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Ballygunner Vs Kilmallock

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Great display by Ballygunner! Nice seeing them win, and never expected such dominance.

Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 09/01/2022 16:32:45    2394233

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Great performance from them and well done..the all ireland semi will be interesting being played in Parnell will suit slaughtneil and they will bring huge physicality and intensity.it points to a ballyhale/gunner final and I'd say that's what the majority of neutral hurling people want to see..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2217 - 09/01/2022 17:09:24    2394243

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Replying To CTGAA10:  "Great performance from them and well done..the all ireland semi will be interesting being played in Parnell will suit slaughtneil and they will bring huge physicality and intensity.it points to a ballyhale/gunner final and I'd say that's what the majority of neutral hurling people want to see.."
I said on other forms that Ballygunner had as equal a chance of winning today as Kilmallock and I was mocked almost, "did you see Kilmallock against Midleton?" etc. was said.."did ye see Ballygunner play ?" I said..".no but they arent as good as Kilmalloc"k was the reply..Ballygunner are always a good side, and have been unlucky over the years not to do better, look at the players they have, and how anyone could "assume" kilmallock would win today was not acknowledging Ballygunner..hard luck to KIlmallock, a team I also like as I do all Limerick hurling, but no one will begrudge Ballygunner today and wouldnt it be great if they went on to win it..a tough ask, but they wont be far away...

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 09/01/2022 21:26:46    2394312

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Replying To Fairplayalways:  "I said on other forms that Ballygunner had as equal a chance of winning today as Kilmallock and I was mocked almost, "did you see Kilmallock against Midleton?" etc. was said.."did ye see Ballygunner play ?" I said..".no but they arent as good as Kilmalloc"k was the reply..Ballygunner are always a good side, and have been unlucky over the years not to do better, look at the players they have, and how anyone could "assume" kilmallock would win today was not acknowledging Ballygunner..hard luck to KIlmallock, a team I also like as I do all Limerick hurling, but no one will begrudge Ballygunner today and wouldnt it be great if they went on to win it..a tough ask, but they wont be far away..."
What was the odds on this one? I would have guessed Ballygunner were warm favs

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 10/01/2022 08:31:46    2394322

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Replying To Fairplayalways:  "I said on other forms that Ballygunner had as equal a chance of winning today as Kilmallock and I was mocked almost, "did you see Kilmallock against Midleton?" etc. was said.."did ye see Ballygunner play ?" I said..".no but they arent as good as Kilmalloc"k was the reply..Ballygunner are always a good side, and have been unlucky over the years not to do better, look at the players they have, and how anyone could "assume" kilmallock would win today was not acknowledging Ballygunner..hard luck to KIlmallock, a team I also like as I do all Limerick hurling, but no one will begrudge Ballygunner today and wouldnt it be great if they went on to win it..a tough ask, but they wont be far away..."
Ballygunner were 4/6. so you are not knocking about with hurling savants!

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2557 - 10/01/2022 09:09:00    2394324

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Despite begin out gunned KIlmallock played it out fairly to the end with no nastiness. Kudos to them. A good pitch always helps the skilled and fit players. Ballygunner has had in Gerry Fitzpatrick the best physical fitness trainer in the country before it even became fashionable or other names popped up. Now his daughter has joined in.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2660 - 10/01/2022 15:27:24    2394416

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Replying To Canuck:  "Despite begin out gunned KIlmallock played it out fairly to the end with no nastiness. Kudos to them. A good pitch always helps the skilled and fit players. Ballygunner has had in Gerry Fitzpatrick the best physical fitness trainer in the country before it even became fashionable or other names popped up. Now his daughter has joined in."
Thanks Canuck. I wish Ballugunner all the best in the next round(s) of the competition. I have always found Waterford people to be great hurling followers and sports people to their finger tips.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4321 - 10/01/2022 17:40:05    2394447

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Ballygunner gave a fierce impressive performance on Sunday to defeat Kilmallock comprehensively. Well done to the Deise men who were superb all over the pitch and for most of the game as well. Kilmallock opened brightly but Ballygunner were fast and furious in the tackle and cutting down space.
Kilmallock had no answer and the concession of an early goal was the first nail in the coffin.
Dessie Hutchinson looks almost unmarkabke such is his pace touch and his finishing off either side.
They will take beating but especially if they perform to that level again.

