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Replying To Temple56:  "Lomans played Garrycastle in Moate in 2021, in Tubberclair in 2019 and in Rosemount in 2018."
They weren't in the same group in 2018. Only played in the semi, which was in Cusack. Garrycastle did play Shamrocks in Rosemount in 2018 though.

jamsie (Westmeath) - Posts: 452 - 27/07/2023 16:02:56    2497323

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Replying To midlands:  "This is not a new phenomenon. For instance, over the years I recall Shamrocks playing Garrycastle in venues such as Moate, Rosemount, Rochfortbridge and Ballymore, when both were considered top senior teams. I can recall Loman's playing Garrycastle just once outside of Cusack Park."
Rosemount played Shamrocks in Ballynacargy 1964. Its always been all over the place.

Icehouse (Westmeath) - Posts: 81 - 27/07/2023 16:28:53    2497329

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Replying To Icehouse:  "Rosemount played Shamrocks in Ballynacargy 1964. Its always been all over the place."
Was John Joe Brady referee?

A_Chairde (Westmeath) - Posts: 218 - 27/07/2023 17:12:05    2497335

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Any one out there with an in depth knowledge of our rules be able to shed light on the following:

If a team scores a point from play but an off the ball incident took place before the point was scored can the point then be cancelled and a free given from the place the incident took place, despite it not impacting on the initial play which led to the score?

Or should the score stand and the incident be dealt with separately?

TigerWoods90 (Westmeath) - Posts: 150 - 27/07/2023 21:07:33    2497365

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Replying To jamsie:  "They weren't in the same group in 2018. Only played in the semi, which was in Cusack. Garrycastle did play Shamrocks in Rosemount in 2018 though."
Sorry Garrycastle Lomans in rosemount was 2017

Temple56 (Westmeath) - Posts: 464 - 27/07/2023 21:09:19    2497366

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Replying To A_Chairde:  "Was John Joe Brady referee?"
I think that John Joe Brady started referring later in the 60s.

Icehouse (Westmeath) - Posts: 81 - 27/07/2023 22:39:57    2497374

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Build up to the weekends championship fixtures..
Here are my Senior picks:

St.Lomans vs Caulry (Caulry)
T'pass vs The Downs (The Downs)
Kinnegad vs Killucan (Kinnegad)

Shamrocks vs Athlone (Athlone)
Moate vs Shandonagh (Moate)
Tang vs G'castle (Tang)

Only one surprise on the card IMO this weekend and that's Caulry to beat St.Lomans.
St. Lomans always seem to have one hiccup in the group stages and I feel that Caulry will have learned lots from playing them over the past two seasons at Senior Level. It's all down to the team St.Lomans decide to go with but if it's a replica of the previous teams (especially in defense) then I think Caulry will go at them early and the St.Lomans "All Star" bench might not get a chance to turn the tide.

I also can't see John Heslin starting inside. Kevin Maguire has always had his number so presuming John starts at Midfield or centre forward.

Edman78 (Westmeath) - Posts: 100 - 31/07/2023 10:07:38    2497934

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Replying To Edman78:  "Build up to the weekends championship fixtures..
Here are my Senior picks:

St.Lomans vs Caulry (Caulry)
T'pass vs The Downs (The Downs)
Kinnegad vs Killucan (Kinnegad)

Shamrocks vs Athlone (Athlone)
Moate vs Shandonagh (Moate)
Tang vs G'castle (Tang)

Only one surprise on the card IMO this weekend and that's Caulry to beat St.Lomans.
St. Lomans always seem to have one hiccup in the group stages and I feel that Caulry will have learned lots from playing them over the past two seasons at Senior Level. It's all down to the team St.Lomans decide to go with but if it's a replica of the previous teams (especially in defense) then I think Caulry will go at them early and the St.Lomans "All Star" bench might not get a chance to turn the tide.

I also can't see John Heslin starting inside. Kevin Maguire has always had his number so presuming John starts at Midfield or centre forward."
A lot of close calls this weekend
Caulry V St Lomans, Lomans by 2, Caulry will definitely trouble Lomans, formidably strong forward line Baker, McCormack, Sleator and young O Donovan can cause Lomans plenty of problems.
Game of the weekend, dont see Lomans slipping up through
Tyrrellspass V The Downs, The Downs by 1, Tpass looked decent in first half against Lomans, got amongst Lomans and started a row but lost there heads thereafter.
The Downs and Luke Loughlin really struggling for form and get hesitant nod to prevail.
Kinnegad V Killucan, Kinnegad by 1, Kinnegad are playing poorly but grinding out results.
Sam Smyth will keep Fleming quiet but the other end is Killucans problem.

