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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Who's Whelehan? Ryan Jones not a Loman's regular and now he's county material. Peter Foy a sub for Longford, prob 11th best team in Leinster."
Ryan Jones a Lomans regular clear you dont go to many games as he permenant fixture in team. Stupid logic rating individual players based on county rankings never heard that before. Any county player worth his salt will stand out in club championship and Foy has probably been Lomans best player since he moved in

lakecounty90 (Westmeath) - Posts: 62 - 07/06/2023 10:39:10    2484673

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Who's Whelehan? Ryan Jones not a Loman's regular and now he's county material. Peter Foy a sub for Longford, prob 11th best team in Leinster."
I presume he means David Whelan, not Whelehan! Whelan was part of the Westmeath squad early in the year but injury forced him back to his club! Ryan jones played for London for a number of seasons and Peter Foys county resume is highly impressive. He was a Longford regular for over 10 years. He's 36 years old now and still involved in the county set up. Speaks volumes of the caliber of player St. Lomans have. Shane Dempsey and TJ Cox will play in the final. But I would be surprised if others are allowed. This very same team avoided relegation on the last day last year, and now they contest the league final so really it's nothing to do with the players but the the mindset perhaps. Losing last years championship final might have awoken the St. Lomans Beast. Looking forward to Sunday.

Edman78 (Westmeath) - Posts: 100 - 07/06/2023 11:01:49    2484683

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Replying To lakecounty90:  "Ryan Jones a Lomans regular clear you dont go to many games as he permenant fixture in team. Stupid logic rating individual players based on county rankings never heard that before. Any county player worth his salt will stand out in club championship and Foy has probably been Lomans best player since he moved in"
This causes lots of aggro but with all the talk of transfers into Lomans… who has been Lomans best transfer over the years? There hasn't been many. I don't think there has been many as impactful as Foy. Ken Casey was another stand out. Those two players are the only ones who have lived up to the hype as far as top class players. Who am I missing?

Edman78 (Westmeath) - Posts: 100 - 07/06/2023 11:44:34    2484702

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Replying To Edman78:  "This causes lots of aggro but with all the talk of transfers into Lomans… who has been Lomans best transfer over the years? There hasn't been many. I don't think there has been many as impactful as Foy. Ken Casey was another stand out. Those two players are the only ones who have lived up to the hype as far as top class players. Who am I missing?"
No there hasnt been many transfers as people make out to be. Think jealousy has lot to do with it and what Lomans have achieved as best team in county in last ten years. 6 senior titles and 7 to come this year with Dowdall now making his mark as manager

lakecounty90 (Westmeath) - Posts: 62 - 07/06/2023 12:16:11    2484712

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Replying To Temple56:  "Two things I can't understand re club championship:

1. Football championship is due to start the week after our footballers get knocked out of the All Ireland series. So at the moment the most likely date is the weekend of the 24th of June. That does not give clubs enough time to prepare for games with county players and it's not fair on our county players. Why can't the hurling championship be played the week after our footballers get knocked out? County Hurlers have been knocked out of championship two weeks now.

2. Can't understand how a full list of day/time/venue for each club game isn't released. Players have holidays/stags/weddings and other events to attend during the summer but can't make plans as day/time/venue of games aren't put out until 7 days before games. For example I see Meath have announced day/time/venue for every game of a their Senior, intermediate, Junior, Junior B and Junior C championships on their social media's. I understand this takes huge work for fixture secretary but it would mean a lot for players, managers and supporters who can book events around games."
Stop talking sense Temple!

