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Replying To westmeathgaa11:  "I'm still not convinced they have a chance. Although I would say that's very unfair to say put jogger at fullback, Dan higgins has been having a standout year for the Gaels and is arguably there most consistent performing throughout the campaign"
Yeah possibly harsh on Higgins, your right he's having a great year so far. Jogger needs to be in the defence though and I'd say that would have to be at 3, 6 or 7 for me.
Raharney's have the firepower up front so the Gaels will have to be tuned in at the back.
David Williams has been unplayable at times at centre forward for the Gaels and I hope he turns in another classy display at the weekend.

Dheen (Westmeath) - Posts: 698 - 02/10/2023 12:34:55    2506602

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Lough lene to win by 3

preddan (Kildare) - Posts: 718 - 02/10/2023 12:57:37    2506616

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I'll go Gaels by 2

Dheen (Westmeath) - Posts: 698 - 02/10/2023 14:09:42    2506636

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Replying To Left Full:  "Raharney to win by 7-8 points, they have far better hurlers. Ringtown to win the senior b & Clonkill to win intermediate."
Castletown could intermediate

Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 202 - 02/10/2023 14:51:48    2506645

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Lets call a spade a spade, the gaels will need to produce an outstanding performance to win by a point or 2. If a couple of lads are not on form it could be a straight forward win for Raharney. They are justified favourites. 60/40 in Raharneys favour I would say. But you never know.

overdabar (Westmeath) - Posts: 225 - 02/10/2023 23:24:26    2506710

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Anyone who thinks the gaels have a chance in this haven't watched too many games this year. Raharney 6+ points

westmeathgaa11 (Westmeath) - Posts: 206 - 03/10/2023 08:18:16    2506715

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Replying To westmeathgaa11:  "Anyone who thinks the gaels have a chance in this haven't watched too many games this year. Raharney 6+ points"
I've watched every game and I believe the Gaels have a great chance. They will have the momentum of winning the semi final, their will be a great buzz this week around Collinstown as well which they haven't had in a long time. They have some great hurlers in Noel Conaty Darragh Qamar, Tommy Doyle, Dan Higgins, Micheal Daly, Shane Williams, David Williams, Derek McNicholas, Eoin Daly etc. All great stickmen and shouldn't be ruled out pulling off a massive win.
Finals can go either way, Raharney certainly won't be taking the Gaels for granted like some posters are.

Dheen (Westmeath) - Posts: 698 - 03/10/2023 10:31:58    2506747

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Anyone have any idea who will represent westmeath in the junior leinster championship

Hurlingmad12 (Westmeath) - Posts: 26 - 03/10/2023 14:02:14    2506801

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Replying To Hurlingmad12:  "Anyone have any idea who will represent westmeath in the junior leinster championship"
I heard that Brigids and Southern Gaels have to play off for it

stonemadbeany (USA) - Posts: 535 - 03/10/2023 16:47:56    2506831

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Replying To Dheen:  "Any more on if Kevin O'Brien and John Shaw are joining Joe Fortune's management team for the new season? And is Andrew Dermody staying on as u20 manager? I certainly hope he is, he's been fantastic. The u20 team will be the strongest it's been since 2016/2017 by all accounts."
O'Brien has declined offer to join Senior Management team. Seemingly meeting during week and has opted to get involved in some capacity with underage. Word is also that John Shaw wasn't asked to join senior.

Greenandgoldie (Westmeath) - Posts: 98 - 03/10/2023 21:11:42    2506863

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Replying To Greenandgoldie:  "O'Brien has declined offer to join Senior Management team. Seemingly meeting during week and has opted to get involved in some capacity with underage. Word is also that John Shaw wasn't asked to join senior."
Having him involved with the underage would be great.
I'm sure Joe Fortune will have the best possible back room team in place. I'd like to see them bring in a few new players to the set up, the likes of
Josh Coll, Dean Ennis, David Hickey, Eoghan Ahearn, David Devine, Jamie Mulkearns, Micheal Daly, Brian McGrath, Darragh Qamar and Luke Moore are all worthy of being brought in.
Some of the u20s should be given some action in the walsh Cup and league, like Peter Clarke, David Williams, Darragh McCormack, David O'Reilly and Conor Gaffney.
We should see Shane Williams, Niall Mitchell and Aonghus Clarke back in after time away.
Plenty of players there for Fortune and Co to work with.
Preserving our division 1 status and winning Joe Mcdonagh is achievable once we get the buy in from the players.

