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Replying To kentuckytucky:  "I think New York should not be in the competition. The gaa should have an American championship which would accommodate them. This is a huge expense and eventually they will win a game and then what. More expense for someone to have to travel out there. Or otherwise have it that they play every county in Ireland moving around the provinces."
The Connacht Council can well afford the annual junket. An American championship would have to be funded for to be meaningful so funding the travel expenses of a New York team is hardly any big deal. There's lots of money in New York GAA circles anyhow... see how much we raised out there this year with minimal effort.

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 844 - 19/04/2022 13:58:11    2411570

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Teams that travels out makes a lot more money than the expense it is to travel out and i believe the Connacht GAA partly fund it.

On the game itself if was a very enjoyable and competitive contest that was well attended and in the balance right up to the final few minutes so well worth the 25 dollars entrance fee.

New Yorks defending was very good throughout and Sligo had to work hard for their scores. In the the likes of Carrabine, O'Connor and Murphy they have some excellent players that wouldn't look out of place in division 1 teams.

New York won the midfield battle hands down Ellis and Glynn superb with their high fielding and along with wing back O'Sullivan caused the Sligo defence a lot of problems with their direct play. Varley, N Madine, Fox was the three forwards that got the majority of the 15 scores, Varley apart from Shane Walsh, Comer is as good as any forward that Galway have however New York were too wasteful 2nd half and that proved costly in the end.

A long wait for New York before they play another game but at least its months away instead of a year. Sligo should be thankful they got a good competitive game under their belts and their issues shown up and can now be corrected before playing Roscommon. Winning by a huge margin is no use to any team moving forward.

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3347 - 19/04/2022 15:20:33    2411608

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Replying To Square_B:  "The Connacht Council can well afford the annual junket. An American championship would have to be funded for to be meaningful so funding the travel expenses of a New York team is hardly any big deal. There's lots of money in New York GAA circles anyhow... see how much we raised out there this year with minimal effort."
Wouldn't that money be better placed towards installing floodlights in Carrick, Sligo or Roscommon though? Perhaps there should be funding towards a North American championship. If they want to grow the game to Americans with little or no knowledge of gaelic games it would be a better option than the current set up

Leitrim_12 (USA) - Posts: 207 - 19/04/2022 15:23:04    2411611

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Replying To kentuckytucky:  "I think New York should not be in the competition. The gaa should have an American championship which would accommodate them. This is a huge expense and eventually they will win a game and then what. More expense for someone to have to travel out there. Or otherwise have it that they play every county in Ireland moving around the provinces."
Do you people ever sit back and do any research? There aren't enough clubs in America to sustain an American championship. Maybe Boston but that is it. Connacht counties won't give up the NY cash cow. Any money lost in travel is recouped by fundraising over there.

Rolo2010 (Donegal) - Posts: 739 - 19/04/2022 16:38:58    2411630

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Replying To Square_B:  "The Connacht Council can well afford the annual junket. An American championship would have to be funded for to be meaningful so funding the travel expenses of a New York team is hardly any big deal. There's lots of money in New York GAA circles anyhow... see how much we raised out there this year with minimal effort."
The only two cities with enough clubs are Boston and NY. USGAA already has national competitions for clubs but American champ isn't sustainable. I'd like to see an annual Boston v NY match. Any talk of removing NY must go along with alternative matches such as sending the All-Ireland champions out in both codes.

Rolo2010 (Donegal) - Posts: 739 - 19/04/2022 16:44:51    2411631

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Replying To kentuckytucky:  "Wouldn't that money be better placed towards installing floodlights in Carrick, Sligo or Roscommon though? Perhaps there should be funding towards a North American championship. If they want to grow the game to Americans with little or no knowledge of gaelic games it would be a better option than the current set up"
Sligo and Roscommon would have floodlights years ago but for protests from residents.

Yondu (UK) - Posts: 845 - 19/04/2022 17:01:49    2411635

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Replying To kentuckytucky:  "Wouldn't that money be better placed towards installing floodlights in Carrick, Sligo or Roscommon though? Perhaps there should be funding towards a North American championship. If they want to grow the game to Americans with little or no knowledge of gaelic games it would be a better option than the current set up"
In the grand scale of the GAA budget it's small beer and it's a small price to pay to keep the games alive stateside. The amount of investment needed to grow the game in America would be far beyond what the GAA could fund at the moment. Certainly there's an argument for advancing the hurling game stateside but as I've said, it's beyond the resources of the GAA at the minute. Anyhow, decent foodlights in Carrick would cost many multiples of 60k (which is roughly what it costs to send a team to NY).

