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Replying To PK57:  "It's strange that TG4 aren't showing the Tailtean cup. Considering there are only 4 rounds in the competition and RTE have the semi's and finals, TG4 could have shown a few games in the competition. I'm actually surprised RTE are showing both semi finals, it at least means the competition will get some coverage but like most B competitions it will fizzle out in a few years when most teams don't buy into it."
TG4 don't hold rights and to the best of my knowledge have never held rights to show senior inter-county championship games. And say what you like about the Tailteann Cup, but it's still a senior inter-county championship.

Maybe whenever TV rights come up for grabs again, it'll be split out from the Sam Maguire championship, but in the meantime, that's how things stand.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2251 - 14/04/2022 14:19:32    2410995

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Replying To thebronze14:  "Are many people really in all honesty going to sit down and watch a Div4 game live? A few die hards maybe but they are more likely to be at the matches anyway. Oversaturation of coverage isn't a good thing either"
I always think this when I see posters bemoaning the lack of coverage of lower tier hurling and football despite they posters themselves having little to say about it.

It's rare that a thread even gets started about a lower tier hurling game, and even when it does, 95% of the posts aren't about the game itself but posters bemoaning the structures, complaining about a lack of coverage, saying there's no respect by the GAA etc. Any player or team specific comment is some bland cliché like "He'd make any team in Ireland" or "they do great work down there". There's rarely any discussion of the strengths or weaknesses of teams, the panels, past results, form etc. like people would expect of a Liam McCarthy game.

How can people make demands for massive coverage in these games when those making the demands don't even have much interest in the games?

CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1646 - 14/04/2022 19:16:11    2411049

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "TG4 don't hold rights and to the best of my knowledge have never held rights to show senior inter-county championship games. And say what you like about the Tailteann Cup, but it's still a senior inter-county championship.

Maybe whenever TV rights come up for grabs again, it'll be split out from the Sam Maguire championship, but in the meantime, that's how things stand."
I've heard this topic discussed on a few GAA podcasts and apparently the existing TV rights deal does not include the Tailtean Cup so presumably they could look to show it if they wished to. Overall the only way the competition will work is through promotion of the competition and buy in from the players. On the promotion side the GAA will treat it as an after thought, it would have been great if the final was a curtain raiser to the AI final instead of a semi final.

PK57 (Louth) - Posts: 1655 - 16/04/2022 11:56:42    2411086

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Replying To PK57:  "I've heard this topic discussed on a few GAA podcasts and apparently the existing TV rights deal does not include the Tailtean Cup so presumably they could look to show it if they wished to. Overall the only way the competition will work is through promotion of the competition and buy in from the players. On the promotion side the GAA will treat it as an after thought, it would have been great if the final was a curtain raiser to the AI final instead of a semi final."
Not much fun getting to a Final and each County getting 1,500 tickets!!
If the GAA knew anything about promoting games they'd have a "Finals weekend" with Minor, u20 and Tailteann on the Saturday with the Senior preceded by the new Junior on Sunday.
20 Euro adult tickets for the Saturday games and loads of complimentaries for kids attending with an adult.
The GAA generally don't do promotions very well.
How much publicity about the SHCs starting this weekend?
The last round of NFL had 13 or 14 games having a bearing on final positions, promotion, relegation etc.
Was crying out for all 4 D4 games at 2 Saturday, D3 games at 4 Saturday, D2 at 2 Sunday and D1 at 4 Sunday.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1433 - 16/04/2022 13:12:08    2411095

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RTE really are missing out not showing New York and London games. Would be a great way to kick off the Championship

brisbane (Galway) - Posts: 674 - 17/04/2022 21:20:56    2411430

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Replying To brisbane:  "RTE really are missing out not showing New York and London games. Would be a great way to kick off the Championship"
Unknown variables. The Munster Hurling Championship is box office.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7868 - 18/04/2022 08:40:51    2411446

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The amount of matchs on this Easter weekend was ludicrous. The GAA in their desire to get the championship " out of the way " had 5 hurling championship matchs and 3 football championship matchs crammed into the weekend not to mind Christy ring and Joe Mcdonagh matchs .
Minor and under 20 matchs then every night of the week to get them out of the way . The brain can't cope with all the matchs and results coming at the most interested of Gaels not to mind RTÉ .

OpenStand (Limerick) - Posts: 677 - 18/04/2022 08:51:09    2411447

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With a 6 month inter County "split season" you can't avoid having a load of games every weekend.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1433 - 19/04/2022 11:04:19    2411503

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Replying To OpenStand:  "The amount of matchs on this Easter weekend was ludicrous. The GAA in their desire to get the championship " out of the way " had 5 hurling championship matchs and 3 football championship matchs crammed into the weekend not to mind Christy ring and Joe Mcdonagh matchs .
Minor and under 20 matchs then every night of the week to get them out of the way . The brain can't cope with all the matchs and results coming at the most interested of Gaels not to mind RTÉ ."
The GAA have matches all squeezed in at once then teams that lose sit idle for a month waiting for the qualifiers/ Tailtean Cup, zero logic.

