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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Wide open championship but difficult to see Raharney being contenders based on tonight's display. They looked poorly prepared, no great team spirit, Pollard were hungryer team, Clonkill also looked well off the pace, Mitchell was missing but so was Jogger and Clonkill will struggle to make semi final now considering they have Castletown and Pollard and Raharney to play. More than 2 defeats leaves any side in bother."
Raharney have a lot of players to slot back in, even if they were to only get Killian back they'll have a big say in the championship

westmeathgaa11 (Westmeath) - Posts: 220 - 02/07/2023 10:38:37    2491244

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Raharney were missing Killian, David Hickey and Robbie Greville, admittedly significant losses but there was a lack of quality in their play, they seemed unaware that Pollard had one or two sweepers in second half and Raharney's attackers are not known for their pace. Pollard are contenders for the championship after winning the league and opening round of championship. Allen Devine will be on Joe Fortune's radar along with Darren Reilly, Conor Gaffney and John McCarthy. Clonkill without Niall Mitchell for next few weeks will struggle to make semi final.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1515 - 02/07/2023 11:49:04    2491273

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Replying To jobber:  "firstly how did the 16s do? If you read my posts i have been complementing plunketts underage work but U16 isnt senior.Plunketts only won the intermediate in 2021 and barely survived last year edging Raharney b down to intermediate while the Wood were winning this in 2020.Todays win shows that some of the talent is coming through."
Both of ye are wrong, In 2022 Plunketts beat the wood in the final round, coupled with Daltons beating Delvin the result put the wood into 4th place and the wood missed out in the semifinal. Plunketts then played Brigids in a relegation playoff and Plunketts won on penalties. If Plunketts didn't beat the wood last year they would've been relegated as Brigids had beaten Plunketts in the group stage. Raharney have never been in the senior B, they haven't won the intermediate since senior B started. The Wood won the inaugural senior B.

stonemadbeany (USA) - Posts: 543 - 02/07/2023 18:18:37    2491438

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Replying To Westmeathk:  "Can I ask how exactly that's a shock? Plunketts have been working hugely bringing young lads through in the last few years? Just this morning I seen the u16 Westmeath team was backboned by 7/8 plunketts lads. If I'm not mistaking plunketts relegated the wood lastyear from this competition aswell?"
If Plunketts relegated the wood then how are the wood still in the competition? This forum is like the Westmeath GAA podcast...riddled with inaccuracies

stonemadbeany (USA) - Posts: 543 - 02/07/2023 18:44:27    2491458

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Replying To stonemadbeany:  "Both of ye are wrong, In 2022 Plunketts beat the wood in the final round, coupled with Daltons beating Delvin the result put the wood into 4th place and the wood missed out in the semifinal. Plunketts then played Brigids in a relegation playoff and Plunketts won on penalties. If Plunketts didn't beat the wood last year they would've been relegated as Brigids had beaten Plunketts in the group stage. Raharney have never been in the senior B, they haven't won the intermediate since senior B started. The Wood won the inaugural senior B."
Stand corrected but i stand over it was a surprise to see Plunketts beating the Wood, as was the case with Brownstown beating Delvin and last years intermediate champions Ringtown beating Cullion down from senior A.The Senior B hurling must be Westmeath GAA's most competitive competition.

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1471 - 02/07/2023 19:28:31    2491500

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Father Dalton did well enough ctg got out jailed missing a fee but conceded 4 goals. Father Daltons could test a few or was because derby

Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 224 - 02/07/2023 20:20:10    2491543

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Replying To Gaaforlife2023:  "Father Dalton did well enough ctg got out jailed missing a fee but conceded 4 goals. Father Daltons could test a few or was because derby"
Was because local Derby anyway be good to senior b from last year be competitive

Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 224 - 02/07/2023 20:56:50    2491564

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Other counties manage to start new clubs. Get coaching into schools, get them fielding teams, get a club committee together and start.
As a county we cannot keep ignoring the towns and hinterlands with no hurling.
It suits the 3 dominant clubs to recruit any good underage players out of neighbouring towns

valley84 (Westmeath) - Posts: 1890 - 03/07/2023 08:26:56    2491637

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Stop posting nonsense Valley. Name the people who would coach a Moate hurling team? Deal with reality not posting pie in the sky stuff. What towns do Raharney and Castletown poach from?

