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Interesting interview with Oisin McConvllle on BBC re Mayo ;)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0d1dddc

Vish (USA) - Posts: 88 - 21/09/2022 19:22:54    2441469

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Replying To Vish:  "Interesting interview with Oisin McConvllle on BBC re Mayo ;)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0d1dddc"
What do you make of that? Sounds a bit bitter that's he didn't get the opportunity to coach Mayo.

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3344 - 21/09/2022 20:27:31    2441478

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Replying To Gaa_lover:  "What do you make of that? Sounds a bit bitter that's he didn't get the opportunity to coach Mayo."
He seemed angry and hurt over it ,
Could understand if it was his native county Armagh , but his affiliation with Mayo isnt renowned so is a hard one to weigh up.

Vish (USA) - Posts: 88 - 21/09/2022 22:05:40    2441492

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Replying To Gaa_lover:  "What do you make of that? Sounds a bit bitter that's he didn't get the opportunity to coach Mayo."
Oisín would have been better off keeping quiet for now, any criticism will smack of sour grapes at the moment.

Not that I would ever discount the idea of the county board making a bags of any situation.

The proof will be in the pudding and McStay and his team deserves the chance to be judged on their merits.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 22/09/2022 08:19:59    2441497

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Replying To Gaa_lover:  "What do you make of that? Sounds a bit bitter that's he didn't get the opportunity to coach Mayo."
Very bitter,

reffingmad (Roscommon) - Posts: 371 - 22/09/2022 08:39:37    2441500

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I don't think he is being bitter. He has only echoed what many have said. I thought the exact same thing when I saw the backroom team McStay had but I am sure he can make it work. I wouldn't have minded Dempsey getting it as well as I like McConville and he is well thought of as a coach.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7887 - 22/09/2022 09:36:39    2441507

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I'd say one thing in his favour you usually get a lot of honesty out of him. Mad for the media bubble through a little too much at times.

seanie08 (Monaghan) - Posts: 1799 - 22/09/2022 10:28:01    2441516

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Replying To seanie08:  "I'd say one thing in his favour you usually get a lot of honesty out of him. Mad for the media bubble through a little too much at times."
He's on every podcast. RTE, Examiner, Second Captains, and the BBC. Will he continue when managing Wicklow?

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2763 - 22/09/2022 10:36:30    2441518

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Replying To FoolsGold:  "He's on every podcast. RTE, Examiner, Second Captains, and the BBC. Will he continue when managing Wicklow?"
Probably not until Wicklow are out of the championship. He's very good on any podcast he's contributing to. Will he be doing any coaching with Dundalk IT when he starts managing Wicklow though?

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7342 - 22/09/2022 13:50:40    2441553

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "Probably not until Wicklow are out of the championship. He's very good on any podcast he's contributing to. Will he be doing any coaching with Dundalk IT when he starts managing Wicklow though?"
He was managing Dundalk IT but stepped down when he got the Wicklow job,

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2763 - 22/09/2022 16:46:41    2441571

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Replying To Vish:  "He seemed angry and hurt over it ,
Could understand if it was his native county Armagh , but his affiliation with Mayo isnt renowned so is a hard one to weigh up."
In fairness to him, any time I've seen or heard him on the airwaves he always seemed well-disposed to Mayo, like he wanted us to finally get over the line, in fairly stark contrast to several habitués of The Sunday Game in particular.

It just seems a bit raw at the moment for him, who knows, he may get another crack at it somewhere down the line. His former team mate Tony McEntee seems to be fairly well-regarded locally anyway, as was John Morrison.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 23/09/2022 09:20:34    2441608

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I wouldn't see his comments as bitter, he is a very honest in his opinions, there's no bulls**t to him and if you have ever heard his life story you would know why, he has been through a lot in his personnel life and I think its why he is very honest and says it straight and not looking for attention.
I think Ray Dempsey is another honest, straight talking lad, and Oisin reckons thats exactly what Mayo need and he is probably not wrong.
Mcstays team is great on paper but it does look like theres too many chiefs.
But they have the job now so hopefully they can all work together and get the best out of players.

tommy132 (Mayo) - Posts: 601 - 23/09/2022 13:05:39    2441639

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Why do people think McStay has too many chiefs in the backroom team?

Ray Dempsey was going to have McConville, Declan O'Keeffe, Enda Gilvarry, Keith Higgins and James Burke. Kevin O'Neill and Terry Kennedy were also supposed to be involved.

If anything that's a bigger team than McStay.

MayoDan (Mayo) - Posts: 418 - 23/09/2022 16:34:21    2441665

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Replying To tommy132:  "I wouldn't see his comments as bitter, he is a very honest in his opinions, there's no bulls**t to him and if you have ever heard his life story you would know why, he has been through a lot in his personnel life and I think its why he is very honest and says it straight and not looking for attention.
I think Ray Dempsey is another honest, straight talking lad, and Oisin reckons thats exactly what Mayo need and he is probably not wrong.
Mcstays team is great on paper but it does look like theres too many chiefs.
But they have the job now so hopefully they can all work together and get the best out of players."
Simliar was done with us in regards to "Too many chiefs". when McStay was first appointed and he was given 3 years with an option of a 4th year. Now is given 4 years with Mayo?

