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Replying To Left Full:  "After the second round things become a little clearer. No surprise in Senior A, Lomans, Kinnegad are certs to make the semis. Downs were very bad against Killucan but they should still make it through probably with Caulry.
Tang & Moate looking good from Senior B but I still think Shamrocks could sneak through. Garrycastle-Athlone will be some match for survival at senior.
Tubberclair looking good in intermediate, I expect Milltown to make the semis as well despite losing to Ballymore in the first round along with Rosemont & Ballymore in quarters. Malachys are going well & are probably too strong for group B, surprise packets Ballynacargy are in a great position to qualify as well. Milltownpass will be ok, Sam Duncan back & Brandon Kelly due home soon so they could still get through. Multy will be happy to stay up, Cfcw will need a win the next day but this group is wide open.
Junior will be close but I tip Josephs to finally get over the line. It would be some final if they were meet Kilbeggan in it.
Senior clubs will lose a few but Lomans are probably best placed to challenge or win it."
Looking ahead to R3 this weekend.
Wouldnt say Kinnegad are certs to make semis, Downs beat them this weekend that would leave them on 3 pt each and above Kinnegad on head 2 head?
Pressure is on Downs tho but with few bodies back they will fancy there chances of keepin up the good record they have over Kinnegad in recent years.
Have Flanagan cup champions from previous year ever failed to win first three games?
I think one things certain is that Lomans will win rest of their matches, if theres to be an upset on the blues I think Caulry could cause it.

Latest betting odds. Moate were biggest outsiders before ball was kicked at 66/1.
St Lomans Mullingar. 11/8

The Downs 3/1

Coralstown Kinnegad 4/1

Tyrrellspass 9/1

Caulry 14/1

Tang 16/1

Moate 16/1

Killucan 20/1

Mullingar Shamrocks 25/1

Garrycastle 40/1

Shandonagh 50/1

Athlone 66/1

lakecounty90 (Westmeath) - Posts: 131 - 17/07/2023 14:35:55    2495122

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Predictions for this weekend

St.Lomans vs TPass (Lomans)
The Downs vs Kinnegad (Kinnegad)
Caulry vs Killucan (Caulry)

Moate vs Tang (Tang)
Garrycastle vs Shamrocks (Shamrocks)
Athlone vs Shandonagh (Athlone)

Expecting a big crowd into the park on Saturday to see St. Lomans and Kinnegad games with no game being shown on iarmhi tv.

Still in the early stages as regards knockout in Section A, with a loss for any team still not the end of the world. The same can't be said for Section B with either Moate or Tang looking at going through to a quarter final already with a win. Exciting weekend ahead.

Edman78 (Westmeath) - Posts: 100 - 17/07/2023 14:40:59    2495125

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Replying To Edman78:  "I got to one game this weekend and I wished I had stayed at home for the majors of it. St. Lomans and Kinnegad played out the draw in the end. The game didn't get going until the last 20 minutes and it has to be said that style of play from both teams was a sight to behold. Lateral, slow, defensive, keep ball at any cost football. The introduction of Peter Foy and Shane Dempsey gave the game the spark it needed but It must be said that I'm not sure how long Paddy Dowdall will get away with not starting his strongest team. TJ Cox was injured which was a big loss but Danny McCartan picked up where he left off with a super game. Chances are had Dempsey and Foy started the game could have been over well before the final kick of the game. Foy especially, from wing back was an outstanding, scoring and creating scores. His kicking of the ball and his runs at pace changed the spirit of the game. Kinnegad will be relieved with the draw but it's another feather in their cap that St. Lomans can't seem to put them away. Very similar to The Downs last year. I see a Kinnegad vs Lomans final, and my gut is starting to tell me that this is Kinnegads year. I stated earlier in the week that the Lomans defence needs improving and it showed again with the Kinnegad goal coming from sloppy passing at the back where a nothing situation put Kinnegad ahead. St. Lomans replied straight away but they won't get the chance in other games. All in all, it was a demoralizing game for supporters, the modern game at its worst for the majority of it. County players Sam McCartan, Heslin and O'Toole below par for the majority until the final quarter. Kinnegad were very poor but again, got the draw, and that's encouraging for them. The only unbeaten team in Westmeath top tier football this year. so far."
Foy is a class player but obvously hasnt legs to last full game, he is a good age.
Rather than start him Foy is brilliant sub to have come on when game is in melting pot.
Dowdalls never going to start with his best six forwards Heslin, Tooler, 2 McCartans Dempsey and TJ as you need players that are willing to track pitch up and down some of these lads dont want to be doing that.
Sean Flanagan and Graham are work horses so they are automatic starters.
Lomans have bench like Dubs in fairness