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1515 - 03/07/2023 10:06:20    2491680

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Replying To valley84:  "Other counties manage to start new clubs. Get coaching into schools, get them fielding teams, get a club committee together and start.
As a county we cannot keep ignoring the towns and hinterlands with no hurling.
It suits the 3 dominant clubs to recruit any good underage players out of neighbouring towns"
There have been underage teams in Moate and Rosemount in the past so its not out of the question.

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1471 - 03/07/2023 10:22:15    2491693

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When was there underage teams in Moate? What century? Again, who will coach? Deal with reality please.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1515 - 03/07/2023 12:14:47    2491758

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "When was there underage teams in Moate? What century? Again, who will coach? Deal with reality please."
Introducing bull fighting would be more plausible.

jiminycricket (Offaly) - Posts: 16 - 03/07/2023 13:12:11    2491789

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "When was there underage teams in Moate? What century? Again, who will coach? Deal with reality please."
They were short lived but there was most definitely underage hurling in Moate and Garrycastle in the late 1980s

Jack_Sparrow (Westmeath) - Posts: 1019 - 03/07/2023 14:33:48    2491855

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "When was there underage teams in Moate? What century? Again, who will coach? Deal with reality please."
Now now football man dont be getting so angry.The FACTS are there were underage hurling clubs in Moate in the early 80s and Rosemount later.I didnt say it was probable but not beyond the bounds of possibility.Moate community school won a Leinster hurling title in 2021 so someone managed them. I understand there are football people like yourself horrified at the notion but do try to keep your answers civilised.

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1471 - 03/07/2023 16:53:18    2491922

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Cavan Hurling Development has produced 10 underage clubs some of them almost out of thin air. Westmeath with a much bigger hurling tradition should be able to at least try promoting 3 or 4 more underage clubs.

Jack_Sparrow (Westmeath) - Posts: 1019 - 03/07/2023 18:26:02    2491952

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Utter nonsense. Rosemount have not had a hurling team in 5-6 decades, Moate likewise. Moate school winning a hurling title means nothing, zero. What clubs were the players with? Clara, Ballycumber, Tubber, Fr. Dalton's. Try to answer the questions posed, who would train this new club? Existing hurling areas struggling for mentors and players, at least add some realism to the argument

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1515 - 03/07/2023 19:01:59    2491965

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Replying To Jack_Sparrow:  "They were short lived but there was most definitely underage hurling in Moate and Garrycastle in the late 1980s"
You're correct, Jack. Garrycastle fielded an Under 12 team in 1984, and later fielded at Under 14 and Under 16 levels. They actually reached semi-finals at both Under 12 and Under 14 levels, all this at a time when the club had no pitch of its own, not even for football. I think that was the main reason they folded up, and a few players then went to Southern Gaels and helped them win a minor title in 1991. I know that Moate also fielded underage teams for some of those years, and I recall them inviting other clubs into an Under 12 tournament on one occasion. Hurling will always, unfortunately, take second place in the south of the county but Southern Gaels have been working hard especially at underage level and their numbers are growing. Fielding a camogie team for the first time this year is another positive development.

midlands (Westmeath) - Posts: 548 - 03/07/2023 21:09:15    2491989

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well in kildare there are two new adult teams Cappagh near kilcock only started underage hurling about 10 years ago and have an adult team now their first ever and round towers in kildare town have started a junior team too alongside a couple other new clubs at underage so it can be done from scratch.
Ardnurcher i know was a historical club in westmeath near moate got to a senior final once and one of westmeaths best players who went and starred and was captain for dublin after colm boland was from there so there was hurling there

preddan (Kildare) - Posts: 740 - 03/07/2023 21:42:49    2491996

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After seeing all 3 games at weekend.
Pollard will get into top 3
Raharney had one of there starting back 6 from County final playing Sunday. Think they'll come good.
Clonkill rudderless at the moment. Very disjointed.
Castletown the team to beat

Onionbagger (Westmeath) - Posts: 78 - 03/07/2023 23:11:32    2492010

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Michael Broder played hurling with Daltons so I'd imagine he has a bit of interest. Showing my age now but I don't remember playing Moate or Rosemount in the late eighties in underage hurling, open to correction of course though, but need to see facts, I'll ask a few older lads in the club and see what they say.

stonemadbeany (USA) - Posts: 543 - 03/07/2023 23:16:09    2492011

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