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Replying To Fionn:  "That is for sure....
Our best player, retiring but off playing GAA in USA for the Summer doesnt quell the talk tbh.

1 more game for us, let's see how we perform v Derry.
But not putting back to back good performances together is a major issue."
Dublin and Derry could draw and both qualify if Armagh beat Galway by 6.

Armagh probably play subs so unlikely but either way Dublin and Derry are dead men walking.

Have the wake and lick the wounds!

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3576 - 03/06/2025 00:11:17    2614457

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Replying To realdub:  "Because I don't like them. The goal has been diminished, the mark is exactly what the game DOESN'T need.
The game is now being structured around the 2 pointer.
I'm an old schooler, remember that.
I preferred when it was all hell for leather.
Sorry."
Not a fan of the two pointer but it has brought back the skill of longer range kicking but the problem is years ago it was anyone who went for it, today its still only one or two, max three who try it and its engineered to get the ball to them. Perhaps that will change and more players will become better at it, however if the stats show there is no improvement in the spread of players doing it then it hasn't achieved its aim and should be dropped but we need to give it another year or two.
Getting rid of the fist pass point may encourage more goals. However Dublin didn't score goals because the players didn't play heads up football and look at the opportunities. Kilkenny is still playing under the old rules and slows the ball down too much. The new rules should have suited Dublin as they loved to score goals on the break. What is it now 4 goals in 4 games. Costello had the beating of his man all day but the ball wasn't getting in quick enough to him. You can blame the players for the mistakes on the field but to I think other teams have tactically adapted better to the new rules and that's management.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1987 - 03/06/2025 07:03:04    2614462

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Time to park last Sunday and get back on the Horse.If we had our shooting boots with us It could have been different. Some of our better players wont be as bad again.I never saw Kilkenny so quiet but Costello although he missed a few had a very good game and Paddy Small was good too.Bugler did nt let us down either.

brayballer (Wicklow) - Posts: 156 - 03/06/2025 09:22:36    2614471

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Replying To Saynothing:  "Are they the same new rules that were there when Dublin beat Galway? No excuses, Armagh were better all over the field."
Some of the new rules are pure gick.

brayballer (Wicklow) - Posts: 156 - 03/06/2025 09:38:59    2614476

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Replying To Fionn:  "Where do I start....

We scored 19 points but had 17 wides - shocking shooting.
Early in the game we had 13 scores from 30 attempts.

As for 3 consecutive breaches of the 3 man up rule - unforgiveable.
Handing Armagh scores. We couldnt believe it on the Hill.

Anyone who thought or still thinks Bugler is our main man, is off their rocker.
A blind man can see - Con is.

On the positives - Lee, John, EOD back is a major plus.
Hopefully Murch, Murph and of course Con is back in 2 weeks.
I can see Armagh resting some players v Galway, so a defeat v Derry and we are out.

The lack of quality in depth is glaring at this stage.

Bar the shooting, I though we could have actually won this game. We had so many chances in the 2nd half.
For an underdog, we actually played ok, but made far too many mistakes.

Based on performances and results to far, there are just 3 teams in line for SAM, and for me, one of them looks well ahead of the 2 Ulster teams.

I know Dessie is nursing players back, but it is all or nothing v Derry now, in the next game.
I think the couple of weeks should hopefully get them right.

Finally, I know I have said it before but this 2 points from a free, is ridiculous.
2 pointer should only be from play, and even then, it should be from outside the 45, imo.
That and the forward mark rule need to be scrapped at year end.
They should have tweaked those 2, after the league.

Anyway, roll on Sat week - I reckon in Breffni Park."
A bit tough on Bugler Fionn.Bugler is a huge player for us and when he missing look how poor Dubs can be.Kikenny is a superstar and was brutal the last day and Bugler was still good.I agree on the rules though. Pure Muck.

brayballer (Wicklow) - Posts: 156 - 03/06/2025 09:46:58    2614483

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Replying To brayballer:  "A bit tough on Bugler Fionn.Bugler is a huge player for us and when he missing look how poor Dubs can be.Kikenny is a superstar and was brutal the last day and Bugler was still good.I agree on the rules though. Pure Muck."
Nothing against the man - but he is Not our main man. Con is.
He has a great engine but has not got the impact, skill, composure, or influence that Con does.
Sean is in top third of our team but not the main man. That is all I am saying.

Anyway, massive game for the lads on Sat week now.
Hopefully Con is back. We missed him greatly.
Our lads cant shoot as badly again.... or can they... ;o(
Need to get goals - definitely not scoring enough of them.

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 4279 - 03/06/2025 13:36:21    2614558

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Replying To zinny:  "Not a fan of the two pointer but it has brought back the skill of longer range kicking but the problem is years ago it was anyone who went for it, today its still only one or two, max three who try it and its engineered to get the ball to them. Perhaps that will change and more players will become better at it, however if the stats show there is no improvement in the spread of players doing it then it hasn't achieved its aim and should be dropped but we need to give it another year or two.
Getting rid of the fist pass point may encourage more goals. However Dublin didn't score goals because the players didn't play heads up football and look at the opportunities. Kilkenny is still playing under the old rules and slows the ball down too much. The new rules should have suited Dublin as they loved to score goals on the break. What is it now 4 goals in 4 games. Costello had the beating of his man all day but the ball wasn't getting in quick enough to him. You can blame the players for the mistakes on the field but to I think other teams have tactically adapted better to the new rules and that's management."
"I think other teams have tactically adapted better to the new rules and that's management"

A very valid point right there......

