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LLG were shocking bad on Sunday, they looked really inept. Raharney very impressive and dominated every area of the field. The other 2 games at the weekend went to script, Clonkill look like they're firing again the last couple of games but looks like it's too little too late I think. Their tendency for a slow start to the championship could cost them this time around, even with their improved form I can't see them overturning Raharney. LLG were blessed with the draw, gave them a chance to get points on the board by catching Clonkill cold, if they were to play on current form it'd be a different story. I think LLG have already peaked with enough done to sneak into the knockouts for the first time in an age. Fr Daltons have waned after a couple of early fighting performances but may have a kick left in them when they face a poor Castlepollard. Prediction for the next round and final group standings CG for a comfortable win over LLG Raharney with enough power to overcome Clonkill Fr D to put in a performance and squeeze by Pollard Raharney 8 Castletown. 8 Gaels 6 Clonkill. 4 Daltons 2 Pollard 2 Raharney to beat CG in final, relegation playoff with Castlepollard to go down CleanShoulder (Westmeath) - Posts: 314 - 22/08/2023 12:07:19 2501748 Link
Raharney looked very slick at the weekend. Granted, LLG never really got going and were quite poor. Jamie Mulkearns is a huge prospect for the county senior side moving forward. He had a hand in sniffing g out numerous attacks on goal in the second half when the gaels had no choice but to go for them. Still suspicious of McHugh in goals however. 35OLT (USA) - Posts: 95 - 22/08/2023 13:45:18 2501767 Link
Replying To CleanShoulder: "LLG were shocking bad on Sunday, they looked really inept. Raharney very impressive and dominated every area of the field. The other 2 games at the weekend went to script, Clonkill look like they're firing again the last couple of games but looks like it's too little too late I think. Their tendency for a slow start to the championship could cost them this time around, even with their improved form I can't see them overturning Raharney. LLG were blessed with the draw, gave them a chance to get points on the board by catching Clonkill cold, if they were to play on current form it'd be a different story. I think LLG have already peaked with enough done to sneak into the knockouts for the first time in an age. Fr Daltons have waned after a couple of early fighting performances but may have a kick left in them when they face a poor Castlepollard. Prediction for the next round and final group standings CG for a comfortable win over LLG Raharney with enough power to overcome Clonkill Fr D to put in a performance and squeeze by Pollard Raharney 8 Castletown. 8 Gaels 6 Clonkill. 4 Daltons 2 Pollard 2 Raharney to beat CG in final, relegation playoff with Castlepollard to go down" LLG blessed with having clonkill in the first round, but similarly if they had faced Raharney, clonkill daltons pollard in that order they'd probably be in a county final with a game to go westmeathgaa11 (Westmeath) - Posts: 268 - 22/08/2023 18:21:12 2501828 Link
I think it's a bit early to be writing off clonkill. I only heard Sunday that Clonkill have a new coach in and it has turned the team around judging by the display last weekend. I agree Llg have gone back a bit but they were fully deserving of their wins earlier in the championship. I think Raharney will play Clonkill in a semi and will end in a clonkill v Castletown final. Greenandgoldie (Westmeath) - Posts: 138 - 23/08/2023 08:32:36 2501851 Link
Replying To Greenandgoldie: "I think it's a bit early to be writing off clonkill. I only heard Sunday that Clonkill have a new coach in and it has turned the team around judging by the display last weekend. I agree Llg have gone back a bit but they were fully deserving of their wins earlier in the championship. I think Raharney will play Clonkill in a semi and will end in a clonkill v Castletown final." Llg absolutely deserved their wins and have been very close in recent years only for injuries to scupper their chances especially ladt year. They will struggle vs CtG and I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't win another game this year. They could make a semi final but it depends on other teams doing them a favour. Premier12345 (Tipperary) - Posts: 48 - 23/08/2023 12:18:41 2501886 Link