Dheen (Westmeath) - Posts: 698 - 04/10/2023 15:52:12    2506947

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Replying To Dheen:  "Having him involved with the underage would be great.
I'm sure Joe Fortune will have the best possible back room team in place. I'd like to see them bring in a few new players to the set up, the likes of
Josh Coll, Dean Ennis, David Hickey, Eoghan Ahearn, David Devine, Jamie Mulkearns, Micheal Daly, Brian McGrath, Darragh Qamar and Luke Moore are all worthy of being brought in.
Some of the u20s should be given some action in the walsh Cup and league, like Peter Clarke, David Williams, Darragh McCormack, David O'Reilly and Conor Gaffney.
We should see Shane Williams, Niall Mitchell and Aonghus Clarke back in after time away.
Plenty of players there for Fortune and Co to work with.
Preserving our division 1 status and winning Joe Mcdonagh is achievable once we get the buy in from the players."
David Hickey doesn't want to go in, David Devine dropped himself off the panel and has since emigrated. Mulkearns was on the panel as was Michael Daly and Luke Moore. Brian McGrath doesn't get started for Raharney, how could he possibly be on the county panel, are Raharney that good that non starters should be making the county panel

westmeathgaa11 (Westmeath) - Posts: 206 - 04/10/2023 20:08:59    2506979

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Replying To westmeathgaa11:  "David Hickey doesn't want to go in, David Devine dropped himself off the panel and has since emigrated. Mulkearns was on the panel as was Michael Daly and Luke Moore. Brian McGrath doesn't get started for Raharney, how could he possibly be on the county panel, are Raharney that good that non starters should be making the county panel"
Just listing lads with the quality to be involved

Dheen (Westmeath) - Posts: 698 - 04/10/2023 21:25:55    2506985

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Probably be no harm if Na Piarsaigh won the Minor, no more than the senior it'd be good seeing a club outside the big 3 winning it. When was the last time someone else won the Minor??

Bigjoe1 (Westmeath) - Posts: 35 - 05/10/2023 21:22:00    2507096

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Replying To Bigjoe1:  "Probably be no harm if Na Piarsaigh won the Minor, no more than the senior it'd be good seeing a club outside the big 3 winning it. When was the last time someone else won the Minor??"
Would be great if Gaels/ Na piarsigh could do the double,I don't see much chance however I do see na piarsigh winning the minor with the Gaels seniors letting the double down

westmeathgaa11 (Westmeath) - Posts: 206 - 06/10/2023 11:03:32    2507128

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Replying To Dheen:  "Just listing lads with the quality to be involved"
A big recurring issue is that the conveyor belt is much smaller than compared to our big ball comrades. It's hard to make that belt bigger as the players aren't really there. We can only work with the numbers we have.

Anyone making a minor county panel should be on a direct pathway through the senior squad. Even if they don't make it in the end, these players need continuous equal exposure to S&C and high-level coaching. They need to develop in that environment. It also drip feeds back to the clubs indirectly.

The "jump" to eventually being drafted into a senior panel shouldn't be a shock. It should be as familiar as possible. Then we're back to talking about resources - full-time staff, gym, centre of excellence, pitches etc. Most of this would be pooled with the footballers save for any hurling-specific staff.

However, you can only lead the horse to water. If players decide it's not for them and prefer to focus on studies, career, travel etc - this will always happen. That age group are now typically in college and has the aforementioned competing life decisions.

gedupoutofit (Westmeath) - Posts: 163 - 06/10/2023 14:04:54    2507164

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Replying To gedupoutofit:  "A big recurring issue is that the conveyor belt is much smaller than compared to our big ball comrades. It's hard to make that belt bigger as the players aren't really there. We can only work with the numbers we have.

Anyone making a minor county panel should be on a direct pathway through the senior squad. Even if they don't make it in the end, these players need continuous equal exposure to S&C and high-level coaching. They need to develop in that environment. It also drip feeds back to the clubs indirectly.

The "jump" to eventually being drafted into a senior panel shouldn't be a shock. It should be as familiar as possible. Then we're back to talking about resources - full-time staff, gym, centre of excellence, pitches etc. Most of this would be pooled with the footballers save for any hurling-specific staff.

However, you can only lead the horse to water. If players decide it's not for them and prefer to focus on studies, career, travel etc - this will always happen. That age group are now typically in college and has the aforementioned competing life decisions."
We have good minor and u20 teams for 2024, it'll be about trying to hold on to as many of them young lads as possible and keep them interested. Especially vital for ourselves with a lesser pool to pick from. A lot of credit has to be given to some of our clubs for the great work they are doing in producing quality players and its great to see Plunketts, Brigids etc doing their part now at underage too.

Dheen (Westmeath) - Posts: 698 - 06/10/2023 14:37:27    2507169

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Replying To westmeathgaa11:  "David Hickey doesn't want to go in, David Devine dropped himself off the panel and has since emigrated. Mulkearns was on the panel as was Michael Daly and Luke Moore. Brian McGrath doesn't get started for Raharney, how could he possibly be on the county panel, are Raharney that good that non starters should be making the county panel"
Brian Mcgrath was a key player on our under 20 county team this year.He made a huge difference with his ball winning ability and intelligence when he came on in the semi final v Clonkill replacing a county regular.I have no doubt having a young player with the ability to win ball and use it cleverly against Clonkill and Wexford under 20s has a place on our county panel.

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1369 - 06/10/2023 15:40:39    2507186

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For the weekend I'm going with a Ringtown 2pt win in the B..

Raharney to win by 4 in the senior

Greenandgoldie (Westmeath) - Posts: 98 - 06/10/2023 20:01:54    2507206

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Weekend predictions
Ringtown by 3
Gaels by 2

Hurlingmad12 (Westmeath) - Posts: 26 - 06/10/2023 20:23:17    2507207

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