Shamrocks V Athlone, Shamrocks by 3, Shamrocks are starting to move through gears with wins over Shandonagh and Garrycastlle.
Moate V Shandonagh, Moate by 5, Im giving up on Shandonagh, they always flatter to deceive while Moate have been solid even in defeat last time
Tang V Garrycastle, Tang by 3, Garrycastle let six point lead slip against Shamrocks and hard to see there fortunes inproving against top of the table Tang

lakecounty90 (Westmeath) - Posts: 104 - 31/07/2023 12:14:35    2497999

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Replying To Edman78:  "Build up to the weekends championship fixtures..
Here are my Senior picks:

St.Lomans vs Caulry (Caulry)
T'pass vs The Downs (The Downs)
Kinnegad vs Killucan (Kinnegad)

Shamrocks vs Athlone (Athlone)
Moate vs Shandonagh (Moate)
Tang vs G'castle (Tang)

Only one surprise on the card IMO this weekend and that's Caulry to beat St.Lomans.
St. Lomans always seem to have one hiccup in the group stages and I feel that Caulry will have learned lots from playing them over the past two seasons at Senior Level. It's all down to the team St.Lomans decide to go with but if it's a replica of the previous teams (especially in defense) then I think Caulry will go at them early and the St.Lomans "All Star" bench might not get a chance to turn the tide.

I also can't see John Heslin starting inside. Kevin Maguire has always had his number so presuming John starts at Midfield or centre forward."
Again looking forward to this weekends matches.

St.Lomans vs Caulry - St Lomans by 3
T'pass vs The Downs - The Downs by 5
Kinnegad vs Killucan - Kinnegad by 5

Shamrocks vs Athlone - Shamrocks by 2
Moate vs Shandonagh - Moate by 4
Tang vs G'castle - Tang by 5

Lomans are the team to beat. They will go unbeaten in the group stages; along with Kinnegad.
If The Downs and Kinnegad win then Caulry are in a Quater Final and the final group game between them and The Downs is to see who finishes 3rd or 4th in the group.

Caulry have a very good squad this year. Lomans squad is the strongest in the county. For a small club to be playing St Lomans for the third year in a row in the senior championship is brilliant. However I think this game vs Lomans will be too soon for them. Might be different if they get the opportunity to play them for a fourth time later in the championship this year. Whatever happens it's going to be a good game and a chance to watch two of the best footballers in the country go up against each other in Kevin Maguire and John Heslin.

Curran and Mooney have managed Conor McCormack's game time very well and he is only getting stronger and fitter.

Mountlin (Westmeath) - Posts: 59 - 31/07/2023 16:04:18    2498119

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What are peoples Thoughts ahead of a vital weekend in our local championship , could we see the reigning champions sent packing ? Could the mighty Garrycastle be consigned to intermediate , will section B of the intermediate be blown totally open , what does everyone think ? Is there some shocks in store for us ?

TheGaaMan77 (Westmeath) - Posts: 34 - 02/08/2023 13:12:48    2498598

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Replying To TheGaaMan77:  "What are peoples Thoughts ahead of a vital weekend in our local championship , could we see the reigning champions sent packing ? Could the mighty Garrycastle be consigned to intermediate , will section B of the intermediate be blown totally open , what does everyone think ? Is there some shocks in store for us ?"
Garrycastle won't go down without a fight. Things have not been going their way but when their backs are against the wall they could very well come up with a result. Tang are in good form though and would love to seal a quarter final place with a game to spare. Not too many have backed them in any of their games to date and they have proven them wrong. Tang beat Garrycastle easily in the league so they won't have any fear of their opponents. I wouldn't rule out a draw but I think going on form Tang to shade it by 2-3points. Garrycastle even if they lose to Tang still have a chance if Athlone lose to Shamrocks with both effectively playing off for survival in the last game if that permutation arises. Now that would be some story if both Athlone town teams find themselves in that situation. I tip Shamrocks to beat Athlone by 3-4pts. Athlone made very hard work of beating Shandonagh and although they missed a lot against Tang they were easily beaten by Moate in the end too. Take Ray Connellan out of it they don't fill you with confidence. More was probably made out of them winning Division 2 when all of their championship opponents were playing tough games against each other in Division 1. Looking at Miltownpass form since the Division 2 final it doesn't give Athlone's achievement as much weight as many would have thought.
Moate should beat Shandonagh by 5+ points. Moate will be eager to bounce back after last weeks loss to Tang and if results go as I predict that lines up a winner takes all match with Shamrocks in the final round to take the quarter final spot. Shandonagh despite their close first day win over Garrycastle have not impressed, particularly against Shamrocks where they only scored 3 points. That is a very poor return in any senior championship game no matter who you are playing.

mintyfresh (Westmeath) - Posts: 236 - 02/08/2023 13:52:30    2498611

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Replying To TheGaaMan77:  "What are peoples Thoughts ahead of a vital weekend in our local championship , could we see the reigning champions sent packing ? Could the mighty Garrycastle be consigned to intermediate , will section B of the intermediate be blown totally open , what does everyone think ? Is there some shocks in store for us ?"
The Downs will win the next two games.