When were the Gaels really close to a championship, they haven't been in a championship final since 2015, last Sunday showed that they're very much the fourth best team, one player scoring from play in a championship match is a stat that's hard to argue with. Obviously Jogger is a big loss but they're depending on other results to make semi as I can't see them beating Castletown Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1800 - 23/08/2023 13:23:08 2501914 Link
We need a new team to win it.. The big three have been winning it for quite a while now and it's getting a bit stale imo and they have not in most cases being doing themselves justice in leinster. LLG look the best bet outside the big 3 to win it usually that's why I supporting them this year in that quest to do it, it would be be good for westmeath hurling and give it a freshness if they did. 18 years since the last team outside the big 3 to do it and that's a long time it's scary preddan (Kildare) - Posts: 746 - 24/08/2023 11:07:47 2502042 Link
Replying To preddan: "We need a new team to win it.. The big three have been winning it for quite a while now and it's getting a bit stale imo and they have not in most cases being doing themselves justice in leinster. LLG look the best bet outside the big 3 to win it usually that's why I supporting them this year in that quest to do it, it would be be good for westmeath hurling and give it a freshness if they did. 18 years since the last team outside the big 3 to do it and that's a long time it's scary" Unfortunately doesn't look like changing any time soon, if u look at all the underage finals it's basically the same 3 either winning or beaten finalalists. They basically have the same underage set up, big emphasis on hurling in the local national school or schools which is basically a hurling nursery for the local club, good coaches, facilities, main sport in their areas, tradition, Dads, uncles etc were former players. Bigjoe1 (Westmeath) - Posts: 49 - 24/08/2023 21:30:40 2502147 Link
The pick of LLG, Pollard and Daltons wouldn't win the championship CleanShoulder (Westmeath) - Posts: 314 - 24/08/2023 22:18:05 2502154 Link
Replying To preddan: "We need a new team to win it.. The big three have been winning it for quite a while now and it's getting a bit stale imo and they have not in most cases being doing themselves justice in leinster. LLG look the best bet outside the big 3 to win it usually that's why I supporting them this year in that quest to do it, it would be be good for westmeath hurling and give it a freshness if they did. 18 years since the last team outside the big 3 to do it and that's a long time it's scary" Don't see how not doing justice very herd as ballyhale are huge force they have put up good games vs lots club teams raharney clonkill and ctg . Anyway lough len galls while would be different can't dee then winning the whole lot even if they did it wouldn't make much difference in leinster and that said clubs tend put effort into county scene mainly before provincial series Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 396 - 24/08/2023 22:34:54 2502156 Link
Replying To CleanShoulder: "The pick of LLG, Pollard and Daltons wouldn't win the championship" That's a valid point. I understand people will like to see change in winners but I can't see it happening any time soon. Greenandgoldie (Westmeath) - Posts: 138 - 25/08/2023 13:36:29 2502223 Link
Replying To Greenandgoldie: "That's a valid point. I understand people will like to see change in winners but I can't see it happening any time soon." I don't agree with that statement at all. Noel Conaty Tommy Gallagher Tommy Doyle Darragh Qamar Jack Kearney David Higgins Conor Gaffney John Gilligan David Devine Eoin Daly David Williams Shane Williams Eoghan McCabe Darragh McCormack Derek McNicholas Your saying that team wouldn't be able to beat Castletown Raharney and Clonkill? I think they would, especially Clonkill. The Gaels and Pollard aren't a million miles away they just lack strength in depth but I do expect one of them to overtake Clonkill within the next 2 years. Dheen (Westmeath) - Posts: 883 - 25/08/2023 14:37:36 2502234 Link
Replying To Dheen: "I don't agree with that statement at all. Noel Conaty Tommy Gallagher Tommy Doyle Darragh Qamar Jack Kearney David Higgins Conor Gaffney John Gilligan David Devine Eoin Daly David Williams Shane Williams Eoghan McCabe Darragh McCormack Derek McNicholas Your saying that team wouldn't be able to beat Castletown Raharney and Clonkill? I think they would, especially Clonkill. The Gaels and Pollard aren't a million miles away they just lack strength in depth but I do expect one of them to overtake Clonkill within the next 2 years." That team would not win the championship and your naming lads that are not even in the country and won't be back anytime soon DanGer966 (Westmeath) - Posts: 22 - 25/08/2023 16:14:49 2502248 Link
