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Agree that O' Toole put in a huge shift, especially in 3rd quarter, he seemed to give it everything all through, Danny Mc and Shane Dempsey also prominent but starved of possession in 2nd half and they're not the kind of players to roam deep for possession, Enda Gaffney was Loman's best defender.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1388 - 20/11/2023 11:21:57    2513842

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "
Replying To JoxerDaly:  "[quote=JoxerDaly:  "Leinster Club SFC Fixtures

Semifinals:
St Lomans v Naas, 19-Nov, 1.30pm, TEG Cusack Park
St Mary's Ardee v Kilmacud Crokes, 19-Nov, 1.30pm, Louth Venue TBC

Final, 2-Dec, 2.15pm, Croke Park

Verdict:
Killoe were weak, St Lomans took them apart in the first half. Naas will be no pushover. I hope that we see a second Leinster Club final in a row featuring a Westmeath Club, following the exploits of The Downs last year. However I think this is where the journey ends for St Lomans. Forward line is doing well, backs are still vulnerable.

The Downs beat St Mary's last year in TEG Cusack Park by 1-17 to 0-12, scoring 1-16 from play. I expect Kilmacud Crokes to hammer St Marys. Paul Mannion back at Centre Half Forward. Shane Walsh and Shane Cunningham are in form.

Kilmacud Crokes v Naas final, with Kilmacud to go on and win both the Leinster and All-Ireland Club Finals"
Leinster Club SFC Fixture

Final:
Kilmacud Crokes v Naas, 2 or 9-Dec, 2.15pm, Croke Park
Note:
If Naas qualify for the AIB Leinster Club Senior Hurling Final on 25-Nov - the AIB Leinster Club Senior Football Final - Kilmacud Crokes (DB) v Naas (KE) will be re-scheduled from the 2nd December to the 9th December 2023 - Venue & Time to be Confirmed.

Should be a cracking final. The game v St Lomans today will stand to Naas, level at full time, closed it out in extra time.

Verdict on Westmeath Senior Football Championship 2023:
St Lomans won a poor championship compared to the 2022 championship. Kinnegad won the league final v St Lomans, but couldn't get over the line versus St Lomans in the SFC Final. Caulry flattered to deceive, probably reached their ceiling. Tyrrellspass lost yet another semifinal or final. The 2 clubs with the most dual players - Killucan (Raharney) and The Downs (Clonkill) are relegated from Section A to B for 2024. Killucan have some good young players and a potential county player in Sam Smyth. The Downs were missing 7 players from the team that played the Leinster Club final in 2022, due to immigration and injury. I expect The Downs to be back to challenge next year, with St Lomans still the team to beat.

Comparison between 2022 and 2023:
In 2022, The Downs won the League and Championship without losing a game, and lost the Leinster Club Final to the eventual All-Ireland Club Winners, playing twice in Croke Park.
in 2023, St Lomans won the championship, lost the league final, lost the Leinster club semifinal, and didn't get to play in Croke Park at all.

As I have said previously, St Lomans are the big fish in the small pond, dominating Westmeath Senior football over the last 10 years, however failing to deliver on the big occasions in the Leinster club championship. They need to deliver in Leinster to be considered a great team. No comparison between The Downs in 2022 and St Lomans in 2023. St Lomans never got to the heights that The Downs go to in 2022 or that they themselves got to in 2017, although losing the Leinster Club final. Neither have matched Garrycastle's achievements in Leinster club and All-Ireland club series. Looking forward to the senior club championships in 2024!"
The Downs weren't unbeaten in last year's league, Kinnegad beat them in league, playing two matches in Croke Park hardly a major achievement, Leinster Council fixed matches for venues, Loman's have been standard bearers for 12 years, The Downs have won one championship in last 17 years."]I'd be fairly sure that The Downs were unbeaten in winning the 2022 league Division 1. Kinnegad beat them this year alright.

stonemadbeany (USA) - Posts: 532 - 20/11/2023 11:48:01    2513845

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "
Replying To JoxerDaly:  "[quote=JoxerDaly:  "Leinster Club SFC Fixtures

Semifinals:
St Lomans v Naas, 19-Nov, 1.30pm, TEG Cusack Park
St Mary's Ardee v Kilmacud Crokes, 19-Nov, 1.30pm, Louth Venue TBC

Final, 2-Dec, 2.15pm, Croke Park

Verdict:
Killoe were weak, St Lomans took them apart in the first half. Naas will be no pushover. I hope that we see a second Leinster Club final in a row featuring a Westmeath Club, following the exploits of The Downs last year. However I think this is where the journey ends for St Lomans. Forward line is doing well, backs are still vulnerable.

