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Replying To TigerWoods90: "Big shock in the Junior last night with Ballycomoyle beating St. Josephs, with so many young players maybe St. Josephs lack that experience to win a championship, they have impressively beaten all in front of them in the league for the last 2 years." League football and championship football are two complete different animals. Can younger players hack the physicality that championship brings, that said, this joes team will win won, a matter of when as opposed to if westmeathgaa11 (Westmeath) - Posts: 312 - 24/06/2023 13:34:27 2488798 Link
Replying To westmeathgaa11: "League football and championship football are two complete different animals. Can younger players hack the physicality that championship brings, that said, this joes team will win won, a matter of when as opposed to if" As suggested in my previous post but didn't see them being caught out there; maybe a little too much hype linked to them this week on podcasts etc TigerWoods90 (Westmeath) - Posts: 156 - 24/06/2023 16:23:43 2488834 Link
Hype? Hardly considering they're not championship favourites. Complacency maybe as Ballycomoyle have had a poor season in the league and were operating two divisions below Joseph's. The Joseph's full back Line was too open in opening twenty mins. Ballycomoyle went for goals often and took them well Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 2152 - 24/06/2023 17:28:15 2488857 Link
Replying To Claretandblue: "Hype? Hardly considering they're not championship favourites. Complacency maybe as Ballycomoyle have had a poor season in the league and were operating two divisions below Joseph's. The Joseph's full back Line was too open in opening twenty mins. Ballycomoyle went for goals often and took them well" Yes hype as they've won two leagues back to back, were tipped on many forums this week as the team to watch and beat along with their neighbors. TigerWoods90 (Westmeath) - Posts: 156 - 24/06/2023 18:28:47 2488870 Link
Hope no one followed Lakecounty's tips for Caulry match!! They'd want to improve an awful lot in second half, three goals conceded already Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 2152 - 24/06/2023 18:39:36 2488872 Link
Joseph's haven't been championship contenders in at least 15 years, possibly longer. Winning the lower echelons of the league hardly warrants hype. Championship is a different animal and surely their players hardly bought into hype before championship began. Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 2152 - 24/06/2023 18:43:05 2488874 Link
Replying To Claretandblue: "Joseph's haven't been championship contenders in at least 15 years, possibly longer. Winning the lower echelons of the league hardly warrants hype. Championship is a different animal and surely their players hardly bought into hype before championship began." What they done in the last 15 years is irrelevant, they are a young team on the up and I have seen them being very impressive on a few occasions irrespective of the opposition. It's not exactly a great championship so winning two leagues back to back at that level should equate to being in the mix for the junior. TigerWoods90 (Westmeath) - Posts: 156 - 24/06/2023 18:53:10 2488878 Link
No one's doubtful that Joseph's will be in the mix, you mentioned hype and my argument was surely hype shouldn't be remotely an issue at the outset of a championship that this side has not being competitive in in two decades. The supporters for Joseph's may be an issue, they can lose the run of themselves easily but it's management job to insulate players Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 2152 - 24/06/2023 21:33:46 2488939 Link
Saw the Senior champions today. Lomans comfortably disposing of The Downs without John Heslin and Shane Dempsey. Only named 24 in the programme but all quality. Massive squad depth compared to other teams. Ronan O'Toole and Sam McCartan excellent Kinnegad full value for their win and clinical in front of goal. Caulry very open in first half and they caused Kinnrgad problems and could easily have had 3-4 goals themselves by the end. Missing the quality of Conor McCormack and Damien Dolan is huge. Also had 3 other players come off injured. The younger Baker is a classy player. Huge game for Caulry in 2 weeks again Tyrrellspass Mountlin (Westmeath) - Posts: 59 - 24/06/2023 23:12:35 2488969 Link
Replying To Claretandblue: "Hype? Hardly considering they're not championship favourites. Complacency maybe as Ballycomoyle have had a poor season in the league and were operating two divisions below Joseph's. The Joseph's full back Line was too open in opening twenty mins. Ballycomoyle went for goals often and took them well" In fairness to Ballycomoyle I wouldn't call it a poor leave season, have won every game in their league bar a league final. On their day with a full selection of hurlers available they will trouble most in this championship westmeathgaa11 (Westmeath) - Posts: 312 - 24/06/2023 23:44:15 2488974 Link
Replying To Mountlin: "Saw the Senior champions today. Lomans comfortably disposing of The Downs without John Heslin and Shane Dempsey. Only named 24 in the programme but all quality. Massive squad depth compared to other teams. Ronan O'Toole and Sam McCartan excellent Kinnegad full value for their win and clinical in front of goal. Caulry very open in first half and they caused Kinnrgad problems and could easily have had 3-4 goals themselves by the end. Missing the quality of Conor McCormack and Damien Dolan is huge. Also had 3 other players come off injured. The younger Baker is a classy player. Huge game for Caulry in 2 weeks again Tyrrellspass" Every time The Downs tried to make a comeback rally, St.Lomans kicked on again. Tj Cox was also outstanding. It was a very enjoyable game. Niall Mitchell couldn't be handled and the high ball in should have been used in the first half, from looking at the problems it caused St.Lomans in the 2nd half. Luke Loughlin looks out on his feet. Lomans bottled him up. The bench for St. Lomans drove everything on again just when it looked like a glimmer of hope for The Downs, but when you the likes of Fola, Foy and Regan coming in when teams are tired it's going to cause all sorts of problems. Heslin and Dempsey to return. Would not like to pick that team. The Downs need to improve… and fast! Edman78 (Westmeath) - Posts: 100 - 25/06/2023 10:07:33 2489022 Link
