11 years later. If you were getting that from a good team every few years, it'd be good support into your Seniors. McVeety is a big loss alright. Hope he does come back in if he's home for good

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2391 - 01/05/2022 16:35:59    2414394

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Replying To s goldrick:  "I think only Killian Clarke, Conor Moynagh, Gerry Smith and Ciaran Brady from that 2011 minor team playing regularly playing for us when fit. It's a shame a few more not still involved as some very good players on that panel. McVitty, Argue, Dillon , the Grahams, Buchannan that I can think of."
All championship games have to be won on the field and on merit. Whether you are the underdog or the favourite you have we to have the right attitude, Cavan deservedly beat us in 2020 and will beat us again if we don't treat them with respect.

totalrecall (Leitrim) - Posts: 920 - 01/05/2022 17:09:43    2414403

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Just look at that great win for Derry they absolutely slaughtered Tyrone at home, some game coming up now against Monaghan, impossible to call that one for me,
Shows you if you have the hunger like Cavan had in 2020 that can get you over the line against the favs on the day, Ulster is a real bear pit, nothing can be taken for granted.
Donegal are forewarned and hopefully forearmed now, no excuses this time.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2754 - 01/05/2022 17:58:59    2414425

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Replying To Loughduff Lad:  "Aye that's about right. 4 from one team is fair enough going though, especially 11 years later. If you were getting that from a good team every few years, it'd be good support into your Seniors. McVeety is a big loss alright. Hope he does come back in if he's home for good"
4 is very good 11 years later. Donegal have one minor from 2011 in Patrick mcbrearty. Minors is a funny business. Donegal don't have much minor success. They did have three strong teams in 14, 15 and 16 winning three ulster league and two ulster championships. They won the under 21 in 17 and would have been a strong favorite in 18 but fell victim of the age change. The 2014 minors lost an all ireland final to kerry in 2014 and I thought there would be a whole host of seniors off it and just three started against armagh - Jamie brennan, eoghan ban Gallagher, and Stephen mcmenamin (he was underage in 15 as well). Caolan mcgonagle came off the bench.

There were a number of others you thought were certainties to break through but haven't for one reason or another. Two of them have had a really rough ride with injuries and some others just seemed to lack the commitment and discipline needed.

Ulsterchamps_32 (Donegal) - Posts: 696 - 01/05/2022 18:55:24    2414446

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Replying To thegadfly:  "That's the most sensible post I've read on this topic so far. Thanks. Very refreshing to read compared to a lot of the commentary. Murphsballs was spouting the exact same drivel in the week leading up to the 2020 final and deserves to be ignored."
If you can send me a post I made from the week leading up to the 2020 final, or in fact the 2020 season I'll take my hat off to you. Otherwise, I will just have to iterate the fact that you are talking drivel just by making that post.

Before you do look for any of my comments from 2020 I may tell you that I wasn't even on Hogan Stand in 2020. Good luck with the search.

Donegal - 10+ point win

Cavan - Tailteann Cup and exactly where they belong.

MurphBalls (Donegal) - Posts: 178 - 03/05/2022 10:38:19    2414495

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Replying To MurphBalls:  "If you can send me a post I made from the week leading up to the 2020 final, or in fact the 2020 season I'll take my hat off to you. Otherwise, I will just have to iterate the fact that you are talking drivel just by making that post.

Before you do look for any of my comments from 2020 I may tell you that I wasn't even on Hogan Stand in 2020. Good luck with the search.

Donegal - 10+ point win

Cavan - Tailteann Cup and exactly where they belong."
Bit of respect wudnt go amiss lad.

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2410 - 03/05/2022 11:27:04    2414510

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Replying To MurphBalls:  "If you can send me a post I made from the week leading up to the 2020 final, or in fact the 2020 season I'll take my hat off to you. Otherwise, I will just have to iterate the fact that you are talking drivel just by making that post.

Before you do look for any of my comments from 2020 I may tell you that I wasn't even on Hogan Stand in 2020. Good luck with the search.

Donegal - 10+ point win

Cavan - Tailteann Cup and exactly where they belong."
Is it 10 Ulster titles Donegal have?

[email protected] (Cavan) - Posts: 138 - 03/05/2022 11:48:54    2414522

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Looking forward to this game now, good vibe ahead of it, everybody is expecting it to be a real tight battle.

Cavan were by far the better team in 2020, in fact if it wasn't for two Cavan black cards, they would have probably beat us by a larger margin. Cavan had us tactically sussed out and it was the game that kinda made me realise that we have a few big name players with automatic starting places who shouldn't have automatic starting places.

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1118 - 03/05/2022 11:53:39    2414525

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Replying To rorysboys:  "Bit of respect wudnt go amiss lad."
Because you know all about respect don't you! I was being called out for talking drivel the week leading up to the Ulster final in 2020 when it was clearly false. I suppose that's pure respect is it? I'm assuming you have an answer for me whether it was or wasn't?