The Downs beat St Mary's last year in TEG Cusack Park by 1-17 to 0-12, scoring 1-16 from play. I expect Kilmacud Crokes to hammer St Marys. Paul Mannion back at Centre Half Forward. Shane Walsh and Shane Cunningham are in form.

Kilmacud Crokes v Naas final, with Kilmacud to go on and win both the Leinster and All-Ireland Club Finals"
Leinster Club SFC Fixture

Final:
Kilmacud Crokes v Naas, 2 or 9-Dec, 2.15pm, Croke Park
Note:
If Naas qualify for the AIB Leinster Club Senior Hurling Final on 25-Nov - the AIB Leinster Club Senior Football Final - Kilmacud Crokes (DB) v Naas (KE) will be re-scheduled from the 2nd December to the 9th December 2023 - Venue & Time to be Confirmed.

Should be a cracking final. The game v St Lomans today will stand to Naas, level at full time, closed it out in extra time.

Verdict on Westmeath Senior Football Championship 2023:
St Lomans won a poor championship compared to the 2022 championship. Kinnegad won the league final v St Lomans, but couldn't get over the line versus St Lomans in the SFC Final. Caulry flattered to deceive, probably reached their ceiling. Tyrrellspass lost yet another semifinal or final. The 2 clubs with the most dual players - Killucan (Raharney) and The Downs (Clonkill) are relegated from Section A to B for 2024. Killucan have some good young players and a potential county player in Sam Smyth. The Downs were missing 7 players from the team that played the Leinster Club final in 2022, due to immigration and injury. I expect The Downs to be back to challenge next year, with St Lomans still the team to beat.

Comparison between 2022 and 2023:
In 2022, The Downs won the League and Championship without losing a game, and lost the Leinster Club Final to the eventual All-Ireland Club Winners, playing twice in Croke Park.
in 2023, St Lomans won the championship, lost the league final, lost the Leinster club semifinal, and didn't get to play in Croke Park at all.

As I have said previously, St Lomans are the big fish in the small pond, dominating Westmeath Senior football over the last 10 years, however failing to deliver on the big occasions in the Leinster club championship. They need to deliver in Leinster to be considered a great team. No comparison between The Downs in 2022 and St Lomans in 2023. St Lomans never got to the heights that The Downs go to in 2022 or that they themselves got to in 2017, although losing the Leinster Club final. Neither have matched Garrycastle's achievements in Leinster club and All-Ireland club series. Looking forward to the senior club championships in 2024!"
The Downs weren't unbeaten in last year's league, Kinnegad beat them in league, playing two matches in Croke Park hardly a major achievement, Leinster Council fixed matches for venues, Loman's have been standard bearers for 12 years, The Downs have won one championship in last 17 years."]The only game the downs in 2022 was the Leinster final against kilmacud. That downs vs kinnegad game was the last group game and both teams already through to the final. Both clubs requested game to be called off and just play league final but county board said no. I went to watch that game thinking it would be a good one even though both were through but both teams had there 3rd string out if not even the 4th. John Fleming played for kinnegad that day likewise James conroy from the downs.
Agree re point with Lomans being standard bearers but it helps when they've a transfer window each year.

Westmeath213 (Westmeath) - Posts: 331 - 20/11/2023 11:52:59    2513849

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So any updates on club managers around the county ?
I hear The Downs are staying inhouse this year with Johnny Murray who got the Ladies to a county final last this year.
Good success coaching at underage previously so should know the players.
Will be interesting to see who comes in with him.
He should get a bounce from the panel following a poor 2023 assuming the key players are around for the summer.
I heard John Twaddle linked with Mullingar Shamrocks but nothing reliable.
Any other whispers ?

BigSur (Westmeath) - Posts: 1121 - 20/11/2023 16:07:58    2513894

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Replying To BigSur:  "So any updates on club managers around the county ?
I hear The Downs are staying inhouse this year with Johnny Murray who got the Ladies to a county final last this year.
Good success coaching at underage previously so should know the players.
Will be interesting to see who comes in with him.
He should get a bounce from the panel following a poor 2023 assuming the key players are around for the summer.
I heard John Twaddle linked with Mullingar Shamrocks but nothing reliable.
Any other whispers ?"
Twaddle will not be in charge of Shamrocks next year.

