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Munster Hurling Relegation Play-Off: Kerry V Tipperary (25Th Of June 2022)

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Replying To brianb:  "
Replying To legendzxix:  "[quote=skirge7:  "[quote=legendzxix:  "25.06.2022 (Sat)
Relegation Play-Off (If required*)
Joe McDonagh Cup Winner v 5th Placed Team Munster group
*If Ciarraí win the Joe McDonagh Cup, they shall playoff against the bottom team in the
Munster Championship 'round-robin' at a neutral Munster venue determined by the CCCC.

Joe McDonagh 2022 Final: Antrim v Kerry
Antrim are rightly the raging hot favourites. Antrim had already qualified for the final when Kerry beat them today, May 21st.
If Kerry somehow pull off the shock of the decade, Kerry will take on 5th in Munster in a Relegation Play-Off!
Also please note:
Saturday 11/Sunday 12 June
All-Ireland SHC preliminary quarter-finals
Joe McDonagh Cup winner v 3rd placed Munster group
Joe McDonagh Cup runner-up v 3rd placed Leinster group"
If Kerry win they should just put 6 teams in Munster. It's not any extra weekends. And I don't think that there is any point in relegating one of the other teams."
In my humble opinion, the 6th team in Leinster should be relegated. The Munster Championship can have 6 teams next year instead.
Antrim are the raging hot favourites however and rightly so. Antrim are confident of getting above Laois and Westmeath in the pecking order."]I think you're right there. But what if Kerry were promoted to Munster with 6 teams and won a game. You might potentially relegate Waterford or Cork or Tipperary. We can't have that. The Munster championship must not allow for any chance of relegation."]Why not? If Kerry accept the daunting task of entering a 6 team Munster championship, and if Kerry finish 5th. The 6th place team would have to make way for the integrity of the game. The McDonagh Cup is a part of the All-Ireland series. If Cork, Waterford or Tipperary ended up in the McDonagh, they should be men enough to take their medicine. Under the current agreed provincial round robin, everyone should have some threat of relegation. Cork, Waterford or Tipperary in such an unlikely scenario would have to focus on making the McDonagh final to qualify for the All-Ireland series. Offaly have lead the way for taking their medicine. The integrity of the game and the current agreed provincial round robin depends on it.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 6792 - 22/05/2022 11:57:16    2419348

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Replying To brianb:  "
Replying To legendzxix:  "[quote=skirge7:  "[quote=legendzxix:  "25.06.2022 (Sat)
Relegation Play-Off (If required*)
Joe McDonagh Cup Winner v 5th Placed Team Munster group
*If Ciarraí win the Joe McDonagh Cup, they shall playoff against the bottom team in the
Munster Championship 'round-robin' at a neutral Munster venue determined by the CCCC.

Joe McDonagh 2022 Final: Antrim v Kerry
Antrim are rightly the raging hot favourites. Antrim had already qualified for the final when Kerry beat them today, May 21st.
If Kerry somehow pull off the shock of the decade, Kerry will take on 5th in Munster in a Relegation Play-Off!
Also please note:
Saturday 11/Sunday 12 June
All-Ireland SHC preliminary quarter-finals
Joe McDonagh Cup winner v 3rd placed Munster group
Joe McDonagh Cup runner-up v 3rd placed Leinster group"
If Kerry win they should just put 6 teams in Munster. It's not any extra weekends. And I don't think that there is any point in relegating one of the other teams."
In my humble opinion, the 6th team in Leinster should be relegated. The Munster Championship can have 6 teams next year instead.
Antrim are the raging hot favourites however and rightly so. Antrim are confident of getting above Laois and Westmeath in the pecking order."]I think you're right there. But what if Kerry were promoted to Munster with 6 teams and won a game. You might potentially relegate Waterford or Cork or Tipperary. We can't have that. The Munster championship must not allow for any chance of relegation."]I take it you are being sarcastic? If Kerry beat any of them they deserve to be relegated.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 5228 - 22/05/2022 12:23:32    2419357

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Replying To legendzxix:  "
Replying To brianb:  "[quote=legendzxix:  "[quote=skirge7:  "[quote=legendzxix:  "25.06.2022 (Sat)
Relegation Play-Off (If required*)
Joe McDonagh Cup Winner v 5th Placed Team Munster group
*If Ciarraí win the Joe McDonagh Cup, they shall playoff against the bottom team in the
Munster Championship 'round-robin' at a neutral Munster venue determined by the CCCC.

Joe McDonagh 2022 Final: Antrim v Kerry
Antrim are rightly the raging hot favourites. Antrim had already qualified for the final when Kerry beat them today, May 21st.
If Kerry somehow pull off the shock of the decade, Kerry will take on 5th in Munster in a Relegation Play-Off!
Also please note:
Saturday 11/Sunday 12 June
All-Ireland SHC preliminary quarter-finals
Joe McDonagh Cup winner v 3rd placed Munster group
Joe McDonagh Cup runner-up v 3rd placed Leinster group"
If Kerry win they should just put 6 teams in Munster. It's not any extra weekends. And I don't think that there is any point in relegating one of the other teams."
In my humble opinion, the 6th team in Leinster should be relegated. The Munster Championship can have 6 teams next year instead.
Antrim are the raging hot favourites however and rightly so. Antrim are confident of getting above Laois and Westmeath in the pecking order."]I think you're right there. But what if Kerry were promoted to Munster with 6 teams and won a game. You might potentially relegate Waterford or Cork or Tipperary. We can't have that. The Munster championship must not allow for any chance of relegation."]Why not? If Kerry accept the daunting task of entering a 6 team Munster championship, and if Kerry finish 5th. The 6th place team would have to make way for the integrity of the game. The McDonagh Cup is a part of the All-Ireland series. If Cork, Waterford or Tipperary ended up in the McDonagh, they should be men enough to take their medicine. Under the current agreed provincial round robin, everyone should have some threat of relegation. Cork, Waterford or Tipperary in such an unlikely scenario would have to focus on making the McDonagh final to qualify for the All-Ireland series. Offaly have lead the way for taking their medicine. The integrity of the game and the current agreed provincial round robin depends on it."]Think he was being sarcastic. Surely??????