Replying To westmeathgaa11: "In fairness to Ballycomoyle I wouldn't call it a poor leave season, have won every game in their league bar a league final. On their day with a full selection of hurlers available they will trouble most in this championship" Don't right Josephs off just yet ! fireplace69 (Westmeath) - Posts: 23 - 25/06/2023 10:36:26 2489034 Link
Replying To Claretandblue: "Hype? Hardly considering they're not championship favourites. Complacency maybe as Ballycomoyle have had a poor season in the league and were operating two divisions below Joseph's. The Joseph's full back Line was too open in opening twenty mins. Ballycomoyle went for goals often and took them well" You obviously haven't looked at much media regarding the junior championship. The newspapers have them either as favourites, or second favourites depending on who's speaking. Same with the podcast, and if you look back through the forum many people are tipping them. I would say that is what you call hype. Having said that I think Joes will bounce back and win their remaining group games and get to at least a semi final. westmeathman99 (Westmeath) - Posts: 125 - 25/06/2023 12:03:00 2489057 Link
Hype is for spectators and pundits. My point was that the team and management surely did not buy into it considering their recent championship credentials. They haven't been beaten finalists or that close recently, something obviously derailed them as Ballycomoyle won easily and the game was over within 20 mins. That might work in Joseph's favour throughout the competition as they will qualify for the knockout stages. Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 2152 - 25/06/2023 13:59:43 2489093 Link
Early stages yet but Loman's win and display last night has them rightly as firm favourites. Minus Peter Foy, Kelvin Reilly, Fola Aroyinde, John Heslin, Shane Dempsey and Kevin Regan and still comfortable winners. Their strength in depth is super. Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 2152 - 25/06/2023 14:07:22 2489101 Link
Replying To Claretandblue: "Early stages yet but Loman's win and display last night has them rightly as firm favourites. Minus Peter Foy, Kelvin Reilly, Fola Aroyinde, John Heslin, Shane Dempsey and Kevin Regan and still comfortable winners. Their strength in depth is super." Fola and Foy came on yesterday Bettyboo22 (Westmeath) - Posts: 108 - 25/06/2023 14:46:57 2489117 Link
That old cliche about "goals win games" was never as more evident as it was in Mullingar yesterday evening.While St.Lomans were probably the better side over the 60+ minutes scoring 4 goals was huge and they dealt with all The Downs threw at them late on handily enough-also Lomans bench very strong and have to be clear favourites to win this championship. Both Kinnegad and Caulry had 10 scores but 4 of the Kinnegad were goals..They are a very strong,super fit team and ran at and through Caulry with ease at times.But Caulry missed 4 clear-simple even goal chances-they hit the crossbar 2 times and had a couple of these gone in this game could have been a lot closer.The loss of Dolan-McCormack -Doyle and Connaughton was huge for Caulry and a bad injury to young Cloonan yesterday will not help their cause. Bruno@1 (Westmeath) - Posts: 257 - 25/06/2023 15:49:34 2489133 Link
Interesting that Moate, Tang and Shandonagh all got wins this weekend who would've predicted that before the games. This group could be quite tight Interms of quarter final spots and relegation. Midlandsman (Westmeath) - Posts: 40 - 25/06/2023 20:58:58 2489296 Link
Replying To Midlandsman: "Interesting that Moate, Tang and Shandonagh all got wins this weekend who would've predicted that before the games. This group could be quite tight Interms of quarter final spots and relegation." Was in Moate. The Shamrocks/Tang game was dire. Awful stuff to watch. 2 very poor teams for Senior standard. The second game was at least a bit better. You certainly wouldn't pick out a County Player from all 4 teams though. Shandonagh Full Forward kicked some lovely scores but other than that.... Meridian (Westmeath) - Posts: 676 - 26/06/2023 10:12:53 2489407 Link
An interesting weekend in club football. In the senior, Lomans again look like the team to beat. Getting over the line without a few big names. The Downs will be there or there abouts as well as Kinnegad. The Killucan/Tyrellspass game was a poor affair. Killucan missed a lot and Tpass just having enough to get over the line there too. Huge upsets in the lower half. It will be very close with relegation/promotion in that group with every team looking capable of beating one another. Not as many shock results in the intermediate and junior. The loss for St Josephs may do them well in the long run. Kilbeggan with a routine win over St Pauls Lomans and Shamrocks with good results and a bad loss for Garrycastle. MTP looked very poor vs Bal. Coyne, Duncan and Kelly are huge losses there. Multy will be dissappointed with the result vs Maryland (who will be delighted). Tubberclair and Rosemount the teams to beat in the top group possibly? soreknee (Westmeath) - Posts: 166 - 26/06/2023 10:23:54 2489413 Link