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Monaghan with a big half time lead...smart money is on Donegal then...

moodoo (Monaghan) - Posts: 464 - 13/03/2022 14:33:07    2405135

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Gutsy performance today well done to all involved

prideof85 (Monaghan) - Posts: 851 - 13/03/2022 15:32:09    2405138

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Serious display. Only critism. It should have been more. Keyboard warriors can complain about the price of diesel till next weekend

latefortraining (Monaghan) - Posts: 127 - 13/03/2022 15:33:21    2405139

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Really well played from Monaghan today. That was a pressure game and I'm sure a lot of the criticism of the team hadn't gone unnoticed by the players many of whom read this thread. Be great to see us push on against Kildare and Dublin next. That would mean 5 games out of 7 unbeaten. A far cry from a lot of the negativity said about the team. Onwards and upwards.

SoNearYetSoFarney (Monaghan) - Posts: 58 - 13/03/2022 15:41:32    2405144

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Amazing what happens when you pick players in their best positions. Including the keeper.

Eddie the Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 1230 - 13/03/2022 17:15:23    2405191

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Replying To SoNearYetSoFarney:  "Really well played from Monaghan today. That was a pressure game and I'm sure a lot of the criticism of the team hadn't gone unnoticed by the players many of whom read this thread. Be great to see us push on against Kildare and Dublin next. That would mean 5 games out of 7 unbeaten. A far cry from a lot of the negativity said about the team. Onwards and upwards."
Another, perhaps more accurate way to look at our run is the following:

We have won 1 game out of 5

We have won 4 games out of 16 in the league under current manager

We have won 6 games out of 19 in both League & Championship under current manager

That's the facts, unfortunately. Sooner we take a step back and realise the return/long term damage this man will have had for us the sooner the Co. Board might act.

Blueblood4life (Monaghan) - Posts: 200 - 13/03/2022 17:59:21    2405211

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Good to see the team get back to winning ways in the league. In the main we have been a very hard team to beat, without winning. Today was our first 2 points won in 11 attempts in the league, since way back in February 2020. Only the deluded sheep would not be starting to ask questions

It was a decent performance today that came with the caveat of a dire Donegal performance. Last week I said they would be no pushover at home, however I was wrong, that was the worst Donegal performance I've seen since before the Mc Guinness era. They never laid a hand on us in the first half. Therfore I would not get carried away just yet but there is nothing like a win to build confidence. There was obvious and much needed improvement in attack and discipline from previous games which bodes well for next week.
Kildare are more consistent than Donegal and will undoubtedly be well up for it at home. If we play like today we have a good chance, if we play like Kerry we will be in trouble. Hopefully we put relegation to bed next week as maintaining Div 1 status is vital for this group IMO.
I would question the midfield selection though as there seems to be a different pairing each week, for me our best pairing is Lavelle and Kearns and they should be allowed gel together whenever possible. Kildare are strong in this area so we need to target them there

mhunicean_abu (Monaghan) - Posts: 1068 - 13/03/2022 20:07:35    2405254

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Super display from Monaghan. We've really given ourselves a chance of staying up now and Donegal and Tyrone are dragged back into the relegation mire.

Great performances all round. Kieran Duffy probably wouldn't have got MoTM without those late points because the simple art of defending, that he excels at is underrated by the media. However he has been Monaghan's most consistent player since Banty was reappointed. Some of Rory's kickouts are so good it's almost breathtaking. Ryan McAnaspie was sublime today. It was Ryan Wylie's best game for a while, his rob of McBerity late on was the final nail in Donegal's coffin. Dessie Ward was excellent, Lavelle, Kieran Hughes and McCarthy all very good, Michael Bannigan has been giving at least an 8/10 every match this season and Gary Mohan's contribution is vastly increasing every week, surely a guaranteed starter now.

Tyrone with only 3 points are almost certainly gone with Mayo and Kerry to play who will take great delight in twisting the knife so it is now up to who is going to join them. So many permutations but the bottom line is that 4 points will not keep us up, one more win will.

