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Replying To Rockies: "Boyle sports GAA. Outright all Ireland hurling winners odds. Limerick 8/15. Waterford/Galway 8/1. Cork 10/1. Looks like a one horse race...Limerick at a canter!" Think we have a decent chance of retaining All Ireland but the odds are crazy short and don't reflect reality Shocs07 (Limerick) - Posts: 372 - 16/01/2022 11:14:14 2395129 Link
Replying To Shocs07: "Think we have a decent chance of retaining All Ireland but the odds are crazy short and don't reflect reality" I have no problem with the odds as Limerick have no major injuries or retirees that I'm aware of. I don't know what to expect from Galway. Waterford and Kilkenny should be solid. Tipp are rebuilding I believe. Clare and Wexford and Dublin, etc will have nice teams I'd say, but no real threat to Limerick. I don't think Cork will close the gap either. Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2113 - 16/01/2022 12:20:21 2395138 Link
Trump those odds are off the wall..limerick will be missing 2 Casey's and Barry Murphy,all out with serious knee injuries..really looking forward to Galway and Henry coming to limerick,if restrictions are lifted there will be a huge crowd.. CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2206 - 16/01/2022 17:47:37 2395182 Link
The format does give a bit of leeway for most teams as relegation is almost certainly going to one of Laois, Offaly and Antrim. Clare probably had to bring Kelly and a few other lads back sooner than intended last year after a disastrous start. Then it was nearly straight into the championship. Will depend then on what the rest want to get out of it. Looking at Galway today, I'd say Henry will use it to give as many a run as he can and without having to worry about going down. Dublin look like they're going to be out of traps fast so should have some good contests in our section. Interesting that Kenny and another of the managers whose name escapes me referred to last year not having given teams the chance to try out new players and approaches as they were straight into the business end with no pre-season. Should be interesting series. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2521 - 16/01/2022 18:45:57 2395192 Link
I think limerick are ahead of us all. That being said, they're beatable. My best hope as a wexford man is that Galway beat limerick and take them out of the way. I wouldn't fear anybody else on our best day. Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 2625 - 17/01/2022 12:52:54 2395282 Link
Replying To Doylerwex: "I think limerick are ahead of us all. That being said, they're beatable. My best hope as a wexford man is that Galway beat limerick and take them out of the way. I wouldn't fear anybody else on our best day." That is also my best hope! Galway are so unpredictable and can beat anyone on a given day. Beat Limerick in a quarter final, with no backdoor Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 17/01/2022 13:37:37 2395296 Link
Replying To Rockies: "That is also my best hope! Galway are so unpredictable and can beat anyone on a given day. Beat Limerick in a quarter final, with no backdoor" Will have to be semifinals most likely! Seriously, teams will have to target Limerick... paint a big bullseye. The days of standing back, and admiring Limerick hurling is over! Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 17/01/2022 13:57:09 2395303 Link
Replying To CTGAA10: "Trump those odds are off the wall..limerick will be missing 2 Casey's and Barry Murphy,all out with serious knee injuries..really looking forward to Galway and Henry coming to limerick,if restrictions are lifted there will be a huge crowd.." Agree on this, Peter Casey is a massive loss and there is no obvious candidate to replace him as things stands and we are a weaker team without him. He offers something a bit different than some of the other more powerful forwards and will always get you scores from play. If Limerick were to lose both Gillane and Flanagan at the same time there would be serious challenges to overcome to the entire gameplan. There is a starting place up for grabs for anyone who has the guts and determination to take it. The likes of Cathal O'Neill or Pat Ryan will hopefully be pushing hard to make the starting championship team this year. Looking at it now I would see Waterford as one of the teams who could really challenge this year but who knows. Fitzy01 (Limerick) - Posts: 384 - 17/01/2022 16:19:27 2395340 Link
Replying To Fitzy01: "Agree on this, Peter Casey is a massive loss and there is no obvious candidate to replace him as things stands and we are a weaker team without him. He offers something a bit different than some of the other more powerful forwards and will always get you scores from play. If Limerick were to lose both Gillane and Flanagan at the same time there would be serious challenges to overcome to the entire gameplan. There is a starting place up for grabs for anyone who has the guts and determination to take it. The likes of Cathal O'Neill or Pat Ryan will hopefully be pushing hard to make the starting championship team this year. Looking at it now I would see Waterford as one of the teams who could really challenge this year but who knows." Waterford looked well beaten by Limerick in last year's semifinal. Maybe if they targeted some of the Limerick players like they targeted Joe Canning, they might do better! Austin Gleeson was hitting ball into the limerick square with no Waterford forwards there. They were beaten before they started... maybe Jim McGuinness might give self belief! Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 17/01/2022 16:50:06 2395349 Link
