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Replying To Yondu: "Takes two to tango and the 2014 All-Ireland final was very much that as Kerry had a defensive strategy in place themselves. Was a single point between the sides the a goalkeeping error swung the contest." Kerry won by 3 points but I know what you're saying, I don't think we were overly defensive that day we just kept our defenders in their positions and didn't get sucked in to Donegals counter attacking game, also we took on a lot of shots from outside the 45. KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 10/11/2021 19:31:58 2389060 Link
Replying To Saynothing: "Glad to see Jim seen sense, who in their right mind would get involved with a a AFL scout and a team that's been Finitoed for years." One sure thing were going to get out of Tyrone ... A mouth piece germac (Down) - Posts: 535 - 10/11/2021 19:54:02 2389063 Link
Replying To bloodyban: "He was a disaster with the soccer coaching. For me he did good work with Donegal for a few years and has been living off that ever since. He hasn't evolved his coaching to any extent. He's a bit like Davy Fitz. He ll gee em up for a year and then he's spent. Similar style of play to Davy too. Packing defences..and a limited short passing game that ultimately fails in the white heat" Ridiculous post. Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 10/11/2021 20:11:50 2389064 Link
Replying To FiorDunach: "Phew!! Saved by the skin of our teeth. Onwards and upwards" Well given that you lost to Donegal by 2-25 to 1-12 in this year's Ulster Championship the only way is up. You could be doing with Jim McGuinness. Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 10/11/2021 20:14:43 2389066 Link
Imagine some posters saying a county like Down woulnt wanting Mc Guinness because it's against their "traditional ways". Tradition got you hammered by 16 points this year. Ask the players in Down if they would want him there, think they would. On a side note, it's not just defensive stability he would bring, we weren't too bad attacking either. TheRock2121 (Donegal) - Posts: 1142 - 10/11/2021 20:26:54 2389069 Link
Replying To TheRock2121: "Imagine some posters saying a county like Down woulnt wanting Mc Guinness because it's against their "traditional ways". Tradition got you hammered by 16 points this year. Ask the players in Down if they would want him there, think they would. On a side note, it's not just defensive stability he would bring, we weren't too bad attacking either." Think you are wrong! FiorDunach (Down) - Posts: 72 - 11/11/2021 12:17:11 2389109 Link
Replying To KingdomBoy1: "Kerry won by 3 points but I know what you're saying, I don't think we were overly defensive that day we just kept our defenders in their positions and didn't get sucked in to Donegals counter attacking game, also we took on a lot of shots from outside the 45." Fitzmaurice set up in the best way he could to deal with Donegal and he was absolutely right to do so, in terms of giving his team the best chance to win the game. However, it was an awful match to watch. The only thing that kept it interesting was the fact that it was relatively close the whole way through. James O'Donoghue who was electric that year, barely moving anywhere near the Donegal goal summed it up. On the topic, I would be interested to see what Jim would bring as an intercounty manager now. The game has evolved quite a bit in the past 7 or 8 years. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2045 - 11/11/2021 13:53:29 2389126 Link
Replying To TheRock2121: "Imagine some posters saying a county like Down woulnt wanting Mc Guinness because it's against their "traditional ways". Tradition got you hammered by 16 points this year. Ask the players in Down if they would want him there, think they would. On a side note, it's not just defensive stability he would bring, we weren't too bad attacking either." I think the game could use more maverick managers like McGuinness, people who think outside the box. KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 11/11/2021 14:07:50 2389130 Link
Replying To KingdomBoy1: "Kerry won by 3 points but I know what you're saying, I don't think we were overly defensive that day we just kept our defenders in their positions and didn't get sucked in to Donegals counter attacking game, also we took on a lot of shots from outside the 45." Nobody remembers the quality, just the result. It was quite poor fare in 2014, to be honest! foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1925 - 11/11/2021 14:49:20 2389137 Link
Replying To germac: "One sure thing were going to get out of Tyrone ... A mouth piece" Green eyed monster has surfaced. Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2016 - 11/11/2021 15:19:43 2389142 Link
Isn't it amazing how many contributors from other counties profess to know what Down people want and how they think! FiorDunach (Down) - Posts: 72 - 11/11/2021 17:32:06 2389149 Link