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 844 - 19/04/2022 17:01:54    2411636

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Replying To kentuckytucky:  "Who pays for the team to go out? The tooth fairy? Will NY travel here for games? And that fundraising is money which could definitely be used by the local teams"
u must have cavan roots? your a bit obsessed with costs and money

Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 2844 - 19/04/2022 17:13:22    2411639

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I was under the impression that New York GAA had to pay for the costs of the travelling teams but got all of the gate receipts from their annual championship game?

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 20/04/2022 10:31:52    2411717

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Replying To Stmunnsriver:  "u must have cavan roots? your a bit obsessed with costs and money"
What do you mean by Cavan roots? Do you reckon an amateur organisation can spend money as it likes without any thought? Do you understand how a forum works? Bit of a silly post.

Leitrim_12 (USA) - Posts: 207 - 20/04/2022 10:36:41    2411722

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Average cost of a team going to New York is 100k, Connacht council stump up 50 or 60k, not sure which, County board finance the rest. Teams generally make alot of money while out there to off set expense

reffingmad (Roscommon) - Posts: 371 - 20/04/2022 14:19:05    2411833

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Replying To kentuckytucky:  "What do you mean by Cavan roots? Do you reckon an amateur organisation can spend money as it likes without any thought? Do you understand how a forum works? Bit of a silly post."
How can you be from Ireland and not know about Cavan people and being tight with money.

Rolo2010 (Donegal) - Posts: 739 - 20/04/2022 15:55:10    2411879

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Replying To Rolo2010:  "Do you people ever sit back and do any research? There aren't enough clubs in America to sustain an American championship. Maybe Boston but that is it. Connacht counties won't give up the NY cash cow. Any money lost in travel is recouped by fundraising over there."
exactly, theres clubs in all the major cities but some only have 1 or two clubs where it would be junior C standard, NY teams would wipe the floor with them due to better resources and more homegrown players mixed with imports.
be great if the smaller cities could compete with NY but like leitrim winning an ireland, it aint gonna happen and the gaa dont have the cash for a center of excellence type setup everywhere in the US

gaelsboy (Leitrim) - Posts: 460 - 21/04/2022 14:34:19    2412098

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Replying To Rolo2010:  "How can you be from Ireland and not know about Cavan people and being tight with money."
Theyre not as bad as the Scots in fairness

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1712 - 21/04/2022 15:49:41    2412118

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Replying To Rolo2010:  "How can you be from Ireland and not know about Cavan people and being tight with money."
They aren't tighter with money than Donegal people for example in my experience. It is just a lazy throwaway remark.

Leitrim_12 (USA) - Posts: 207 - 21/04/2022 19:56:28    2412163

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Replying To gaelsboy:  "exactly, theres clubs in all the major cities but some only have 1 or two clubs where it would be junior C standard, NY teams would wipe the floor with them due to better resources and more homegrown players mixed with imports.
be great if the smaller cities could compete with NY but like leitrim winning an ireland, it aint gonna happen and the gaa dont have the cash for a center of excellence type setup everywhere in the US"
We're talking a max of 4 games here from Connacht to Tailteann. So let's say 400k. NY can easily raise that through fundraising at home and in Ireland.

Rolo2010 (Donegal) - Posts: 739 - 21/04/2022 20:31:48    2412170

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Replying To Rolo2010:  "We're talking a max of 4 games here from Connacht to Tailteann. So let's say 400k. NY can easily raise that through fundraising at home and in Ireland."
I would honestly love to see NY or London make an impact on the Tailtean cup even at the expense of Leitrim if needs be, they had a raw deal of it with covid yet acquitted themselves well so far this year, and yes with the amount of irish and irish descendants in both cities there should not be a bother raising funds to run a county team as good as any other team in it. of course it needs to be invested right too and not wasted for a jollier/ get together for the old lads on the county boards

gaelsboy (Leitrim) - Posts: 460 - 22/04/2022 13:16:27    2412261

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Replying To kentuckytucky:  "They aren't tighter with money than Donegal people for example in my experience. It is just a lazy throwaway remark."
They are. A Donegal man will happily buy a pint for a friend.

Rolo2010 (Donegal) - Posts: 739 - 22/04/2022 16:51:10    2412328

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Replying To Yondu:  "Sligo and Roscommon would have floodlights years ago but for protests from residents."
Go away with your facts. How would yer man be able to justify his passion for removing New York from the championship without his flimsy reasoning for it to happen?

Tydavnet (Monaghan) - Posts: 16 - 30/04/2022 16:44:38    2414212

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Will this be the first time New York play a team outside of Connacht ?

brisbane (Galway) - Posts: 674 - 29/05/2022 19:41:54    2420858

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