Frank74 (Longford) - Posts: 93 - 20/11/2023 22:35:51    2513945

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Replying To BigSur:  "So any updates on club managers around the county ?
I hear The Downs are staying inhouse this year with Johnny Murray who got the Ladies to a county final last this year.
Good success coaching at underage previously so should know the players.
Will be interesting to see who comes in with him.
He should get a bounce from the panel following a poor 2023 assuming the key players are around for the summer.
I heard John Twaddle linked with Mullingar Shamrocks but nothing reliable.
Any other whispers ?"
Twaddle a good fix for any of the top teams good coach. Shane Curran not going to the the downs so by what your saying

Undertheroad (Westmeath) - Posts: 32 - 20/11/2023 22:40:23    2513946

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Luke Dempsey been linked with The Downs and Caulry.

Spinx (Longford) - Posts: 1212 - 21/11/2023 13:34:39    2514020

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Replying To BigSur:  "So any updates on club managers around the county ?
I hear The Downs are staying inhouse this year with Johnny Murray who got the Ladies to a county final last this year.
Good success coaching at underage previously so should know the players.
Will be interesting to see who comes in with him.
He should get a bounce from the panel following a poor 2023 assuming the key players are around for the summer.
I heard John Twaddle linked with Mullingar Shamrocks but nothing reliable.
Any other whispers ?"
Johnny Murrays taking The Downs as far as I know, David Kelly from Multy was with him with the downs ladies for the last 2 years so maybe him too.

stonemadbeany (USA) - Posts: 532 - 21/11/2023 14:08:26    2514027

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Which clubs are without a manager:

Tang?
Caulry?
Shamrocks?
Shandonagh?

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St.marys?
Tubberclare?
Milltown?
Rosemount?
Is David Martin staying with MTP.
Multy?

PowellJohn3 (Westmeath) - Posts: 26 - 21/11/2023 15:27:47    2514044

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I see Tyrrellspass are seeking applications for new senior football manager.

BigSur (Westmeath) - Posts: 1121 - 21/11/2023 21:15:01    2514101

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Replying To PowellJohn3:  "Which clubs are without a manager:

Tang?
Caulry?
Shamrocks?
Shandonagh?

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St.marys?
Tubberclare?
Milltown?
Rosemount?
Is David Martin staying with MTP.
Multy?"
Tyrrellspass and st malachys also

DanGer966 (Westmeath) - Posts: 21 - 21/11/2023 23:11:13    2514110

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A lot of talk and rumours but I haven't heard of too many definitive announcements from clubs.

Garrycastle publicly announced Gary Dolan a few weeks ago but other than that the rumour mill is in full swing.

In Senior I believe Caulry, Tang, The Downs, Killucan, Shamrocks and Malachys are all still looking for managers.

Caulry being linked with some big names and Luke Dempsey is one I heard they are very eager to get. No confirmation if he is staying with Killoe or not. Twaddle is staying with Clonguish so looks unlikely to be going to Shamrocks. I hear Kenny McKinley is wanted by Killucan. Not much talk from Tang or Malachys but you would imagine most clubs would want to get things in place sooner rather than later. Would Budda have any interest in taking on the Malachys job with them now in the senior championship?

mintyfresh (Westmeath) - Posts: 210 - 22/11/2023 00:18:50    2514113

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Replying To PowellJohn3:  "Which clubs are without a manager:

Tang?
Caulry?
Shamrocks?
Shandonagh?