Replying To Fitzy01: "Agree on this, Peter Casey is a massive loss and there is no obvious candidate to replace him as things stands and we are a weaker team without him. He offers something a bit different than some of the other more powerful forwards and will always get you scores from play. If Limerick were to lose both Gillane and Flanagan at the same time there would be serious challenges to overcome to the entire gameplan. There is a starting place up for grabs for anyone who has the guts and determination to take it. The likes of Cathal O'Neill or Pat Ryan will hopefully be pushing hard to make the starting championship team this year. Looking at it now I would see Waterford as one of the teams who could really challenge this year but who knows." 100%. I see Waterford being Limericks biggest challenger. It's hard to see Galway challenge this year. They are a fair bit back. Youd never know ,they seem to have one bigatch a year. Don't forget the 2 times this limerick team played them ...Galway were well beaten everywhere but the scoreboard. Kilkenny could possibly put it up to Limerick but I'd say Limerick would be gunning for them. Clare would be my dark horse. They've the makings of a good team if everyone stays fit. bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 17/01/2022 21:16:50 2395376 Link
Rockies wants a big target on limerick and belief in Waterford..bring on the target,we don't mind in limerick,we want to annoy the likes of cork and stay on top for as long as possible..ye need to toughen up big time at the back,pick players in best positions and let them hurl..ye have great underage teams but I think unless a change of manager ye going no where.. CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2206 - 18/01/2022 09:39:02 2395386 Link
Replying To CTGAA10: "Rockies wants a big target on limerick and belief in Waterford..bring on the target,we don't mind in limerick,we want to annoy the likes of cork and stay on top for as long as possible..ye need to toughen up big time at the back,pick players in best positions and let them hurl..ye have great underage teams but I think unless a change of manager ye going no where.." In 2018 Cork went toe to toe with Limerick in a complete open contest which turned into one of the biggest straight shootouts in championship history with Limerick just shading it creating more scoring chances and having the stronger panel. Roll forward to 2021 and they go toe to toe again but are destroyed all over the field as Limerick evolved and developed into a better team. The extreme confidence of the Cork, who are without a doubt a fantastic team, can be a strength but in this case, it proved a massive weakness as they felt they didn't need to adapt their gameplan to take down Limerick. Limerick did slightly change tactic in the final in that many of the balls played long went straight down the channels rather than the more usual diagonals, whether or not that was a deliberate ploy by Kinnerk and co I don't know. I think the humbling defeat they got could reset the mindset a little which could help things for them and the motivation and hunger to take Limerick down this year will be massive for all teams, but especially for Cork imo as I'm sure losing to Limerick as opposed to a Tipp or KK hurts them deeply. Fitzy01 (Limerick) - Posts: 384 - 18/01/2022 10:52:44 2395405 Link
Replying To CTGAA10: "Rockies wants a big target on limerick and belief in Waterford..bring on the target,we don't mind in limerick,we want to annoy the likes of cork and stay on top for as long as possible..ye need to toughen up big time at the back,pick players in best positions and let them hurl..ye have great underage teams but I think unless a change of manager ye going no where.." Yes, every team needs to play Limerick like it's a war! Last year's all Ireland was too easy for limerick... nobody needs one sided competition like that. I do think Ben O' Connor will be Cork manager sooner rather than later, but we won't be challenging this year! Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 18/01/2022 11:06:37 2395406 Link