Replying To Saynothing: "Green eyed monster has surfaced." Are you actually suggesting that Down is jealous of Tyrone. Dream on! FiorDunach (Down) - Posts: 72 - 11/11/2021 18:20:38 2389151 Link
Replying To foreveryoung: "Nobody remembers the quality, just the result. It was quite poor fare in 2014, to be honest!" Ya that's true. KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 11/11/2021 18:24:44 2389152 Link
Replying To FiorDunach: "Are you actually suggesting that Down is jealous of Tyrone. Dream on!" Your right, we're in dreamland. We live in the present, not the past. Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2016 - 12/11/2021 12:10:58 2389192 Link
Typical posts from .ppl on here that can't think for themselves and just listen to southern media approach to mcguinness instead of thinking for themselves. In 2011 he built a defensive structure to make dgl competitive and stop.leaking goals and develop a core strength, in winter of 11 he developed a very impressive attacking game plan that landed an all ireland just watch games v down, Kerry, cork and mayo some of best attacking play ever . Use all have a bit of knowledge on here to think for yourselves lads without listening to media who are mostly involved in lazy analysis marty234 (Donegal) - Posts: 158 - 12/11/2021 16:45:25 2389218 Link
Style of play is all well and good. Look at my own county. People say oh Mayo play great attacking off the cuff football. It has not got us Sam Maguire. If someone like McGuinness came along and had us playing ultra defensive and won us an all Ireland, I'd take that. Football is only fun if your winning. yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11236 - 12/11/2021 17:18:31 2389223 Link
Looks like Jim dodged a bullet. AudiMan (Donegal) - Posts: 648 - 12/11/2021 19:47:07 2389231 Link
Replying To yew_tree: "Style of play is all well and good. Look at my own county. People say oh Mayo play great attacking off the cuff football. It has not got us Sam Maguire. If someone like McGuinness came along and had us playing ultra defensive and won us an all Ireland, I'd take that. Football is only fun if your winning." There are 2 sides to gaelic football you either have the ball where you need an attacking game plan or you don't where you need a defensive game. Mcguinness won an all ireland because he developed 2 very strong sides to dgl game. Don't be listening to Dublin media men Dublin were most defensive of all teams that's why they won 6 all Ireland's I watched them In croker way 15 behind 45 on numerous occasions there wasn't a word from Sunday game analysts. Name me an all ireland winner yet with a terrible defence. All this agenda aboit shiite football towards mcguinness was a media spin and a but of jealousy against a man that has moved into bigger and better things than the gaa. Even look at his new proposal for new structure top class whereas the best the gaa could come up with was to give a team playing div 4 a better chance of making a quarter final than a team playing div 1. That proposal b was pathetic really marty234 (Donegal) - Posts: 158 - 13/11/2021 08:03:13 2389240 Link
Replying To yew_tree: "Style of play is all well and good. Look at my own county. People say oh Mayo play great attacking off the cuff football. It has not got us Sam Maguire. If someone like McGuinness came along and had us playing ultra defensive and won us an all Ireland, I'd take that. Football is only fun if your winning." There was great attacking in that Donegal team which people conveniently forget. Michael Murphy, Colm McFadden, the outlets of Lacey, McHugh and McGlynn. It takes the balance to win Sam. Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1321 - 13/11/2021 09:31:50 2389247 Link
Replying To marty234: "There are 2 sides to gaelic football you either have the ball where you need an attacking game plan or you don't where you need a defensive game. Mcguinness won an all ireland because he developed 2 very strong sides to dgl game. Don't be listening to Dublin media men Dublin were most defensive of all teams that's why they won 6 all Ireland's I watched them In croker way 15 behind 45 on numerous occasions there wasn't a word from Sunday game analysts. Name me an all ireland winner yet with a terrible defence. All this agenda aboit shiite football towards mcguinness was a media spin and a but of jealousy against a man that has moved into bigger and better things than the gaa. Even look at his new proposal for new structure top class whereas the best the gaa could come up with was to give a team playing div 4 a better chance of making a quarter final than a team playing div 1. That proposal b was pathetic really" Exactly, as they say in the NFL offence wins you games but defence wins you championships. KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 13/11/2021 10:34:37 2389254 Link