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 5228 - 22/05/2022 12:24:20    2419358

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Replying To Viking66:  "
Replying To legendzxix:  "[quote=brianb:  "[quote=legendzxix:  "[quote=skirge7:  "[quote=legendzxix:  "25.06.2022 (Sat)
Relegation Play-Off (If required*)
Joe McDonagh Cup Winner v 5th Placed Team Munster group
*If Ciarraí win the Joe McDonagh Cup, they shall playoff against the bottom team in the
Munster Championship 'round-robin' at a neutral Munster venue determined by the CCCC.

Joe McDonagh 2022 Final: Antrim v Kerry
Antrim are rightly the raging hot favourites. Antrim had already qualified for the final when Kerry beat them today, May 21st.
If Kerry somehow pull off the shock of the decade, Kerry will take on 5th in Munster in a Relegation Play-Off!
Also please note:
Saturday 11/Sunday 12 June
All-Ireland SHC preliminary quarter-finals
Joe McDonagh Cup winner v 3rd placed Munster group
Joe McDonagh Cup runner-up v 3rd placed Leinster group"
If Kerry win they should just put 6 teams in Munster. It's not any extra weekends. And I don't think that there is any point in relegating one of the other teams."
In my humble opinion, the 6th team in Leinster should be relegated. The Munster Championship can have 6 teams next year instead.
Antrim are the raging hot favourites however and rightly so. Antrim are confident of getting above Laois and Westmeath in the pecking order."]I think you're right there. But what if Kerry were promoted to Munster with 6 teams and won a game. You might potentially relegate Waterford or Cork or Tipperary. We can't have that. The Munster championship must not allow for any chance of relegation."]Why not? If Kerry accept the daunting task of entering a 6 team Munster championship, and if Kerry finish 5th. The 6th place team would have to make way for the integrity of the game. The McDonagh Cup is a part of the All-Ireland series. If Cork, Waterford or Tipperary ended up in the McDonagh, they should be men enough to take their medicine. Under the current agreed provincial round robin, everyone should have some threat of relegation. Cork, Waterford or Tipperary in such an unlikely scenario would have to focus on making the McDonagh final to qualify for the All-Ireland series. Offaly have lead the way for taking their medicine. The integrity of the game and the current agreed provincial round robin depends on it."]Think he was being sarcastic. Surely??????"]Yes - I was being sarcastic. Apologies - I forgot this was the internet where tone can be difficult to put across.

I agree with the posters on here who say Kerry should be promoted to a 6 team Munster championship - Laois could still go down and have a 5 team Leinster championship. I'd guess Kerry might fancy their chances a bit more at staying up in Leinster. They're probably best placed to answer that question themselves.

brianb (Kildare) - Posts: 189 - 23/05/2022 09:00:37    2419572

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If the McDonagh winner determines the province with the 6th team, everyone is treated the same and it's better for the integrity of the game. The GAA only make some changes as situations arise.
Firstly, Antrim are rightly favourites for the McDonagh. Should Kerry cause a shock, Tipperary and Kerry should both agree not to play the playoff.
Both Munster and Leinster could have 6;teams next year. Both 6th placed teams would have to be relegated. The '23 McDonagh winner promoted as 6th in their province. From then on, only one province should be allowed a 6th team. That 6th team being determined by the McDonagh winner.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 6792 - 23/05/2022 10:40:20    2419610

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Replying To legendzxix:  "If the McDonagh winner determines the province with the 6th team, everyone is treated the same and it's better for the integrity of the game. The GAA only make some changes as situations arise.
Firstly, Antrim are rightly favourites for the McDonagh. Should Kerry cause a shock, Tipperary and Kerry should both agree not to play the playoff.
Both Munster and Leinster could have 6;teams next year. Both 6th placed teams would have to be relegated. The '23 McDonagh winner promoted as 6th in their province. From then on, only one province should be allowed a 6th team. That 6th team being determined by the McDonagh winner."
I'd add that regardless of the result of the McDonagh cup final the GAA should decide how to handle a Kerry win. It might not happen this year but its likely to happen soon enough. A strong Kerry team winning the McDonagh cup for a couple of years in a row could block up the promotion / relegation part of the Championship.

brianb (Kildare) - Posts: 189 - 23/05/2022 17:01:54    2419829

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Replying To brianb:  "I'd add that regardless of the result of the McDonagh cup final the GAA should decide how to handle a Kerry win. It might not happen this year but its likely to happen soon enough. A strong Kerry team winning the McDonagh cup for a couple of years in a row could block up the promotion / relegation part of the Championship."
Agreed. This is where my solution solves everything. The McDonagh winner will always be promoted to their province. Whoever finishes 6th in the 6 team province will always be relegated. It treats everyone fairly.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 6792 - 24/05/2022 10:20:45    2419887

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