Replying To daveboy: "A team raises the bar. The rest respond. The game gets better. Been happening for 90 years. Embrace these great times. Hurling has never been better." Limerick are a good bit ahead right now if they avoid any injuries, Peter Casey is a big loss but looking at their second 15 last Sunday its a bit worrying for everyone else who ever does topple them will have to match their physicality as well as there hurling a big order indeed. i would respectfully disagree that Hurling has never been better I thing the 90's were, because as well as the big 3 you had Clare/Wexford/Offaly/Limerick all were at the top table Should be a good outing for both Clare/Limerick next Sunday in Ennis both wont be at full strength but there is usually a bit of cut when both sides meet. clooney (Clare) - Posts: 878 - 18/01/2022 11:24:42 2395409 Link
Replying To Fitzy01: "In 2018 Cork went toe to toe with Limerick in a complete open contest which turned into one of the biggest straight shootouts in championship history with Limerick just shading it creating more scoring chances and having the stronger panel. Roll forward to 2021 and they go toe to toe again but are destroyed all over the field as Limerick evolved and developed into a better team. The extreme confidence of the Cork, who are without a doubt a fantastic team, can be a strength but in this case, it proved a massive weakness as they felt they didn't need to adapt their gameplan to take down Limerick. Limerick did slightly change tactic in the final in that many of the balls played long went straight down the channels rather than the more usual diagonals, whether or not that was a deliberate ploy by Kinnerk and co I don't know. I think the humbling defeat they got could reset the mindset a little which could help things for them and the motivation and hunger to take Limerick down this year will be massive for all teams, but especially for Cork imo as I'm sure losing to Limerick as opposed to a Tipp or KK hurts them deeply." Which brings us back to Limerick being unbackable favourites for this year's all Ireland. Absolutely no competition! Not a team in sight, bar Galway who are capable of beating anyone on their day! A bit like France in rugby! The bookies have done their homework and the odds reflect that! Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 18/01/2022 12:21:25 2395430 Link
I would compare the current Limerick team with the Kilkenny team of a few years ago. Soon we'll be talking about the "Drive for five" . Big difference is back then a resurgent Tipp provided stern competition... and players like Lar Corbett and the Maher's were around. No competition of this sort is on horizon... Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 18/01/2022 13:38:27 2395440 Link
Replying To Rockies: "Which brings us back to Limerick being unbackable favourites for this year's all Ireland. Absolutely no competition! Not a team in sight, bar Galway who are capable of beating anyone on their day! A bit like France in rugby! The bookies have done their homework and the odds reflect that!" "Not a team in sight, bar Galway who are capable of beating anyone on their day!" I don't understand this. In what way are Galway different or better than Cork, Tipp, Waterford or Kilkenny; in 'beating anyone on their day'? Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2446 - 18/01/2022 14:00:23 2395447 Link
It is difficult to see a past this brilliant Limerick team. They deserve to write themselves into the history books. However they are smart enough not to get sucked into too much hype and also know that everyone is gunning for them. It is difficult to know how much better we will be this year, as it is every year and also for the rest of the chasing pack. However I believe mentally Waterford are better positioned than ever. Not too much expected and not going in on a prayer and a wing hoping for a break as opposed to being prepared to make it happen. Time will tell if that transfer into results. One thing for sure the days of just pulling on the hear strings are long gone. Replaced by a realistic assessment of the challenge and a steely resolve to get it done. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2655 - 18/01/2022 14:29:44 2395450 Link
Replying To Cockney_Cat: ""Not a team in sight, bar Galway who are capable of beating anyone on their day!" I don't understand this. In what way are Galway different or better than Cork, Tipp, Waterford or Kilkenny; in 'beating anyone on their day'?" Completely unpredictable team, and have been for a long time! They have physically imposing and some superbly talented individuals. They overwhelmed Cork last year in league, then underperformed inexplicably in Leinster. Maybe Henry can address that, but would be easier with a Joe Canning in his arsenal! I am optimistic that Joe will make a comeback Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 18/01/2022 14:51:19 2395454 Link
I find Limerick posters funny HA Ha. . When they are told how good and how the bookies have the odds right, they will disagree. Conversely, when the slightest hint of competition is suggested to them, they will tell you how superior they are! A strange bunch, I guess it comes from an inferiority complex by being in the doldrums so long! Every Limerick person is a hurling guru at moment... don't forget Mick Mackey's Limerick dominated hurling between 1933 and 1940 . We're heading into that territory again! Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 18/01/2022 15:12:32 2395458 Link