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Not above defending as Paddy worked on that a lot, we just struggled on getting balance right and with not having 2 domiment midfielders teams really pressed high on us and Paddys kickouts everybody knew were ball was been kicked and to who. The talent is in Down we just need the right management to get the buy in and by god if lads don't want to play under these 3 men then Down football is dead. I can't wait UP Down. Yourjoking (USA) - Posts: 706 - 10/11/2021 10:16:00 2388983 Link 0 |
Ya just read there that he's in as a coach with Clarke and Laverty so that makes more sense, I take it Jim will work on the defensive side of things so it could be a good mix and I hope it works out for all involved.
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 10/11/2021 10:41:04 2388987 Link 0 |
I'd be shocked if Jim McGuinness would play in a similar manner with Down now as he did with Donegal in the past. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4235 - 10/11/2021 10:54:52 2388991 Link 5 |
The 2014 final was Jim's last game in charge and that was the most dour defensive final in a long time. Jim's teams looked attack minded against a gung-ho Dublin in the semi final, when there was loads of space to counter attack into. I'm sure McGuiness is smart enough to know down will need a different approach to his old Donegal side. MayoDan (Mayo) - Posts: 420 - 10/11/2021 11:38:23 2388994 Link 0 |
Can you honestly tell me that Jim wasn't approached by bonner or the county board, I don't know if he was or wasn't. So what if he goes to down im only worried about my own county. Good luck to Jim if the story is true a man I have huge respect for. But I don't know about you but I'm not one for looking back. It's time to look forward surprised bonner didn't name his coach yet must be a reason. Watched a lot of club games this year not many catching the eye who could make the step up to county football what you think tirchonal 1. Would be very interested in your views on this.. finally the gaa I was brought up with was a totally amateur organisation but it saddens me the way it's going, the big money men are ruining it for everybody. The only people I want managing Donegal are Donegal people not mercenaries who go from county to county making big money. I'm sure every other county fans feel the same.
rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2410 - 10/11/2021 11:48:19 2388997 Link 0 |
This is a ridiculous take. "He hasn't evolved his coaching to any extent" ? How would you, or any of us know? He hasn't managed a GAA team since 2014. "He'll gee them up for a year and then he's spent" Jim himself maintains that his style can maybe only work in 4 year cycles. If Down win 3 Ulsters & an All Ireland in the next 4 years from nowhere then I'm sure they won't complain about that. Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9151 - 10/11/2021 12:37:24 2389005 Link 2 |
You're probably just sour about 2012 in fairness
Donaldtrump (Galway) - Posts: 252 - 10/11/2021 12:40:58 2389006 Link 1 |
Jim is not interested in going back to gaa. The man himself has said it. Don't believe everything you read.
rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2410 - 10/11/2021 13:26:40 2389014 Link 1 |
Glad to see Jim seen sense, who in their right mind would get involved with a a AFL scout and a team that's been Finitoed for years.
Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2016 - 10/11/2021 13:51:04 2389020 Link 1 |
Ah well it's all been something of nothing in the end, pity as I'd love to see the big man back in football. KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 10/11/2021 14:03:25 2389021 Link 2 |
In fairness he makes a valid point. Football is always evolving and we seem to be back at a more attacking style which is great. Maybe Jim has/will evolve too? The ultra defensive approach won't work anymore. Donegal deservedly beat Mayo in that 2012 final and were awesome that year. Great team and Jim did an amazing job.
yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11236 - 10/11/2021 14:05:01 2389023 Link 2 |
Jim Mc Guinness likes to be top dog, will be interesting to see how it works out with Laverty and Clarke in charge. tireoghainabu (Tyrone) - Posts: 276 - 10/11/2021 14:31:10 2389027 Link 0 |
Exactly. Jim is far from stupid. People lazily assuming that IF he did take on another county job whether it be in Down or Donegal or wherever, that'd just play the same card trick again and hope it works? Daft. Even before talking about tactics and style, one thing you can be sure of is a seismic culture change if Jim is involved. Every squad member will be expected to commit fully and squeeze every last drop of effort out of themselves for the cause. That in itself is the foundation that Jim will insist on. Everything else after that in terms of style, tactics depends on playing personnel available. Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9151 - 10/11/2021 14:41:16 2389028 Link 2 |
keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 10/11/2021 14:59:29 2389031 Link 0 |
Phew!! Saved by the skin of our teeth. Onwards and upwards FiorDunach (Down) - Posts: 72 - 10/11/2021 15:42:58 2389036 Link 0 |
Reasons why people would want to manage/coach Down: 1. While the modern era has seen Down fall on difficult times, Down is a sleeping giant. As the early 1990s and 2010 show Down is a county capable of awakening from its slumbers to challenge at the top level. If a manager could reestablish Down as a major force his stock as a manager would be greatly enhanced. 2. Moderate/low expectations. A new manager would get time to build his own team as few people would expect Down to be imminent challengers to win titles. 3. Tradition: Along with Cavan, Down have the most All Ireland titles of any county in Ulster with 5. They have won more national titles at Senior level than any other Ulster county. (9, 5 All Irelands, 4 NFLs). They are the only Ulster County to win the All Ireland and National Football League double more than once (1960 &1968). A 100% winning record against in the Championship. (5-0).Does any other team hold a winning record against Kerry in the Championship?? 4. Down Under 20s The Down Under 20s team are the current Ulster Champions and there are some very talented players in the team. There should be genuine hope that this team can provide a platform for a much more competitive team in the coming years. Teams that win competitions also develop a winning mentality that they bring with them into Senior football. REDANDBLACK30 (Down) - Posts: 1617 - 10/11/2021 16:10:43 2389045 Link 0 |
Wasn't Paddy Tally, a Tyrone man their last manager? Down people wanted him clearly..
Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1321 - 10/11/2021 16:23:48 2389047 Link 2 |
Yeah, Jim prefers soccer over Gaelic football. Speaking to The Irish Times, the 2012 All-Ireland winning manager revealed that he is "very much focused on soccer at the moment" Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2478 - 10/11/2021 16:29:49 2389048 Link 0 |
Takes two to tango and the 2014 All-Ireland final was very much that as Kerry had a defensive strategy in place themselves. Was a single point between the sides the a goalkeeping error swung the contest.
Yondu (UK) - Posts: 845 - 10/11/2021 16:34:34 2389049 Link 2 |
He probably saw his time with Donegal as an opportunity to launch a career in soccer management, put himself in the shop window so to speak. Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1717 - 10/11/2021 19:17:38 2389059 Link 0 |