Wmeath2 (Westmeath) - Posts: 176 - 07/06/2023 13:17:36    2484734

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Replying To lakecounty90:  "No there hasnt been many transfers as people make out to be. Think jealousy has lot to do with it and what Lomans have achieved as best team in county in last ten years. 6 senior titles and 7 to come this year with Dowdall now making his mark as manager"
They are a Great Team but then they bring players from outside I personally think it must be hard on younger players not getting their game in the club because they bring in outsiders . I think it's great to see teams winning that brought players all the way from underage up to senior and Win Huge pride in that for clubs

Bettyboo22 (Westmeath) - Posts: 108 - 07/06/2023 15:26:39    2484775

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Replying To Edman78:  "I presume he means David Whelan, not Whelehan! Whelan was part of the Westmeath squad early in the year but injury forced him back to his club! Ryan jones played for London for a number of seasons and Peter Foys county resume is highly impressive. He was a Longford regular for over 10 years. He's 36 years old now and still involved in the county set up. Speaks volumes of the caliber of player St. Lomans have. Shane Dempsey and TJ Cox will play in the final. But I would be surprised if others are allowed. This very same team avoided relegation on the last day last year, and now they contest the league final so really it's nothing to do with the players but the the mindset perhaps. Losing last years championship final might have awoken the St. Lomans Beast. Looking forward to Sunday."
They should let them play they did a few weeks back .

Bettyboo22 (Westmeath) - Posts: 108 - 07/06/2023 15:56:57    2484785

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Really and truely how can you be expected to play a final without your best players able to play for you.County players are generally recognised as being the best because thats why they are selected foe inter-county so why should their club suffer in a final.Just let them play and if one gets injured surely an inter county panel of 30 + can cope.

Bruno@1 (Westmeath) - Posts: 170 - 07/06/2023 17:56:07    2484815

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Any idea if club football will go ahead on June 24th if WMeath knocked out? They don't play until 4 o clock Sunday week which, if beat, leaves very little time for fixtures to be released particularly as some games are bound to be the Friday night leaving lads only one training session with the club.

TigerWoods90 (Westmeath) - Posts: 142 - 08/06/2023 13:54:08    2484931

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Predictions for the League finals this weekend??

Bettyboo22 (Westmeath) - Posts: 108 - 08/06/2023 14:38:53    2484939

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Replying To TigerWoods90:  "Any idea if club football will go ahead on June 24th if WMeath knocked out? They don't play until 4 o clock Sunday week which, if beat, leaves very little time for fixtures to be released particularly as some games are bound to be the Friday night leaving lads only one training session with the club."
ye I heard if they loose they will start 24th

Bettyboo22 (Westmeath) - Posts: 108 - 08/06/2023 15:03:22    2484941

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Replying To TigerWoods90:  "Any idea if club football will go ahead on June 24th if WMeath knocked out? They don't play until 4 o clock Sunday week which, if beat, leaves very little time for fixtures to be released particularly as some games are bound to be the Friday night leaving lads only one training session with the club."
The lads involved with the county have been training since mid december-non stop 3 times and sometimes 4 with gym sessions.You can hardly expect them to go straight into club football as surely some will have planned and rightly so -to take a break and go on holidays if beaten by Tyrone.They have a life outside football!!

Bruno@1 (Westmeath) - Posts: 170 - 08/06/2023 15:14:22    2484943

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As somebody involved with a club it's far from simple, Westmeath most likely will be knocked out Sunday and clubs will be told Monday they've a fixture Friday potentially. The sensible thing would be a gap of a week but that would be too sensible failing that they surely can make the fixtures in the event Westmeath are eliminated.

jiminycricket (Offaly) - Posts: 16 - 08/06/2023 15:26:56    2484945

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Replying To Bruno@1:  "Really and truely how can you be expected to play a final without your best players able to play for you.County players are generally recognised as being the best because thats why they are selected foe inter-county so why should their club suffer in a final.Just let them play and if one gets injured surely an inter county panel of 30 + can cope."
I would imagine they will be allowed play! Luke loughlin & co were allowed to play for the downs last year as was Giles for kinnegad. Tpass and moate lads played div 2 final too. Think league finals last year were a week before Tailteann cup semi final or final? Will be left up to players I'd imagine