FootblockREF (Monaghan) - Posts: 569 - 13/03/2022 20:46:50    2405266

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Replying To Blueblood4life:  "Another, perhaps more accurate way to look at our run is the following:

We have won 1 game out of 5

We have won 4 games out of 16 in the league under current manager

We have won 6 games out of 19 in both League & Championship under current manager

That's the facts, unfortunately. Sooner we take a step back and realise the return/long term damage this man will have had for us the sooner the Co. Board might act."
Bang on the money an excellent post..the results and win ratios speak for themselves.. someone earlier said how todays win would keep the keyboard warriors quiet.. personally I've always dealt in facts and the fact that we've won 6 out of 19 games under Banty speaks volumes for the valid point a lot of the so called "keyboard warriors" are trying to make..yes today was a excellent win albeit against an absolutely dire Donegal team missing a few key men who play the worst brand of football.. Donegal are like monaghan the problem is on the line..today is only papering over the cracks..we need change..

mick2007 (Monaghan) - Posts: 573 - 13/03/2022 21:18:08    2405273

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Looks like the shenanigans in the dressing room and in Monaghan town after the Kerry game wakened a few guys up. Monaghan still going down as can't see any points coming from Kildare or Dublin games.

seamusorinn (USA) - Posts: 295 - 14/03/2022 08:25:00    2405295

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Replying To Blueblood4life:  "Another, perhaps more accurate way to look at our run is the following:

We have won 1 game out of 5

We have won 4 games out of 16 in the league under current manager

We have won 6 games out of 19 in both League & Championship under current manager

That's the facts, unfortunately. Sooner we take a step back and realise the return/long term damage this man will have had for us the sooner the Co. Board might act."
Time with tell whether Banty was a good appointment. I remain open minded. The hope is that the entire team is good enough.

I take issue with Blueblood4life's depiction of performances, however.

Another way to look at it is:

Only lost one game in League 2021 (out of 4).

Only lost two games so far (against the top two teams in Ireland) in League 2022 (out of 5)

Only lost 6 out of 16 in league matches since start of 2020 (against the top 7 teams in the country).

Top scorers in last seasons Ulster Championship.

In league and championship matches against Donegal, Tyrone and Armagh, the record is W3, D4, L3 and yet everyone in the country considers each of them better than Monaghan.

Cavan match in 2020 really the the only low point.

The jury is out.

Biggest concern for me is not killing off teams, but overall Monaghan are very competitive and would have been not too far off the All-Ireland semi's last year if there was a back door. Monaghan 5th or 6th best team in Ireland. Can we go on a run and achieve more? Time will tell!

turnip12 (Monaghan) - Posts: 18 - 14/03/2022 10:19:14    2405327

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Replying To seamusorinn:  "Looks like the shenanigans in the dressing room and in Monaghan town after the Kerry game wakened a few guys up. Monaghan still going down as can't see any points coming from Kildare or Dublin games."
What exactly was reported to have happened? I heard whispers of an incident but it's been kept very quiet.

Blueblood4life (Monaghan) - Posts: 200 - 14/03/2022 11:25:01    2405347

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Replying To turnip12:  "Time with tell whether Banty was a good appointment. I remain open minded. The hope is that the entire team is good enough.

I take issue with Blueblood4life's depiction of performances, however.

Another way to look at it is:

Only lost one game in League 2021 (out of 4).

Only lost two games so far (against the top two teams in Ireland) in League 2022 (out of 5)

Only lost 6 out of 16 in league matches since start of 2020 (against the top 7 teams in the country).

Top scorers in last seasons Ulster Championship.

In league and championship matches against Donegal, Tyrone and Armagh, the record is W3, D4, L3 and yet everyone in the country considers each of them better than Monaghan.

Cavan match in 2020 really the the only low point.

The jury is out.

Biggest concern for me is not killing off teams, but overall Monaghan are very competitive and would have been not too far off the All-Ireland semi's last year if there was a back door. Monaghan 5th or 6th best team in Ireland. Can we go on a run and achieve more? Time will tell!"
"You'll win very little medals with Draws"

We are set up in such a way to ensure damage limitation in all games, this leads to us being hard to beat, for the most part.

We have drawn as many as we've lost in the league.

This is great for keeping men in a job, not for building a winning team/culture.

The picture needs to be bigger than being hard to beat.