Greenandgoldie (Westmeath) - Posts: 146 - 02/08/2023 13:54:25    2498613

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Replying To Greenandgoldie:  "The Downs will win the next two games."
You'd expect it but if Caulry get a win vs Lomans (which I'm tipping them to) then they would be looking to push for a semi final spot and I'd fancy them to beat the Downs in that final game! Caulrys performance this weekend will tell all. The Downs are not a certainty to win the next two.. Tyrellspass were very impressive first half vs Lomans. Momentum is massive, and The Downs can't find their rhythm at all, they don't look fit and hungry for it, maybe this season is simply about consolidation. These lads played in a Leinster final only in December. It's totally natural for the following year to be below par. Especially with losing the players they have. The Downs need everyone. Hoping they can get to a quarter but I'm not fully convinced. Great weekend ahead.

Edman78 (Westmeath) - Posts: 100 - 02/08/2023 14:20:36    2498631

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In B section crucially Shandonagh,Garrycastle and Athlone will probably have to get to 4 points to have a chance of avoiding relegation playoffs. Who is most likely of the trio to achieve this?..Hard to call.

Baldy1 (Westmeath) - Posts: 90 - 02/08/2023 14:53:52    2498646

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Replying To Edman78:  "You'd expect it but if Caulry get a win vs Lomans (which I'm tipping them to) then they would be looking to push for a semi final spot and I'd fancy them to beat the Downs in that final game! Caulrys performance this weekend will tell all. The Downs are not a certainty to win the next two.. Tyrellspass were very impressive first half vs Lomans. Momentum is massive, and The Downs can't find their rhythm at all, they don't look fit and hungry for it, maybe this season is simply about consolidation. These lads played in a Leinster final only in December. It's totally natural for the following year to be below par. Especially with losing the players they have. The Downs need everyone. Hoping they can get to a quarter but I'm not fully convinced. Great weekend ahead."
The championship hasnt quite taken off yet but Caulry win on Saturday they will surely be considered serious contenders to lift Flanagan. The Caulry lads are confident of turning over the Blues speaking to a few of them yesterday.

lakecounty90 (Westmeath) - Posts: 104 - 02/08/2023 15:21:03    2498666

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Replying To lakecounty90:  "The championship hasnt quite taken off yet but Caulry win on Saturday they will surely be considered serious contenders to lift Flanagan. The Caulry lads are confident of turning over the Blues speaking to a few of them yesterday."
One thing you could never accuse Caulry of is a lack of confidence!
I can't see them beating Lomans, think if The Downs get a few back they could turn Caulry over too.
Think it seems to be lining up for a Lomans - Kinnegad final.

iarmhi_an_mhaith (Westmeath) - Posts: 273 - 02/08/2023 17:22:06    2498724

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Replying To iarmhi_an_mhaith:  "One thing you could never accuse Caulry of is a lack of confidence!
I can't see them beating Lomans, think if The Downs get a few back they could turn Caulry over too.
Think it seems to be lining up for a Lomans - Kinnegad final."
I think Kinnegad are most impressive team so far. But long way to go

Greenandgoldie (Westmeath) - Posts: 146 - 02/08/2023 17:59:34    2498734

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Caulry as championship contenders is not something I understand. They've certainly improved, have a young side with couple of exceptions and 4-5 players on county panels at senior and 20 level but still cannot see them anywhere near Loman's or Kinnegad or The Downs, they just got over Killucan and Killucan are not going well this year.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1812 - 02/08/2023 18:05:11    2498735

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Caulry as championship contenders is not something I understand. They've certainly improved, have a young side with couple of exceptions and 4-5 players on county panels at senior and 20 level but still cannot see them anywhere near Loman's or Kinnegad or The Downs, they just got over Killucan and Killucan are not going well this year."
That's a good summary of Caulry's position.

Icehouse (Westmeath) - Posts: 81 - 03/08/2023 10:12:12    2498796

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Caulry as championship contenders is not something I understand. They've certainly improved, have a young side with couple of exceptions and 4-5 players on county panels at senior and 20 level but still cannot see them anywhere near Loman's or Kinnegad or The Downs, they just got over Killucan and Killucan are not going well this year."
They are not contenders - it's just noise. They do have a very good chance of having their best year yet though, by making a semi final. That will set them up to push on in coming years.
When was the last time a team won the championship where none of their players had at least played in a semi final previously? The Downs in 2003 maybe? It doesn't happen for good reason. Even the extremely young Garrycastle winners in 2001 had to lose a semi in 2000 first.

jamsie (Westmeath) - Posts: 452 - 03/08/2023 10:30:55    2498798

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