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Poor attendance yesterday? You obviously weren't in Cusack Park to make such a statement. It's the second best competition for senior footballers to win in the county and gives a club significant momentum and confidence. Of course county players should be allowed to play, it's not as if they haven't been training 3-4 times a week so the rest argument doesn't hold up. They trained in Athlone IT recently one Saturday morning from 10.00 to 1.15. Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 2144 - 12/06/2023 10:59:01 2485749 Link 1 |
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Fair play to Kinnegad on their win but forcing Lomans to play without their better players makes a farce of the league and actually some managers/teams treat it as a warm up for the real business-the championship.Also well done to Athlone who should go well this year Bruno@1 (Westmeath) - Posts: 257 - 12/06/2023 12:37:29 2485803 Link 1 |
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Have the full schedule of games been released for the championship? Each team's opposition from Rounds 2 to 5? Edman78 (Westmeath) - Posts: 100 - 13/06/2023 10:48:57 2486115 Link 0 |
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Clubs received match schedule approx 4-5 weeks ago according to club Secretary Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 2144 - 13/06/2023 13:57:15 2486202 Link 1 |
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Just dates and venues to be confirmed
Mountlin (Westmeath) - Posts: 59 - 13/06/2023 15:48:15 2486244 Link 0 |
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It's ridiculous clubs don't have fixtures it's very simple send them out with the provision if Westmeath qualify they won't be on players need to know as do mgt to plan their week leading into it a lot of players have work etc
jiminycricket (Offaly) - Posts: 32 - 13/06/2023 16:50:39 2486266 Link 1 |
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He told you the secrataries have them.They are hardly going to announce what ifs to the public.
jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1699 - 13/06/2023 19:26:05 2486314 Link 0 |
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The fixture situation in Westmeath is a fiasco and describing it as such is kind. ondeball (Westmeath) - Posts: 122 - 14/06/2023 09:11:39 2486352 Link 2 |
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Club championship predictions Senior , Intermediate, junior winners? fireplace69 (Westmeath) - Posts: 23 - 14/06/2023 09:54:15 2486354 Link 1 |
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Surely the county board's job is to provide as many meaningful games as possible? The recent structures provide that. There are no midweek games scheduled this year, players train hard and surely deserve more than 3 championship matches. The league finals without county players is the decision of the senior football management, not board's fault. There's nothing stopping any player planning holidays or weekends away, more difficult for dual players but not impossible, clubs have 5 championship fixtures in both codes so players entitled to miss a game if they choose to. It's a hobby, not a job. That also applies to fixture makers too, they're doing voluntary work in their own time. Ask Keith Quinn or Brendan Shaw about time they put in weekly and you'd appreciate their efforts. Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 2144 - 14/06/2023 10:45:17 2486377 Link 0 |
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It is a difficult 3x Championships to call... more open than ever. Lots of clubs without players who have left for the year/on J1... so squad depth will be a factor! Senior: The obvious is league form, but Kinnegad have put in a long year already... will they still be in the hunt in September Winner - Lomans. A a new manager in Dowdall at the helm will give a fresh push.... Loads of county talent to come back and they seem to have more depth this year. WIth the firepower they will be hard beaten. Dark horses/possible: K'gad an obvious choice (strong management of course...) and dont underestimate Athlone this yr (although they may be loosing some key players). The downs dont look to have the drive this year... but they might build momentum through champ. Group B in Snr is v tough to call... Athlone and Shamrocks both moving well ... but a v tough grp to call. Intermediate: A minefield as usual... Winner: R'bridge. Apparently a good professional setup and big enough squad (although possibly a couple of big players may be missing). Won 5 out of 5 last year in the groups and moved v well. Assuming they get there... will they get through knockout games. Possibles/Dark Horses: T'Clair . If Whitaker back to his best... they will be hard stopped also. Between them and the bridge. R'mount coming down are a bit unknown. Seem to be in a bit of a re-build phase. Grp B looks to be M'pass and Malachys as stand out this year. M'pass never far away and new mgt team. without Coyle though, who is a great player. On their day, most int teams can beat each other in grp A intermediate. Jnr: Also v difficult. Is this the year one of the Snr teams do it? Multy looked like early winners last year... but this year none of the 1st teams look as strong. Bun possibly missed their chance at this stage. K'beggan seem to be in a bit of a rebuild. winner: Shamrocks/Lomans with squad size ...? Maybe. K'beggan in with a shout Laker1500 (Westmeath) - Posts: 20 - 14/06/2023 14:23:51 2486436 Link 0 |