PK57 (Louth) - Posts: 1655 - 19/04/2022 11:11:15    2411508

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Replying To OpenStand:  "The amount of matchs on this Easter weekend was ludicrous. The GAA in their desire to get the championship " out of the way " had 5 hurling championship matchs and 3 football championship matchs crammed into the weekend not to mind Christy ring and Joe Mcdonagh matchs .
Minor and under 20 matchs then every night of the week to get them out of the way . The brain can't cope with all the matchs and results coming at the most interested of Gaels not to mind RTÉ ."
Munster GAA will have been very happy about the crowds for both games on Easter Sunday.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7868 - 19/04/2022 11:34:09    2411520

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All this talk about promoting the Tailteann Cup etc in media, pundits and ex players calling for it to be pushed and rightly so, but sure its already decided in terms of coverage.

The TV schedule released 2 weeks ago, so its already set no matter who pleads in media
RTE is showing the semi finals and final just, so out of 15 matches 3 will get covered, rest likely get 90 second clip on Sunday game.

Canavan and McGuinness made great cases last week on Sky about playing final before All Ireland, ironic though as Sky not showing any of the games.

The idea to schedule round 1 of the Tailteann cup on same weekend of the 4 provincial finals isn't going to help the competition receive any recognition as all media focus be on those finals. Surely with new competition a live game on TV be an obvious thing?

Don't see why the winners of Tailteann Cup couldn't be linked into a Round 2 Qualifier or preliminary Quarter Final, least be some motivation for players as doesn't look like their new competition will receive much attention!

Will there be an Official Launch by GAA of this new competition? What else are they going to do to promote it?

If this is how much tv going to cover competition in its inaugural year then you can be sure in 2023 be only final shown and it will dwindle down to the way the Nicky Rackard etc have went, which is a disgrace!

(Hope im wrong)

macca999 (Fermanagh) - Posts: 1098 - 22/04/2022 11:50:38    2412235

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Replying To macca999:  "All this talk about promoting the Tailteann Cup etc in media, pundits and ex players calling for it to be pushed and rightly so, but sure its already decided in terms of coverage.

The TV schedule released 2 weeks ago, so its already set no matter who pleads in media
RTE is showing the semi finals and final just, so out of 15 matches 3 will get covered, rest likely get 90 second clip on Sunday game.

Canavan and McGuinness made great cases last week on Sky about playing final before All Ireland, ironic though as Sky not showing any of the games.

The idea to schedule round 1 of the Tailteann cup on same weekend of the 4 provincial finals isn't going to help the competition receive any recognition as all media focus be on those finals. Surely with new competition a live game on TV be an obvious thing?

Don't see why the winners of Tailteann Cup couldn't be linked into a Round 2 Qualifier or preliminary Quarter Final, least be some motivation for players as doesn't look like their new competition will receive much attention!

Will there be an Official Launch by GAA of this new competition? What else are they going to do to promote it?

If this is how much tv going to cover competition in its inaugural year then you can be sure in 2023 be only final shown and it will dwindle down to the way the Nicky Rackard etc have went, which is a disgrace!

(Hope im wrong)"
Sadly you are not wrong. The GAA have been trying for the last number of years to consign majority of counties to the back burner just like in the hurling. There was major panic in munster that Cork would be relegated as they are labelled in the media as Kerry's main rival but this hasn't been the case for years; if Kerry have competition in Munster it is Clare but they don't fit the narrative. The GAA and the media are only interested in traditional counties even if some are no longer the power they were. The GAA and media are spinning this fairytale that the Tailteann cup will bridge the gap when in reality the only thing to bridge this gap is money but again the GAA will only invest in counties where they are guaranteed to get a return on their investment so that rules out weaker counties.

wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 1913 - 22/04/2022 14:01:59    2412278

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Some very good points here. I agree that splitting out the final round of League games across the divisions would have been a very good idea. Also, I agree totally that the amount of coverage/analysis given to the lower level counties is shocking. They're just afterthoughts. A Monday night programme focussing on Div 3 and 4/Tailteann Cup would be a great idea. Even if it didn't air till, say, 11 pm, at least it would be there, and such a late hour would be offset by being able to record it on your Sky/Vodafone/etc box or it being available on the RTE/TG4/Virgin Media/Sky/whatever player.

Tacaí Liatroma (Leitrim) - Posts: 1040 - 22/04/2022 15:52:01    2412318

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Maybe Wicklowmen should be asking why a County with 150,000 population struggles to be competitive with Leitrim, Longford, Fermanagh.....(33k, 40k, 35k Nationalist).
Why a County with 150k can't have better or similar standard teams than Ros (61k in Co Board area), Monaghan 61k, Cavan,65k etc.
Quit moaning about the Tailteann Cup, try and win it instead.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1433 - 22/04/2022 16:00:42    2412319