Blueblood4life (Monaghan) - Posts: 200 - 14/03/2022 11:30:05    2405348

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Replying To Blueblood4life:  "Another, perhaps more accurate way to look at our run is the following:

We have won 1 game out of 5

We have won 4 games out of 16 in the league under current manager

We have won 6 games out of 19 in both League & Championship under current manager

That's the facts, unfortunately. Sooner we take a step back and realise the return/long term damage this man will have had for us the sooner the Co. Board might act."
Considering the opposition we played and the number of games drawn rather than lost you really do paint an overly negative picture. We have a limited pool of players/population and clubs compared to other counties - yet we ran the All Ireland champions closer than other team last year and stayed in Division 1. You do realise we're not Kerry, Mayo or Dublin, or do you? Let's judge this league campaign on the next two games. Because if we win them, it paints an entirely different picture. If we lose to Kildare, we deserve to go down and then, fair enough, it would be hard to argue against us being on a downward rather than upward trajectory.

SoNearYetSoFarney (Monaghan) - Posts: 58 - 14/03/2022 12:16:25    2405364

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It is not a Monaghan thing to point out but there remains a scenario where Monaghan get to the league final. Yes, this year. Long odds but it remains a possibility.

Monaghan beat Kildare and Dublin (Dublin will be difficult but Monaghan have done it before, and you never know with the momentum of games)
Mayo to lose to Tyrone (happened before) and Kildare (the only extremely unlikely result)
Armagh to lose to Kerry and Donegal (away)
Dublin to beat Donegal (certainty)

Apologies, I hang my head in shame for such optimism but it is worth pointing out.

turnip12 (Monaghan) - Posts: 18 - 14/03/2022 12:20:14    2405367

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Good result yesterday and displays by some key men esp the defence. However donegal were terrible and scoreline flattered them somewhat. They aren't the team of a few years ago their players are lightweight compared to those sides. Need a win from last two games. Think all about kildare match as don't see us beating dublin who will be in championship mode for Clones. In fairness v tough div so a lot of us would have taken this scenario start of the year. We have a good record v kildare in league and championship over the years so will be good test of whether we deserve div 1 football next year.

seanie08 (Monaghan) - Posts: 1893 - 14/03/2022 13:35:34    2405384

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Thought Monaghan was impressive yesterday for the most part of the game. Missed a lot of chances which left Donegal in it at the end. Young lads yesterday had a good game. McCarthy, Mohan, Lavelle, Bannigan and Woods all done very well I thought.

K Hughes very solid also. It is safe to say he looks to be back to what he was like in 2015. Calm on the ball, great confident kick passer (scared the audience a few times with outside of the boot), probably the best fielder of the ball on the team. So this is great for Monaghan to have him back to this level.

McManus got lots of ball but struggled to get on the scoreboard from play but distributed the ball well.
R Wylie was brilliant yesterday I thought along with K Duffy. Defensive players don't get the credit they deserve.

McAnespie and Ward were massive bonus' to have playing yesterday. They brought the game to Donegal and with McCarthy, Donegal could not handle them attacking.

Donegal looking very deflated yesterday in my opinion. Missed a lot like ourselves but they had no physicality which Donegal would be known for,

Looking forward to Kildare next up. Grab a point here and run if we can at the least. We are capable of beating them (and all teams in div 1) on any given day. The league this year is being played in tough conditions. Summer football will suit alot of these older guys so hopefully we have something successful to look forward to in the summer.

countymonaghan (Monaghan) - Posts: 289 - 14/03/2022 14:40:28    2405396

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Completely unacceptable. Lost by 9 and could and should have been more. With the exception of Gary Mohan, not a single player could be happy with that. A few lads would need a long look at themselves.

FootblockREF (Monaghan) - Posts: 569 - 20/03/2022 16:56:15    2405947

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Bad result today need to beat an improving dublin side and rely on other results. Think if we are honest this result had been coming. We just couldn't cope with kildares running power and athleticism. We have avoided the drop on so many occasions over the years by the tightest of margins but this looks one year too much.

seanie08 (Monaghan) - Posts: 1893 - 20/03/2022 17:45:40    2405962

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Very Disappointing performance today, a bit like the Kerry game we got away lucky with the size of defeat and thank god Daniel Flynn wasn't playing…it was always going to come down to the last game.. still hopeful of beating Dublin but even if we don't I don't have a problem with going to div 2 as we need to blood more young players next year and get a few wins under the belt.. every div 1 game is a grind both physically and mentally and we don't have a large enough squad to go full hog in it and then go straight into the champ..that's 6 wins out of 20 league & championship games under Banty so facts speak for themselves… it's not working and never was going to 2nd time round…

mick2007 (Monaghan) - Posts: 573 - 20/03/2022 18:46:40    2405980

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