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 4279 - 03/06/2025 13:38:56    2614560

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Replying To Fionn:  "Nothing against the man - but he is Not our main man. Con is.
He has a great engine but has not got the impact, skill, composure, or influence that Con does.
Sean is in top third of our team but not the main man. That is all I am saying.

Anyway, massive game for the lads on Sat week now.
Hopefully Con is back. We missed him greatly.
Our lads cant shoot as badly again.... or can they... ;o(
Need to get goals - definitely not scoring enough of them."
Con is a huge loss for scoring but I really think Bugler is our main man and makes us tick. Without Bugler we are totally goosed.We def need goals. The Northern teams seem to have taken to the new rules better than say Dublin and Kerry but Kerry can score goals and we struggling there at mo .Maybe Con s return will help but with right possession Costello and Paddy Small will score goals. There was an awkward breeze last day so No our shooters wont be as bad again.

brayballer (Wicklow) - Posts: 156 - 03/06/2025 14:53:03    2614588

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Replying To brayballer:  "Con is a huge loss for scoring but I really think Bugler is our main man and makes us tick. Without Bugler we are totally goosed.We def need goals. The Northern teams seem to have taken to the new rules better than say Dublin and Kerry but Kerry can score goals and we struggling there at mo .Maybe Con s return will help but with right possession Costello and Paddy Small will score goals. There was an awkward breeze last day so No our shooters wont be as bad again."
Derry game fixed for Newry on Sat week @ 6.30pm

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 4279 - 03/06/2025 18:17:52    2614653

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Replying To DUBJOHN:  "You'd know all about that !"
The followers of Dublin hurling know all about it too! We've experienced both. When you add them all together, football, hurling, camogie and clubs we haven't done too badly compared with many other counties.

Crashingwaves (Galway) - Posts: 174 - 04/06/2025 00:35:06    2614716

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Would it be fair to say that the fact Dublin spent 10 years working the ball well inside the arc to score what they would call a high percentage shot, has hindered their 2 point attempts, particularly the older guys like kilkenny Howard etc. They don't look comfortable taking them on at all and the stats would back that up. Just a theory

southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 1002 - 04/06/2025 07:26:27    2614724

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Replying To southmeathgael:  "Would it be fair to say that the fact Dublin spent 10 years working the ball well inside the arc to score what they would call a high percentage shot, has hindered their 2 point attempts, particularly the older guys like kilkenny Howard etc. They don't look comfortable taking them on at all and the stats would back that up. Just a theory"
Yes it would be fair to say .

superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2843 - 04/06/2025 09:36:19    2614743

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Anyone know where I can access archived Dublin senior inter county football and hurling results from 1980-2024, specifically NFL Games? There are some historical details but incomplete. Thanks

Henno1981 (Dublin) - Posts: 1 - 04/06/2025 11:05:15    2614760

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Any recommendations on a place to grab a beer and/or a bite to eat in Newry?

dubdec99 (Dublin) - Posts: 184 - 04/06/2025 15:03:11    2614875

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Replying To dubdec99:  "Any recommendations on a place to grab a beer and/or a bite to eat in Newry?"
CWC social club in centre of town, cracking beer garden and cheap booze, no food unfortunately. Canal Court or Shelbourne for grub, plenty of bars/eating houses though. Anyone getting the train there's normally buses to take you into town.

sean og (Armagh) - Posts: 1073 - 04/06/2025 15:25:55    2614888

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Replying To southmeathgael:  "Would it be fair to say that the fact Dublin spent 10 years working the ball well inside the arc to score what they would call a high percentage shot, has hindered their 2 point attempts, particularly the older guys like kilkenny Howard etc. They don't look comfortable taking them on at all and the stats would back that up. Just a theory"
17 wides most from inside the arc tells the tale. A few years back we had Mannion, Flynn, Connolly, Rock all sharp shooters and deadly accurate from outside. Now we have two, Con and Paddy Small. Con was injured on Sun and Paddy was hit and miss. We don't have enough real shooters who are consistent. So yes I think the art of long range point taking was drilled out of them over the past few years and now we've been found wanting.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4746 - 04/06/2025 16:33:38    2614907

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Replying To Henno1981:  "Anyone know where I can access archived Dublin senior inter county football and hurling results from 1980-2024, specifically NFL Games? There are some historical details but incomplete. Thanks"
wikipedia

kerry4sam25 (Kerry) - Posts: 21 - 05/06/2025 10:18:06    2615008

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Replying To Joxer:  "17 wides most from inside the arc tells the tale. A few years back we had Mannion, Flynn, Connolly, Rock all sharp shooters and deadly accurate from outside. Now we have two, Con and Paddy Small. Con was injured on Sun and Paddy was hit and miss. We don't have enough real shooters who are consistent. So yes I think the art of long range point taking was drilled out of them over the past few years and now we've been found wanting."
Very fair points.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6181 - 05/06/2025 14:22:12    2615103

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