Westmeath213 (Westmeath) - Posts: 332 - 08/06/2023 15:48:48    2484953

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Replying To Bettyboo22:  "Predictions for the League finals this weekend??"
Div 1- Lomans by 5+
Div 2- athlone +3
Div 3- shamrocks beat malachys in group fixture so I think they will do it again- by 4
Div 4- st Joseph's

Westmeath213 (Westmeath) - Posts: 332 - 08/06/2023 15:52:06    2484954

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Replying To Bruno@1:  "The lads involved with the county have been training since mid december-non stop 3 times and sometimes 4 with gym sessions.You can hardly expect them to go straight into club football as surely some will have planned and rightly so -to take a break and go on holidays if beaten by Tyrone.They have a life outside football!!"
Last years championship started six days after Tailteann Cup final, some clubs actually played two games in space of three or four days. As Temple said why cant the hurling championships go first??

A_Chairde (Westmeath) - Posts: 177 - 08/06/2023 15:57:45    2484957

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We also have approx 800 club footballers who would like championship action to start, the club set up doesn't revolve around 30 inter county players. The first weekend is football, then hurling alternately until championship quarter finals, there's no free weekend according to fixture planner sent out to clubs, if we don't start immediately we face midweek games which proved an issue last year. The clubs have minimum 5 fixtures so a player missing on hols for a match is bearable, The Downs are missing Niall Mitchell for next two months as he's in America but our club members not bleating about it. He'll be back for last round, Lough Lene Gaels missing Jogger likewise but have to cope, plenty of lads travelling or on J1s, a lad on hols is the least of a club's worries.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1506 - 08/06/2023 16:07:52    2484961

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Replying To Westmeath213:  "I would imagine they will be allowed play! Luke loughlin & co were allowed to play for the downs last year as was Giles for kinnegad. Tpass and moate lads played div 2 final too. Think league finals last year were a week before Tailteann cup semi final or final? Will be left up to players I'd imagine"
Well able to play no bother to them

Bettyboo22 (Westmeath) - Posts: 108 - 08/06/2023 16:26:53    2484973

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "We also have approx 800 club footballers who would like championship action to start, the club set up doesn't revolve around 30 inter county players. The first weekend is football, then hurling alternately until championship quarter finals, there's no free weekend according to fixture planner sent out to clubs, if we don't start immediately we face midweek games which proved an issue last year. The clubs have minimum 5 fixtures so a player missing on hols for a match is bearable, The Downs are missing Niall Mitchell for next two months as he's in America but our club members not bleating about it. He'll be back for last round, Lough Lene Gaels missing Jogger likewise but have to cope, plenty of lads travelling or on J1s, a lad on hols is the least of a club's worries."
It's not only about giving the inter county players a rest but also letting club managers get used to county players and practice game plans. For example if you are Shane Curran you wouldn't have has access to Baker, Maguire and McCormack all year and before the 1st round of championship you will only get 1 training session with them.

Hurling week should have been 1st to give football clubs 2 weeks to train with county players!

Common sense.

Very few of the inter county footballers play hurling. I'd say 2/3 at most.

Temple56 (Westmeath) - Posts: 397 - 08/06/2023 16:27:33    2484975

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "We also have approx 800 club footballers who would like championship action to start, the club set up doesn't revolve around 30 inter county players. The first weekend is football, then hurling alternately until championship quarter finals, there's no free weekend according to fixture planner sent out to clubs, if we don't start immediately we face midweek games which proved an issue last year. The clubs have minimum 5 fixtures so a player missing on hols for a match is bearable, The Downs are missing Niall Mitchell for next two months as he's in America but our club members not bleating about it. He'll be back for last round, Lough Lene Gaels missing Jogger likewise but have to cope, plenty of lads travelling or on J1s, a lad on hols is the least of a club's worries."
what club players want is clarity and to be properly prepared not told monday they could be playing friday, lads have to be able to plan around things like work and the current state of affairs isnt helping.

jiminycricket (Offaly) - Posts: 16 - 08/06/2023 16:47:36    2484987

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