carlowman (Carlow) - Posts: 1821 - 11/01/2022 14:08:49    2394527

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Thanks Canuck. I wish Ballugunner all the best in the next round(s) of the competition. I have always found Waterford people to be great hurling followers and sports people to their finger tips."
It would be nice to see them go on now and win the All Ireland

Shocs07 (Limerick) - Posts: 372 - 13/01/2022 09:57:54    2394694

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Well played Ballygunnar, they are a fantastic team and I hope they go on and win it out.

I would have thought Kilmallock would be very disappointed with that performance as they were well beaten all over the field and Ballygunnar didn't have to break a sweat to beat them.

When you hear soundbites from some of their more experienced players before the match saying "we won the Limerick championship.... anything else is a bonus...." you know you will never beat a team as good as Ballygunnar, you have half conceded before taking the field and sends out the wrong message to your teammates.

Fitzy01 (Limerick) - Posts: 387 - 14/01/2022 10:53:37    2394848

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Replying To Fitzy01:  "Well played Ballygunnar, they are a fantastic team and I hope they go on and win it out.

I would have thought Kilmallock would be very disappointed with that performance as they were well beaten all over the field and Ballygunnar didn't have to break a sweat to beat them.

When you hear soundbites from some of their more experienced players before the match saying "we won the Limerick championship.... anything else is a bonus...." you know you will never beat a team as good as Ballygunnar, you have half conceded before taking the field and sends out the wrong message to your teammates."
The success of the Limerick intercounty team has masked over the poorness of the Limerick club championship in recent years. For the last 5 years running the same 4 teams have been in the semi finals. And you can dress this up and down all you want but having the same 4 teams in the semifinals year after year after year is not good. And in those 5 years - the county winners have done nothing in the Munster or All-Ireland series.

johnocarroll17 (Limerick) - Posts: 408 - 14/01/2022 14:45:42    2394899

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Replying To johnocarroll17:  "The success of the Limerick intercounty team has masked over the poorness of the Limerick club championship in recent years. For the last 5 years running the same 4 teams have been in the semi finals. And you can dress this up and down all you want but having the same 4 teams in the semifinals year after year after year is not good. And in those 5 years - the county winners have done nothing in the Munster or All-Ireland series."
How bad is the Waterford championship if the same team has won it 8 years in a row?

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 643 - 14/01/2022 15:06:25    2394903

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Ballygunner are a bit of an anomaly. I remember when the were a poor junior team we used to beat up on. Then Mr Mcglin (RIP) arrived in the little school house. He was dedicated in getting the kids going. The city spilled out into the village and playing numbers increased. However that alone did not do it. They produced and continue to produce leaders on and off the field and a professional organization. I believe they are blessed with the best physical trainer in the country in Gerry Fitzpatrick.
It is scary when you see what they have coming. Paddy Fitzgearld scored 1-11 in the Harty this week. Two years ago they were close to having a second team in the senior championship. De La Salle college is like a nursery for them with Derek McGrath, Kevin Moran and Dooley influence. They play the same way from 10 years with emphasis on development skills.
It is said their dominance is bad for Waterford hurling. I don't agree the biggest challenge they got this year was in Waterford.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2660 - 14/01/2022 15:13:19    2394905

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Replying To johnocarroll17:  "The success of the Limerick intercounty team has masked over the poorness of the Limerick club championship in recent years. For the last 5 years running the same 4 teams have been in the semi finals. And you can dress this up and down all you want but having the same 4 teams in the semifinals year after year after year is not good. And in those 5 years - the county winners have done nothing in the Munster or All-Ireland series."
It would be similar enough down in Kilkenny to be honest.

You'd nearly always have the big 3 of Ballyhale, James Stephens, O Loughlin Gaels in the semis and then maybe one of Dicksboro, Bennettsbriddge or Clara.