MurphBalls (Donegal) - Posts: 178 - 03/05/2022 12:15:44    2414540

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Replying To [email protected]:  "Is it 10 Ulster titles Donegal have?"
Is it the 21st century or are we all living in the 1940s with yourself?

MurphBalls (Donegal) - Posts: 178 - 03/05/2022 12:16:47    2414542

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Replying To [email protected]:  "Is it 10 Ulster titles Donegal have?"
Yeah we have 39/40 Donegal have 10 Murphy and McBrearty probably have 5 each.
But we in Cavan love to talk about past glories in the 40s and 50s
We have 2 titles in 53 years but we like to blow about the 36 other titles we won !!
This team should be making their own history. Forget the distant past! It's a memory that has no bearing on recent times!

Breffni1969 (Cavan) - Posts: 510 - 03/05/2022 12:23:50    2414552

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Replying To MurphBalls:  "Is it the 21st century or are we all living in the 1940s with yourself?"
Don't matter when it was it's still 40v10 and it's in the history books whether you like it or not it's a fact.

[email protected] (Cavan) - Posts: 138 - 03/05/2022 12:53:46    2414565

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Replying To Breffni1969:  "Yeah we have 39/40 Donegal have 10 Murphy and McBrearty probably have 5 each.
But we in Cavan love to talk about past glories in the 40s and 50s
We have 2 titles in 53 years but we like to blow about the 36 other titles we won !!
This team should be making their own history. Forget the distant past! It's a memory that has no bearing on recent times!"
Agree with you but both Cavan and Down are the most successful teams in Ulster ,do you want to erase that from history then we're not the only Ulster team that hasn't been successful for years Donegal and Tyrone are the most consistent teams in latter years but they weren't very prominent before then.

[email protected] (Cavan) - Posts: 138 - 03/05/2022 13:02:55    2414571

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Replying To [email protected]:  "Don't matter when it was it's still 40v10 and it's in the history books whether you like it or not it's a fact."
I know it's fact so well done on being from Cavan but we're discussing Cavan Vs Donegal in 2022. Because Cavan have 40 Ulster titles doesn't automatically mean they are good enough for the Sam Maguire competition in 2022. The Tailteann Cup was created for counties like Cavan, Tipperary and the likes who have zero chance of winning Sam Maguire, an opportunity to win national silverware. So until you start realising that then I suppose you are a bit delusional and still living in 1940 when Cavan dominated Ulster.

Cavan winning 40 Ulster titles is irrelevant to what is being discussed or even the viewpoints I brought up so welcome to the discussion but maybe get your point across better next time.

MurphBalls (Donegal) - Posts: 178 - 03/05/2022 13:10:22    2414574

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Replying To [email protected]:  "Agree with you but both Cavan and Down are the most successful teams in Ulster ,do you want to erase that from history then we're not the only Ulster team that hasn't been successful for years Donegal and Tyrone are the most consistent teams in latter years but they weren't very prominent before then."
Agree! That's some Consolation to Down after last Sundays performance isn't it?
We never hear Down talking about their glory days.
But us , we want to erect statues in Cavan Town!
We know what we won and are grateful to those men back in the day . But what relevance has it to Other Counties.
Whether Donegal have 10 or 100 don't matter.
Murphy and McBrearty have 5 each and they are 2 players still playing and we have to out wit them next Sunday!
John Joe Reilly can't help us out there!!

Breffni1969 (Cavan) - Posts: 510 - 03/05/2022 13:27:06    2414578

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Replying To [email protected]:  "Don't matter when it was it's still 40v10 and it's in the history books whether you like it or not it's a fact."
Aye the history book will do you a world of good come Sunday alright.

papa_pump (Donegal) - Posts: 71 - 03/05/2022 13:30:28    2414581

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Replying To MurphBalls:  "Because you know all about respect don't you! I was being called out for talking drivel the week leading up to the Ulster final in 2020 when it was clearly false. I suppose that's pure respect is it? I'm assuming you have an answer for me whether it was or wasn't?"
Grow up. The Cavan poster thought it was you. No need to lose the head. We all make mistakes.

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2410 - 03/05/2022 13:31:37    2414582

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Replying To MurphBalls:  "I know it's fact so well done on being from Cavan but we're discussing Cavan Vs Donegal in 2022. Because Cavan have 40 Ulster titles doesn't automatically mean they are good enough for the Sam Maguire competition in 2022. The Tailteann Cup was created for counties like Cavan, Tipperary and the likes who have zero chance of winning Sam Maguire, an opportunity to win national silverware. So until you start realising that then I suppose you are a bit delusional and still living in 1940 when Cavan dominated Ulster.

Cavan winning 40 Ulster titles is irrelevant to what is being discussed or even the viewpoints I brought up so welcome to the discussion but maybe get your point across better next time."
Wow! Cavan has 40 Ulster titles. That's amazing. Donegal has 10. The stats don't lie.

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1921 - 03/05/2022 13:34:35    2414583

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