lakecounty90 (Westmeath) - Posts: 131 - 17/07/2023 14:56:11    2495132

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Replying To lakecounty90:  "Looking ahead to R3 this weekend.
Wouldnt say Kinnegad are certs to make semis, Downs beat them this weekend that would leave them on 3 pt each and above Kinnegad on head 2 head?
Pressure is on Downs tho but with few bodies back they will fancy there chances of keepin up the good record they have over Kinnegad in recent years.
Have Flanagan cup champions from previous year ever failed to win first three games?
I think one things certain is that Lomans will win rest of their matches, if theres to be an upset on the blues I think Caulry could cause it.

Latest betting odds. Moate were biggest outsiders before ball was kicked at 66/1.
St Lomans Mullingar. 11/8

The Downs 3/1

Coralstown Kinnegad 4/1

Tyrrellspass 9/1

Caulry 14/1

Tang 16/1

Moate 16/1

Killucan 20/1

Mullingar Shamrocks 25/1

Garrycastle 40/1

Shandonagh 50/1

Athlone 66/1"
Cant see how tyrellspass are 4th favourites. Think they will be relegated.

Captainfantastic (Westmeath) - Posts: 50 - 18/07/2023 00:03:25    2495275

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Replying To Captainfantastic:  "Cant see how tyrellspass are 4th favourites. Think they will be relegated."
They can't be relegated. They are in Section A

jamsie (Westmeath) - Posts: 472 - 18/07/2023 10:31:56    2495327

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Enter mick cunningham

A_Chairde (Westmeath) - Posts: 294 - 18/07/2023 11:04:55    2495348

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Presume he means demoted to Section B. Certainly likely if Caulry beat Killucan this weekend, Tyrrellspass would need to get 3 points to overhaul Caulry from their remaining toughest matches versus Loman's, The Downs and Coralstown Kinnegad, hard to see that happening.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 2152 - 18/07/2023 11:30:09    2495355

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Replying To Captainfantastic:  "Cant see how tyrellspass are 4th favourites. Think they will be relegated."
relegated

mickcunningham (Westmeath) - Posts: 1898 - 18/07/2023 12:07:41    2495371

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Replying To mickcunningham:  "tyrrellspass will be in quarter final"
Are you coming around to my way of thinking Mick?

CasKD (Westmeath) - Posts: 38 - 18/07/2023 14:13:35    2495414

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Weekend Senior fuxtures
Lomans v Tyrellspass Lomans by 6
Downs v Kinnegad Kinnegad by 2
Killucan v Caulry Caulry by 4
Moate v Tang draw
Athlone v Shandonagh Athlone by 3
Garrycastle v Shamrocks Shamrocks by 4
Unfortunately Garrycastle could be in serious relegation trouble after this weekend.Hopefully im wrong and they get a result.

Bruno@1 (Westmeath) - Posts: 257 - 18/07/2023 15:37:49    2495438

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Replying To Bruno@1:  "Weekend Senior fuxtures
Lomans v Tyrellspass Lomans by 6
Downs v Kinnegad Kinnegad by 2
Killucan v Caulry Caulry by 4
Moate v Tang draw
Athlone v Shandonagh Athlone by 3
Garrycastle v Shamrocks Shamrocks by 4
Unfortunately Garrycastle could be in serious relegation trouble after this weekend.Hopefully im wrong and they get a result."
They are going poorly for sure, but they are still to play 3 games, and they have a very good record against Shamrocks , and an even better one against Athlone. I know they are not the team they were ,and they will quite likely be relegated in the next few years, but I kind of fancy them to take a couple of wins this year and be ok. If they do stay up, it might be at Shandonagh's expense. Can see them losing their remaining 3 if they don't drastically improve on their last game.

jamsie (Westmeath) - Posts: 472 - 18/07/2023 16:33:54    2495463

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Replying To jamsie:  "They can't be relegated. They are in Section A"
Relegated from Division 1 - watch it.

