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Saturday 9 April Christy Ring Cup round 1 London v Sligo, Ruislip, 2pm Sunday 10 April Christy Ring Cup round 1 Derry v Wicklow, Owenbeg, 1pm Mayo v Kildare, Ballina, 1pm Nickey Rackard Cup round 1 Fermanagh v Donegal, Brewster Park, 2pm Armagh v Roscommon, Athletic Grounds, 2pm Warwickshire v Tyrone, Pairc na hEireann, 12.30pm Lory Meagher Cup round 1 Lancashire v Louth, Abbotstown, 12pm Monaghan v Cavan, Inniskeen, 2pm Leitrim v Longford, Avant Money Páirc Seán Mac Diarmada, 2pm Kildare are the best team outside of the McCarthy Cup. (The McDonagh teams are a part of the McCarthy Cup.) The expectation will be for a Kildare v Derry final. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7869 - 05/04/2022 20:22:25 2409868 Link
In replying to myself, am I the PRO for these championships?! Hoganstand match report. Saturday 9 April Christy Ring Cup round 1 At Ruislip London 0-26 Sligo 0-21 London came from 9 points down at one stage to only trail by 5 at half time. The result puts early pressure on Sligo in the battle to retain Ring status. Today was London's first Ring match since 2019 due to covid travel restrictions in recent years. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7869 - 09/04/2022 17:25:02 2410389 Link
Why do Lancashire play their home games at Abbotstown? WestAwake88 (Galway) - Posts: 115 - 09/04/2022 20:29:19 2410410 Link
Sunday 10 April Christy Ring Cup round 1 At Celtic Park Derry 1-21 Wicklow 1-9 Christy Ring Cup round 1 At Ballina Kildare 5-26 Mayo 0-11 Nickey Rackard Cup round 1 At Pairc na hEireann Tyrone 7-18 Warwickshire 2-11 Nickey Rackard Cup round 1 At Maguiresbridge Donegal 1-21 Fermanagh 2-13 Nickey Rackard Cup round 1 At the Athletic Grounds Roscommon 5-19 Armagh 2-7 Lory Meagher Cup round 1 At Inniskeen Monaghan 3-9 Cavan 2-9 Lory Meagher Cup round 1 At Avant Money Páirc Seán Mac Diarmada Leitrim 4-9 Longford 0-20 Lory Meagher Cup round 1 At Abbotstown Louth 2-27 Lancashire 1-10 Hoganstand: Ring reports Rackard reports Meagher reports Kildare and Derry have gotten off to winning starts in the Ring. Kildare's massive win is an early indication that they are a step above Ring level. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7869 - 10/04/2022 18:07:11 2410456 Link
A couple of weeks ago Roscommon lost to Armagh in the League !! Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1436 - 10/04/2022 18:33:42 2410459 Link
Replying To Seanfanbocht: "A couple of weeks ago Roscommon lost to Armagh in the League !!" Bit of context needed on this Ros beat Armagh in the Round Robin stage of the league (in Armagh) Armagh beat Ros in the League semi-final (in Roscommon) Armagh had an extra match then (literally last weekend) ...and there's a bit of in-house fighting in their camp currently Good win for Ros all the same, not taking anything away from them TheWinningFormula (Tipperary) - Posts: 4 - 10/04/2022 21:40:10 2410473 Link
Replying To Seanfanbocht: "A couple of weeks ago Roscommon lost to Armagh in the League !!" They traded wins in the league Ros beat Armagh (in Armagh) in the Round Robin Armagh beat Ros (in Roscommon) in the semi-final I suppose Armagh had a tough final last week too then in between. Good win nonetheless TheWinningFormula (Tipperary) - Posts: 4 - 10/04/2022 21:43:30 2410474 Link
Replying To Seanfanbocht: "A couple of weeks ago Roscommon lost to Armagh in the League !!" 2 weeks ago in league semifinal. keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 11/04/2022 12:36:06 2410517 Link
GAA.ie lower tier round up. Derry and Kildare are the teams to watch in the race to get to McCarthy level. Is it fair to say that the Christy Ring is the official Tier 2? The McDonagh provides an All-Ireland path. It is more a Tier 1B? legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7869 - 12/04/2022 07:27:50 2410601 Link
Kildare and Derry appear to be a step above the rest. If Kildare and Derry were traditional hurling counties, the championship boundaries would be realigned so that they would be included in the McDonagh Cup. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7869 - 20/04/2022 07:08:05 2411680 Link
Replying To legendzxix: "Kildare and Derry appear to be a step above the rest. If Kildare and Derry were traditional hurling counties, the championship boundaries would be realigned so that they would be included in the McDonagh Cup." Derry always competed well in the Ulster championship when it was held and are joint second on the all time winners list with Down. They last won it in 2000 and 2001. Kildare have massive hurling numbers according to RTE in the same bracket as Wexford, Waterford and Clare apparently. They might not be traditional hurling counties but would definitely be on a par with half the Joe Mac counties in that respect. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12023 - 20/04/2022 10:10:39 2411703 Link