Replying To Dheen: "I don't agree with that statement at all. Noel Conaty Tommy Gallagher Tommy Doyle Darragh Qamar Jack Kearney David Higgins Conor Gaffney John Gilligan David Devine Eoin Daly David Williams Shane Williams Eoghan McCabe Darragh McCormack Derek McNicholas Your saying that team wouldn't be able to beat Castletown Raharney and Clonkill? I think they would, especially Clonkill. The Gaels and Pollard aren't a million miles away they just lack strength in depth but I do expect one of them to overtake Clonkill within the next 2 years." And a subs bench of Joe rabbit, Andy dermody, colm Dermody, John McCarthy, Darragh o Reilly, Seanie Lancaster, Dan Higgins, Michael Daly, Brendan Doyle, Marcus Kennedy westmeathgaa11 (Westmeath) - Posts: 268 - 25/08/2023 16:39:34 2502254 Link
Replying To Dheen: "I don't agree with that statement at all. Noel Conaty Tommy Gallagher Tommy Doyle Darragh Qamar Jack Kearney David Higgins Conor Gaffney John Gilligan David Devine Eoin Daly David Williams Shane Williams Eoghan McCabe Darragh McCormack Derek McNicholas Your saying that team wouldn't be able to beat Castletown Raharney and Clonkill? I think they would, especially Clonkill. The Gaels and Pollard aren't a million miles away they just lack strength in depth but I do expect one of them to overtake Clonkill within the next 2 years." Tommy Gallagher not in the country and not that big of a loss anyway, Tommy Doyle or David Higgins not around either, Darragh McCormack out injured all year. Even if they were all available I'd still stick to my guns. On current form Eoin Daly not quite good enough for a championship winning team or Darragh Qamar either, neither would get their place with Raharney or CG. Shane Williams not playing well, Derek is waning. Goalie suspect. Too many of what you've named are very hot and cold. And how the hell could you leave Dan Higgins out of that team, by far the most consistent of anyone, always performs to the highest level. Pollard ARE a million miles off, Gaels maybe 500,000. Can't win anything without depth and neither have it, will both lose more players than they gain in the next couple of years. CleanShoulder (Westmeath) - Posts: 314 - 25/08/2023 18:55:33 2502260 Link
Four of that team haven't played in this year's championship and three of them haven't played championship hurling in two years at least. Fair to say it's possible two of them may not feature again for their clubs at senior level. Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1800 - 25/08/2023 19:04:44 2502262 Link
How can any poster say that Pollard aren't a million miles away? They were comprehensively beaten in three championship matches, at least 10 points, two of their better forwards were Alan Devine and Andrew Dermody and it's fair to say that their best days are behind them. Joe Rabbitte likely to be out until next year, obviously Darragh McCormack should be back but one young player can hardly transform them. Surely Noel Boyce wouldn't have stepped down as manager if he felt they were contenders? Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1800 - 25/08/2023 19:09:02 2502263 Link
Plunketts will be contenders for a Senior championship before Castlepollard. Westmeathgael98 (Westmeath) - Posts: 50 - 26/08/2023 09:47:52 2502291 Link
Replying To Westmeathgael98: "Plunketts will be contenders for a Senior championship before Castlepollard." I see that if 3 teams finished on the same points, it is the score difference between those 3 teams that are counted. Not the entire group. Premier12345 (Tipperary) - Posts: 48 - 26/08/2023 12:06:33 2502303 Link
Replying To Claretandblue: "How can any poster say that Pollard aren't a million miles away? They were comprehensively beaten in three championship matches, at least 10 points, two of their better forwards were Alan Devine and Andrew Dermody and it's fair to say that their best days are behind them. Joe Rabbitte likely to be out until next year, obviously Darragh McCormack should be back but one young player can hardly transform them. Surely Noel Boyce wouldn't have stepped down as manager if he felt they were contenders?" Judging by a lot of his/her previous posts on here, Dheen is almost definitely from Castlepollard with relations in Collinstown, and someone who can't see past their own team to the point of delusion. There's a lot of that craic on here. CleanShoulder (Westmeath) - Posts: 314 - 26/08/2023 13:20:55 2502314 Link