Captainfantastic (Westmeath) - Posts: 50 - 18/07/2023 23:32:10    2495523

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Replying To CasKD:  "Are you coming around to my way of thinking Mick?"
they could be back in the b division

mickcunningham (Westmeath) - Posts: 1898 - 19/07/2023 08:51:24    2495535

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Has anyone seen anyone new that has caught the eye in the club games so far that could add to Westmeath panel? I believe Neary from Tang has been decent. Danny mccartan also showing signs he could make the step up. With potential retirements in the near future i think we will need to see at least 2/3 new players next season

Lakecounty94 (Westmeath) - Posts: 80 - 19/07/2023 14:28:36    2495650

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Replying To Lakecounty94:  "Has anyone seen anyone new that has caught the eye in the club games so far that could add to Westmeath panel? I believe Neary from Tang has been decent. Danny mccartan also showing signs he could make the step up. With potential retirements in the near future i think we will need to see at least 2/3 new players next season"
Charlie Drumm will be available hopefully, Kevin O Sullivan, Sam Smyth and Sean Leach, Harry Niall and Darragh Lowry .

A_Chairde (Westmeath) - Posts: 294 - 19/07/2023 17:11:33    2495695

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Replying To Bruno@1:  "Weekend Senior fuxtures
Lomans v Tyrellspass Lomans by 6
Downs v Kinnegad Kinnegad by 2
Killucan v Caulry Caulry by 4
Moate v Tang draw
Athlone v Shandonagh Athlone by 3
Garrycastle v Shamrocks Shamrocks by 4
Unfortunately Garrycastle could be in serious relegation trouble after this weekend.Hopefully im wrong and they get a result."
Round 3 this weekend. Really looking forward to it.
Will be at the Caulry Killucan game and the double header in TEG

Section A
Lomans v Tyrellspass - Lomans by 8
Downs v Kinnegad - Draw
Killucan v Caulry - Caulry by 3

Section B
Moate v Tang - Tang by 2
Athlone v Shandonagh - Athlone by 3
Garrycastle v Shamrocks - Shamrocks by 1

Mountlin (Westmeath) - Posts: 59 - 19/07/2023 18:21:54    2495712

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Replying To CasKD:  "After the weekend I think we'll see
Lomans and Kinnegad to the semis

The Downs & Caulry to the quarters
and Moate & Shamrocks to join them"
I'm sticking to these and adding shandonagh to be relegated

CasKD (Westmeath) - Posts: 38 - 19/07/2023 20:47:31    2495725

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Replying To Lakecounty94:  "Has anyone seen anyone new that has caught the eye in the club games so far that could add to Westmeath panel? I believe Neary from Tang has been decent. Danny mccartan also showing signs he could make the step up. With potential retirements in the near future i think we will need to see at least 2/3 new players next season"
Conor Gaffney from CFCW has scored 2-10 so far in a team that's not going that well last two games. Looks talented from what I've seen.

Jack_Sparrow (Westmeath) - Posts: 1038 - 19/07/2023 20:53:00    2495727

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Replying To Lakecounty94:  "Has anyone seen anyone new that has caught the eye in the club games so far that could add to Westmeath panel? I believe Neary from Tang has been decent. Danny mccartan also showing signs he could make the step up. With potential retirements in the near future i think we will need to see at least 2/3 new players next season"
So far I'm keeping and eye on Enda Gaffney for St. Lomans w/ TJ Cox needing to make a breakthrough this year. He's been on the county panel for 3/4 years now. I wouldn't judge anyone just yet however. It's the big knockout games that will define the county standard players. It's all a bit too easy at the moment when nothing is really and truly on the line. Knockout football will tell all. We've seen it so many times with players looking like world beaters early on, but when the heat is on in bigger games they can go missing.

Realistically we only need a couple of players to make a breakthrough if we keep everyone. As much as I admire the likes of Conor Dillon, Andy McCormack, David Lynch,they will need to be replaced IMO. From the Tyrone game, every Westmeath player (aside from those players I've just mentioned) looked like they could take on a man, spread play, take a score and you have to say that Westmeath have the talent in 12/13 positions but they lacked another 3 starters. Baker should and will be hopefully the obvious one to step up next year.
You can't afford to have only a "steady" or "workhorse" player on a county team, they need to be that and skillful, unpredictable to the opposition, confident to kick and take scores. That's what I'm looking out for in the club championship.

Edman78 (Westmeath) - Posts: 100 - 20/07/2023 15:02:48    2495834

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Lunch and McCormack were two of our best players in championship, hard to argue they should be replaced, both also produce consistently good performances for their clubs, albeit at intermediate level but they're worthy of placed on county team, let alone panel. Conor Gaffney excellent for Finea but he's a hurler firstly, good to see Matt Whittaker back for Tubberclair, Sean Leech over injury problems, just needs games to get up to full ability.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 2152 - 20/07/2023 15:19:18    2495835

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