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Replying To wicklowsupport:  "Sadly you are not wrong. The GAA have been trying for the last number of years to consign majority of counties to the back burner just like in the hurling. There was major panic in munster that Cork would be relegated as they are labelled in the media as Kerry's main rival but this hasn't been the case for years; if Kerry have competition in Munster it is Clare but they don't fit the narrative. The GAA and the media are only interested in traditional counties even if some are no longer the power they were. The GAA and media are spinning this fairytale that the Tailteann cup will bridge the gap when in reality the only thing to bridge this gap is money but again the GAA will only invest in counties where they are guaranteed to get a return on their investment so that rules out weaker counties."
They shouldn't have had this competition this year. They should've just saved it for next year and the new 2 tier All Ireland with 16 teams each. As I've said plenty it's not a big deal that these games don't get shown. The players just want to play more matches and it can't be done in a meaningful way without tiering the competition. These teams get little recognition when in the main competition so it's not as if they're going from wall to wall coverage to nothing.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4236 - 22/04/2022 16:12:47    2412322

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The only way a competition like this works is if it's given promotion and coverage and I expect neither from the GAA. Why can't the GAA show at least one game a week in the opening two rounds on the GAA'S website and then RTE will have the semi's and final, that would at least give it some sort of coverage or even have a highlights show. Instead the GAA will pretend the competition doesn't exist and then you'll hear the patronising nonsense of how great it is for teams to get a run out in Croke Park in the later rounds. I don't see the difference between a competition like this and the Tommy Murphy/ B AI, and both of those fizzled out quickly.

PK57 (Louth) - Posts: 1655 - 22/04/2022 17:38:24    2412335

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Replying To PK57:  "The only way a competition like this works is if it's given promotion and coverage and I expect neither from the GAA. Why can't the GAA show at least one game a week in the opening two rounds on the GAA'S website and then RTE will have the semi's and final, that would at least give it some sort of coverage or even have a highlights show. Instead the GAA will pretend the competition doesn't exist and then you'll hear the patronising nonsense of how great it is for teams to get a run out in Croke Park in the later rounds. I don't see the difference between a competition like this and the Tommy Murphy/ B AI, and both of those fizzled out quickly."
NFL Divisions 3 and 4 get little coverage in the media but no one wants them abolished.
Same for Ring, Rackard, Meagher Cups.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1433 - 22/04/2022 20:35:29    2412365

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Replying To PK57:  "The only way a competition like this works is if it's given promotion and coverage and I expect neither from the GAA. Why can't the GAA show at least one game a week in the opening two rounds on the GAA'S website and then RTE will have the semi's and final, that would at least give it some sort of coverage or even have a highlights show. Instead the GAA will pretend the competition doesn't exist and then you'll hear the patronising nonsense of how great it is for teams to get a run out in Croke Park in the later rounds. I don't see the difference between a competition like this and the Tommy Murphy/ B AI, and both of those fizzled out quickly."
It'll take more than the GAA to increase the media profile for Tailteann Cup though. It's up to the teams involved to get their PR people involved, maybe get together and get it promoted further afield than streaming a a few games on GAAgo, YouTube and a few live games on TG4 and RTE. Not too far off comparing Sam and Tailteann with Premier League and Championship across the water. The Premier League is massive but the Championship gets fantastic coverage, in many ways it's a better competition. A lower standard but right up until the last few weeks teams are fighting for playoff spots. Arguably here the AFLW has a bigger profile than League divisions 3 and 4. LIDL smart sponsorship of the LGFA has helped their brand and raised the LGFA profile. It can't all be down to the GAA to push the Tailteann, Division 3 and 4 profiles. They need to market themselves too. Get out pushing themselves on local and national media, podcasts, social media. And if they get a sponsor like LIDL that can go out and build the profile of the competition that's even better. will help county teams to get better sponsorship deals too.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7359 - 22/04/2022 20:56:44    2412372

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Replying To Tacaí Liatroma:  "Some very good points here. I agree that splitting out the final round of League games across the divisions would have been a very good idea. Also, I agree totally that the amount of coverage/analysis given to the lower level counties is shocking. They're just afterthoughts. A Monday night programme focussing on Div 3 and 4/Tailteann Cup would be a great idea. Even if it didn't air till, say, 11 pm, at least it would be there, and such a late hour would be offset by being able to record it on your Sky/Vodafone/etc box or it being available on the RTE/TG4/Virgin Media/Sky/whatever player."
I have said for a long time there should be a Saturday night highlights programme. That way the Sunday Game night programme could be left for just the Sunday games.

johnocarroll17 (Limerick) - Posts: 408 - 22/04/2022 21:59:51    2412398

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Replying To PK57:  "The only way a competition like this works is if it's given promotion and coverage and I expect neither from the GAA. Why can't the GAA show at least one game a week in the opening two rounds on the GAA'S website and then RTE will have the semi's and final, that would at least give it some sort of coverage or even have a highlights show. Instead the GAA will pretend the competition doesn't exist and then you'll hear the patronising nonsense of how great it is for teams to get a run out in Croke Park in the later rounds. I don't see the difference between a competition like this and the Tommy Murphy/ B AI, and both of those fizzled out quickly."
Next season's Tailteann Cup has a real incentive attached to it.

Win to get a place in the Sam Maguire group stage. It's not fair to compare that 2 previous 2nd tier attempts.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4236 - 23/04/2022 08:37:08    2412412

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