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1. Only giving county players possibly less than a week is one thing for leagues, but a bit unfair for champ 2. Its tough on players/managers to organise. 4 or 5 option sent out earlier in the year, so it is possible to work out 'free' weeks if not a dual player, but 3., everyone waiting until the sunday before is v late for certainty of which day/time clubs are playing. Its to not 'assume' WH will be beaten by Tyrone ... which is a fair enough... but its v short for lads who work on saturdays and students who work in shops and the likes at weekends to organise... Loads of games in WH (in comparrison to Offaly or Longford for example)... so its a really good league and Champ and a tough job in WH fixtures to keep everyone happy I could imagine. Fair play to everyone involved there. it is a bit thankless. Just earlier certainty needed ... Laker1500 (Westmeath) - Posts: 20 - 14/06/2023 14:30:18 2486440 Link 1 |
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Lets hope that club championship is delayed by another couple of weeks and WH beat Tyrone... A mountain to climb... but 2x good performances so far... is there an upset on the cards. best of luck to them Laker1500 (Westmeath) - Posts: 20 - 14/06/2023 14:34:54 2486444 Link 1 |
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Lomans will win out, the depth they have is scary. I taught they woud beat Kinnegad easily but heard they had tough session day before. Dowdall is looking at bigger picture, wouldnt read much into Kinnegads win. The Downs will give it lash again and Caulry maybe as my my dark horses, Baker, Maguire and Mc Cormack not many clubs have three players playing inter county senior football now . Caulry and Killucan will pull off few shocks in the senior lakecounty90 (Westmeath) - Posts: 130 - 14/06/2023 18:15:42 2486499 Link 1 |
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kinnegad were better simple as that . we can't always get everything right
Bettyboo22 (Westmeath) - Posts: 108 - 14/06/2023 19:26:47 2486510 Link 0 |
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Lomans depth is crazy? Even when Lomans have a full team they are carrying 3/4 players who probably aren't good enough. I think last weekend showed their depth isn't that great losing to a well drilled but average Kinnegad team Temple56 (Westmeath) - Posts: 547 - 15/06/2023 11:46:00 2486620 Link 0 |
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Another interesting match Sunday. We have been very competitive v armagh and galway, which was brilliant to see. Sam Duncan will be a big loss Sunday if unavailable. Is there any other injuries. What I have noticed in the most recent games is westmeath are a bit behind the top counties physically and in conditioning, but the will hopefully come, tactically and ability wise, we are right up there. Outside the 2nd half performance v louth and down, westmeath are definitely going in the right direction.. best wishes to dessie and players the weekend. Upforthegame23 (Westmeath) - Posts: 144 - 15/06/2023 11:46:56 2486621 Link 0 |
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They fielded in a League final and were beaten by a full strength Kinnegad team by 4 points without eight players that will be available for selection in the first round , not to shabby either
Thechick (Westmeath) - Posts: 268 - 15/06/2023 13:00:57 2486646 Link 0 |
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Always rely on Chick to defend his club despite his protests that he's not Loman's!!! Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 2144 - 15/06/2023 13:39:18 2486660 Link 1 |
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Interesting post. Westmeath were lauded for their conditioning last year. Age profile if anything is against them in that regard; the better players are that bit older - another year deeper into the other side of their peak years. Tactically I think they're playing copycat in general play; slow build-up & bodies behind the ball. That's the general, easy-to-see stuff. However, I think they are miles behind tactically in the finer details. Kickouts are a huge problem when pressed, the forward play doesn't have the same movement; screens, backdoor cuts, line-breaking runs etc. that I notice the top teams are at. Defensively, although bodies are there, there isn't the same awareness of when to trap, when to squeeze out and most concerningly how to track runs - when they are identified, picked up and then when they can be abandoned again to resume the defensive shape.
fizzygravy (USA) - Posts: 165 - 15/06/2023 14:14:42 2486676 Link 1 |