Replying To Viking66: "Derry always competed well in the Ulster championship when it was held and are joint second on the all time winners list with Down. They last won it in 2000 and 2001. Kildare have massive hurling numbers according to RTE in the same bracket as Wexford, Waterford and Clare apparently. They might not be traditional hurling counties but would definitely be on a par with half the Joe Mac counties in that respect." If the Leinster Championship had remained at 5 teams, Westmeath, Kildare and Derry, plus 1 more team would have a competitive 10 team McDonagh Cup. A 10 team McDonagh could have symmetry with the Top 10. The GAA need to review the Championship boundaries. A competitive McDonagh is important. Counties like Kildare and Derry should not be excluded when they are of reasonable standard. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7869 - 20/04/2022 12:35:02 2411775 Link
Replying To legendzxix: "If the Leinster Championship had remained at 5 teams, Westmeath, Kildare and Derry, plus 1 more team would have a competitive 10 team McDonagh Cup. A 10 team McDonagh could have symmetry with the Top 10. The GAA need to review the Championship boundaries. A competitive McDonagh is important. Counties like Kildare and Derry should not be excluded when they are of reasonable standard." Problem then would be that there would be a chasm between the Joe Mac and Christy Ring Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12023 - 20/04/2022 15:25:53 2411867 Link
Replying To Viking66: "Problem then would be that there would be a chasm between the Joe Mac and Christy Ring" Should that be holding back Kildare and Derry? 1 in 12 Division 1 teams are relegated. 1 in 11 provincial teams are relegated. The Joe McDonagh should have a ratio of 1 in 8 or 1 in 10 being relegated. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7869 - 20/04/2022 18:48:32 2411915 Link
Replying To legendzxix: "Should that be holding back Kildare and Derry? 1 in 12 Division 1 teams are relegated. 1 in 11 provincial teams are relegated. The Joe McDonagh should have a ratio of 1 in 8 or 1 in 10 being relegated." Yes but it's like the argument for reintroducing Div1a and Div1b. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12023 - 20/04/2022 20:39:08 2411941 Link
Replying To Viking66: "Yes but it's like the argument for reintroducing Div1a and Div1b." True, it is. Division 1 teams are catered for. McDonagh and Ring teams are not. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7869 - 21/04/2022 09:30:28 2411985 Link
Replying To legendzxix: "True, it is. Division 1 teams are catered for. McDonagh and Ring teams are not." If you structure the Joe Mac Cup the way you want to the Christy Ring winners will drop back down every year after. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12023 - 21/04/2022 11:57:13 2412051 Link
Replying To Viking66: "If you structure the Joe Mac Cup the way you want to the Christy Ring winners will drop back down every year after." Is that going to happen the McDonagh winners under the current championship boundaries? legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7869 - 21/04/2022 12:28:40 2412062 Link
Replying To legendzxix: "Is that going to happen the McDonagh winners under the current championship boundaries?" Not necessarily. That's why Leinster was increased to 6 teams. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12023 - 22/04/2022 07:51:03 2412184 Link
Replying To Viking66: "Not necessarily. That's why Leinster was increased to 6 teams." Laois and Westmeath will have a shootout to remain in Leinster. The McDonagh has increased to 6 as well from the original 5. When Leinster expanded to 6, some asked could it expand to 8. Antrim and Offaly are at a reasonable standard. Can they help expand Leinster to 8 in the next 3 to 5 years? It's unfair on Kerry or Meath to go to the Ring when Kildare and Derry should be added to the McDonagh. The McDonagh Cup feasibly could expand to 8 or 10. London could fit into the McDonagh, the 10th team probably would be the stretch. Would the 10th team benefit a year at McDonagh level? There is a format where 8 teams can play 4 teams, a team from 4 seeded brackets. After 4 rounds, 3rd to 6th can enter quarter-finals, 3rd and 4th at home. 1st and 2nd can have home advantage in the semi-finals. The bottom 2 teams would play out the relegation final. A relegation final could be played out over 2 games, giving each team a home game. This 8 group format would have the same timescale as the current 6 team format. Example; 1. Wexford, Kilkenny 2. Dublin, Galway 3. Westmeath, Laois 4. Offaly, Antrim. These 8 teams are listed in 4 seeded brackets. If all the teams listed on the left take on all the teams on the right, all teams will have taken on one team from each seeded bracket. The group table will consist of all 8 teams. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7869 - 22/04/2022 19:56:11 2412357 Link