After year one half of the management left including joint manager Fergal O'Donnell this time its Rochford the assistant manager but its seems like Fergal with us will share the load. Main guy McStay trusts is his brother in law McHale so will be interesting to see how many of the 4 years he'll have Rochford with him and indeed if he hangs around for the 4 years himself.

McStay jumped ship after 3 years with us and didn't take up the option of a 4th year. Bringing in the required coaches proved a difficult task with us that shouldn't be an issue with Mayo anyway. Buckley already on board a huge addition straight away.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3750 - 23/09/2022 17:48:37    2441669

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Garrymore and Mitchels drew in the championship today, seems like a cracker.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 25/09/2022 15:45:27    2441801

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Replying To MayoDan:  "Why do people think McStay has too many chiefs in the backroom team?

Ray Dempsey was going to have McConville, Declan O'Keeffe, Enda Gilvarry, Keith Higgins and James Burke. Kevin O'Neill and Terry Kennedy were also supposed to be involved.

If anything that's a bigger team than McStay."
Yes but most of those you name are Indians. As for McStay, Rochford is a previous Mayo Manager, Buckley is also a big name and McHale the brother in law is always part of McStay's team. It just seems that the balance in McStay's team isn't quite right and that there are too many big hitters on it. As Analyser said here, it didn't work in Roscommon where a joint Management team of Kevin McStay and Fergal O'Donnell broke down after 1 year.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2160 - 25/09/2022 16:34:18    2441803

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Replying To endgame:  "Yes but most of those you name are Indians. As for McStay, Rochford is a previous Mayo Manager, Buckley is also a big name and McHale the brother in law is always part of McStay's team. It just seems that the balance in McStay's team isn't quite right and that there are too many big hitters on it. As Analyser said here, it didn't work in Roscommon where a joint Management team of Kevin McStay and Fergal O'Donnell broke down after 1 year."
Unlike Roscommon, this is not a joint management team. McStay is the number 1.

Rochford did manage Mayo but he spent the last 4 years as a number 2 in Donegal. Buckley has never been a manager, always a coach. Liam McHale has always been a coach with McStay, why would there be an issue this time? Don't know much about Mulligan, but I can't see him being a big disrupting influence.

Oisín McConville is a bigger personality than anyone on McStay's team. I could definitely see him walking from a management mid season if things weren't being done his way. Burke was the number 2 under Horan so would want a significant input. Gilvarry managed Mayo to a minor all Ireland and been over Ballina and Ballintubber in recent years. No experience of being a selector. Keith Higgins has no experience whatsoever aside from playing.

Just don't see what the big issue is with McStay's backroom team.

MayoDan (Mayo) - Posts: 418 - 25/09/2022 17:54:21    2441816

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Replying To MayoDan:  "Unlike Roscommon, this is not a joint management team. McStay is the number 1.

Rochford did manage Mayo but he spent the last 4 years as a number 2 in Donegal. Buckley has never been a manager, always a coach. Liam McHale has always been a coach with McStay, why would there be an issue this time? Don't know much about Mulligan, but I can't see him being a big disrupting influence.

Oisín McConville is a bigger personality than anyone on McStay's team. I could definitely see him walking from a management mid season if things weren't being done his way. Burke was the number 2 under Horan so would want a significant input. Gilvarry managed Mayo to a minor all Ireland and been over Ballina and Ballintubber in recent years. No experience of being a selector. Keith Higgins has no experience whatsoever aside from playing.

Just don't see what the big issue is with McStay's backroom team."
Sure the more expeienced coaches in the backroom team the better. It's up to McStay's managerial skills to divide the coaching workload and delegate. From link below Mulligan will serve as club liaison and McHale is liaison to the Mayo U20 team. Liaison is a bit of a vague term for me. Is Mulligan keeping in touch with squad fringe players keeping them on track with the S&C requirements, is he scouting new prospects? Is Liam McHale doing something similar with U20s who look good prospects for senior callups or spotting emerging talent in the U20s and working to bring them to senior standard? Anyways, it's exciting times. We won't climb the hill for a while yet, maybe never, but it's good to be looking forward to see what this management team can bring.

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GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7342 - 26/09/2022 09:34:27    2441869

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Apparently TG4 be showing the Castlebar v. Knockmore and Breaffy v. Ballintubber double header live from MacHale Park, next Sunday.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 26/09/2022 10:04:35    2441877

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Replying To Gleebo:  "Apparently TG4 be showing the Castlebar v. Knockmore and Breaffy v. Ballintubber double header live from MacHale Park, next Sunday."
They are and mayo gaa tv has Ballina vs Claremorris on at 12 Sunday, so you would get 3 good games in a row which is great..

tommy132 (Mayo) - Posts: 601 - 26/09/2022 14:35:49    2441935

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