Kilkenny club hurling is usually very strong and every match is hard to win at all 3 grades so the winners of Kilkenny championships are usually well primed for the all
Ireland club series.

Past hurler (None) - Posts: 727 - 14/01/2022 15:29:41    2394909

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Replying To countyman2022:  "How bad is the Waterford championship if the same team has won it 8 years in a row?"
Good question.

johnocarroll17 (Limerick) - Posts: 408 - 14/01/2022 17:54:34    2394928

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Replying To johnocarroll17:  "The success of the Limerick intercounty team has masked over the poorness of the Limerick club championship in recent years. For the last 5 years running the same 4 teams have been in the semi finals. And you can dress this up and down all you want but having the same 4 teams in the semifinals year after year after year is not good. And in those 5 years - the county winners have done nothing in the Munster or All-Ireland series."
Well Na Piarsaigh won the All Ireland in '16 and were in the All Ireland Final in '18, when they were narrowly beaten by Cuala in a replay, and Limerick teams contested two other Munster finals in '19 and '21. The competition was not contested last year when Na Piarsaigh looked very strong, where they were riddled with injuries this year.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4321 - 14/01/2022 19:14:53    2394937

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Replying To johnocarroll17:  "The success of the Limerick intercounty team has masked over the poorness of the Limerick club championship in recent years. For the last 5 years running the same 4 teams have been in the semi finals. And you can dress this up and down all you want but having the same 4 teams in the semifinals year after year after year is not good. And in those 5 years - the county winners have done nothing in the Munster or All-Ireland series."
Sure it's the same in almost all strong hurling counties that don't do divisional teams; same 4-5 each year in the semi's. And it's been like that in Limerick hurling for the past forty years or so. At stages it was just the same 2-3 teams. Limerick hurling is better now that Adare is strong, and NAP, and Doon. For years, it was just The Well, Kilmallock and Claughaun (Ahane if you really wanna go back in time). It's also good that both Liberties and Ballybrown are quite strong again. Ahane are still competitive. Add in that Kildimo and Monaleen are as strong now as they've ever really been, and you've quite a healthy club scene in Limerick.

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1914 - 14/01/2022 20:23:38    2394954

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Well Na Piarsaigh won the All Ireland in '16 and were in the All Ireland Final in '18, when they were narrowly beaten by Cuala in a replay, and Limerick teams contested two other Munster finals in '19 and '21. The competition was not contested last year when Na Piarsaigh looked very strong, where they were riddled with injuries this year."
Na Piarsaigh aside - the other Limerick clubs haven't done much.

johnocarroll17 (Limerick) - Posts: 408 - 14/01/2022 21:33:13    2394969

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Well Na Piarsaigh won the All Ireland in '16 and were in the All Ireland Final in '18, when they were narrowly beaten by Cuala in a replay, and Limerick teams contested two other Munster finals in '19 and '21. The competition was not contested last year when Na Piarsaigh looked very strong, where they were riddled with injuries this year."
Na Piarsaigh won in 2016 which was 6 years ago. And in 2019 and 2021 the Limerick champions beat Cork opposition to reach the Munster final. And the Cork championship is worse than the Limerick championship ....

johnocarroll17 (Limerick) - Posts: 408 - 14/01/2022 21:35:32    2394970

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Often clubs in many counties, a family comes along and provide the back bone of a team. Ballysaggart a parish of 300 people came from junior to senior with the Bennetts and were unlucky to be relegated this year. Beaten twice in added on time. No disrespect to them but when this era is over will probably be junior again. Ballyduff Upper were a force when the three Walsh brothers were in their prime. Back before that Portlaw with the four Whelan brothers. Of course it only works if they are good enough to be on the team.
Ballygunner with the Mahonys and Sullivans related to each other make half the team. They also have that structure that is ready to replace those dropping out. If you look at just some of the players just gone. Most clubs would be down for awhile. Brian and David O'Sullivan. Wayne and J.J. Hutchison and others. They will be beaten in Waterford some day on a bad one for them or a team comes and matches them. They had a few scares this year in the early rounds.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2660 - 15/01/2022 15:07:37    2395040

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