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St.marys?
Tubberclare?
Milltown?
Rosemount?
Is David Martin staying with MTP.
Multy?"
Can't see David Martin been kept on as Maryland needing a man job offered to Gary Flanagan with no real experience if Martin is a good club man he surely take on his own club and see what he is capable of as for Rosemount i here Peter leahy is in the running

Undertheroad (Westmeath) - Posts: 32 - 22/11/2023 01:21:36    2514114

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David Martin is a great club man, given Maryland great service, he doesn't have to train their adult side, he reached the final with the Pass, they'll want him to stay, be surprised if Ken McKinley leaves Malachy's, Killucan have Mick Murtagh lined up to replace Morley, he did a good job with Ballycomoyle last year, Johnny Murray training The Downs with a Kelly fella from Multy, Luke Dempsey almost confirmed with Caulry, Killoe looking for a new manager, possibility of Davy Glennon taking over Tyrrellspass, he was managing an intermediate club in Offaly and made a good impression there.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1388 - 22/11/2023 10:21:09    2514126

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "David Martin is a great club man, given Maryland great service, he doesn't have to train their adult side, he reached the final with the Pass, they'll want him to stay, be surprised if Ken McKinley leaves Malachy's, Killucan have Mick Murtagh lined up to replace Morley, he did a good job with Ballycomoyle last year, Johnny Murray training The Downs with a Kelly fella from Multy, Luke Dempsey almost confirmed with Caulry, Killoe looking for a new manager, possibility of Davy Glennon taking over Tyrrellspass, he was managing an intermediate club in Offaly and made a good impression there."
St Malachy's have already announced online that McKinley has left

IarmhiSupporter (Westmeath) - Posts: 3 - 22/11/2023 11:43:27    2514147

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How strong are the rumours about Dempsey to Caulry?
Declan Rowley is no longer chairman of Killoe so Luke could be looking for another move.
I heard John Twaddle is now joint manager of Clonguish and not just the coach for next season.
Is Shane Curran linked to anyone else over there?
I have not heard his name been put around for some jobs here other than Strokestown, but I don't see him going there.

Oddball (Roscommon) - Posts: 880 - 23/11/2023 10:08:01    2514248

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Surprised Mckinley wouldn't give Malachys a crack at senior. I have heard Tom Dillon could be taking Milltown over. Thought keith higgins was going to caulry and thats why he left Tang but no news came of that, maybe hes gone elsewhere as did very well last year. Caulry have to go large now after all the supposed money that was paid to curran, I wonder would curran take over St.Brigids as there manager as left or would they even want him.
No news from Ballymore i think Dermody has vacated that job and did pretty good with the squad he had, doubt Tubberclare are going to stick with Mccabe he must be there for over 5 years now and his second stint. Rumours Eddie Bouabse has taking the st.marys job.

PowellJohn3 (Westmeath) - Posts: 26 - 23/11/2023 12:43:38    2514290

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Replying To PowellJohn3:  "Which clubs are without a manager:

Tang?
Caulry?
Shamrocks?
Shandonagh?

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St.marys?
Tubberclare?
Milltown?
Rosemount?
Is David Martin staying with MTP.
Multy?"
Eddie Bouabbse going to St.Mary's, Rochfortbridge?

Yellow&Green (Westmeath) - Posts: 33 - 23/11/2023 13:04:14    2514296

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "David Martin is a great club man, given Maryland great service, he doesn't have to train their adult side, he reached the final with the Pass, they'll want him to stay, be surprised if Ken McKinley leaves Malachy's, Killucan have Mick Murtagh lined up to replace Morley, he did a good job with Ballycomoyle last year, Johnny Murray training The Downs with a Kelly fella from Multy, Luke Dempsey almost confirmed with Caulry, Killoe looking for a new manager, possibility of Davy Glennon taking over Tyrrellspass, he was managing an intermediate club in Offaly and made a good impression there."
Is Luke Dempsey really about to be confirmed as Caulry manager? Luke only joined up with Killoe in April after travelling in Australia with his family. Id be surprised if that comes true but Caulry should have no problem bringing a big name in with all the talent they have coming through.

A_Chairde (Westmeath) - Posts: 155 - 23/11/2023 14:46:52    2514315

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Replying To Oddball:  "How strong are the rumours about Dempsey to Caulry?
Declan Rowley is no longer chairman of Killoe so Luke could be looking for another move.
I heard John Twaddle is now joint manager of Clonguish and not just the coach for next season.
Is Shane Curran linked to anyone else over there?
I have not heard his name been put around for some jobs here other than Strokestown, but I don't see him going there."
Dempsey to Caulry almost done . Its a very positive appointment for Caulry very promising team with the right man they will have a decent chance winning the championship. As for Tang not sure why Higgins has departed maybe u could see Twaddle head there as travel wouldn't be a issue.

Undertheroad (Westmeath) - Posts: 32 - 23/11/2023 15:05:19    2514319

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