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Junior Finals:
North Board: Claregalway B v Mountbellew/Moylough B
West Board: Moycullen B v Salthill/Knocknacarra B

Is this a slightly worrying trend? All B teams where in the main population is growing. No sign of smaller rural & struggling town clubs.

Would there be merit in following the Mayo, Donegal, Kildare (to name a few) systems of making a junior exclusive championship for first teams. It would limit second teams in not going past Junior A or a senior reserve championship but would surely help football in places like Ballinasloe, Athenry, Clonbur, Carna, FGEO, Clifden, Renvyle etc.

Thoughts?

Donaldtrump (Galway) - Posts: 252 - 16/10/2021 22:03:22    2385877

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Replying To Donaldtrump:  "Junior Finals:
North Board: Claregalway B v Mountbellew/Moylough B
West Board: Moycullen B v Salthill/Knocknacarra B

Is this a slightly worrying trend? All B teams where in the main population is growing. No sign of smaller rural & struggling town clubs.

Would there be merit in following the Mayo, Donegal, Kildare (to name a few) systems of making a junior exclusive championship for first teams. It would limit second teams in not going past Junior A or a senior reserve championship but would surely help football in places like Ballinasloe, Athenry, Clonbur, Carna, FGEO, Clifden, Renvyle etc.

Thoughts?"
Noticed that last night. Not great.

Castlebar2019 (Mayo) - Posts: 24 - 17/10/2021 08:38:55    2385879

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Replying To Donaldtrump:  "Junior Finals:
North Board: Claregalway B v Mountbellew/Moylough B
West Board: Moycullen B v Salthill/Knocknacarra B

Is this a slightly worrying trend? All B teams where in the main population is growing. No sign of smaller rural & struggling town clubs.

Would there be merit in following the Mayo, Donegal, Kildare (to name a few) systems of making a junior exclusive championship for first teams. It would limit second teams in not going past Junior A or a senior reserve championship but would surely help football in places like Ballinasloe, Athenry, Clonbur, Carna, FGEO, Clifden, Renvyle etc.

Thoughts?"
Whether it's a bad thing or a good thing the "super clubs" are the way we are headed. We may as well embrace it. I think that the GAA should also change the rules allowing second teams represent county. Maybe have a special competition for junior clubs but promotion to intermediate has to be from an inclusive competition, players representing 2nd/3rd/4th teams deserve meaningful competitions. As an aside 3 of the 4 x B teams in the junior finals are from massive clubs of expanding population. Mountbellew is not in that category being about 50 Km from the city and you only have to look at under age results for the last couple of years to see that.

anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 839 - 17/10/2021 11:45:13    2385896

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SFC QF's

Killannin 1-11 Oughterard 1-8
Tuam Stars 1-12 Moycullen 0-16

IFC QF's

St Brendan's 0-14 Micheal Breathnach 0-13
Dunmore MacHales 3-9 Glenamaddy 1-13

Marooned (Galway) - Posts: 2208 - 17/10/2021 17:02:34    2385920

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Galway SFC semi-final draw

Moycullen v Mountbellew-Moylough
Corofin v Killannin

IFC semi-final draw

Dunmore MacHales v St Brendan's
Naomh Anna Leitir Mor v Olieain Arann

Marooned (Galway) - Posts: 2208 - 17/10/2021 17:04:42    2385921

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Quietly confident we will regain the fox. We progressing nicely with a fair few young lads blooded.

Slightly worried how we struggled in intermediate level.

Well done to Brendan's great going after coming up from Junior A. Serious result v MB.

handpassking (Galway) - Posts: 430 - 17/10/2021 19:30:44    2385954

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Replying To handpassking:  "Quietly confident we will regain the fox. We progressing nicely with a fair few young lads blooded.

Slightly worried how we struggled in intermediate level.

Well done to Brendan's great going after coming up from Junior A. Serious result v MB."
Brendans came up from Junior...not Junior A.

anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 839 - 17/10/2021 20:39:24    2385964

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Breandans are a youthful outfit full of endeavor but limited. MB are a team in decline . Can't see Brendan's making final they will be exposed in semi v Dunmore.

Stripsandbanners (Galway) - Posts: 80 - 17/10/2021 21:57:09    2385982

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Replying To Stripsandbanners:  "Breandans are a youthful outfit full of endeavor but limited. MB are a team in decline . Can't see Brendan's making final they will be exposed in semi v Dunmore."
I don't think anyone who was in Duggan Park yesterday would describe Brendan's as limited. They've some fine young footballers. The one point margin flattered MB. Also bare in mind Brendan's won the game without Ruairi Cunningham who only played the last 5/10 minutes (I'm presuming due to injury)

Donaldtrump (Galway) - Posts: 252 - 18/10/2021 10:03:58    2386007

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Quality of Galway club football is shocking. Is it any wonder our expectations of the county team are in the toilet. Moycullen are very average and stumbling through each game. Killannin are no good. Corofin as we know can't produce an inter county footballer and Mountbellew bottle it on all occasions.

Peggy11 (Galway) - Posts: 84 - 18/10/2021 10:40:42    2386016

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Would agree Donald. They have some lovely footballers and if they go senior it would be a spectacular achievement. I would definitely give them more than a fighting chance against Dunmore.

But definitely the opposition MB are in decline and only for Headford taking there eye of matters against Gabriels in the final group match Breatnachs would be in the relegation battle.

Will Cunningham be fit for semi?

northbouind (Galway) - Posts: 304 - 18/10/2021 11:39:24    2386041

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Another example yesterday of the Stars failing to close out games with a lead.

FallenStar (Galway) - Posts: 413 - 18/10/2021 11:52:31    2386049

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Your not to far of the mark there peggy. The Brendan's match was of poor standard. Yes they had a few sweet footballers and should have beaten Breatnachs by more even without Cunningham but for me they are limited as a unit. But overall who on that pitch would really be at county standard?

Stripsandbanners (Galway) - Posts: 80 - 18/10/2021 11:55:13    2386050

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Replying To Peggy11:  "Quality of Galway club football is shocking. Is it any wonder our expectations of the county team are in the toilet. Moycullen are very average and stumbling through each game. Killannin are no good. Corofin as we know can't produce an inter county footballer and Mountbellew bottle it on all occasions."
Have to pull you up on this. Your statement is purely based on opinion. The facts would contradict this.

Galway club football has shown itself to be as good as any county in recent years. From 2017 to 2019, Corofin won 3 senior club all Ireland's in a row. Each year their toughest test (by margin) came in Galway. Annagdown, Tuam and Mountbellew all suffered very narrow losses or forced Corofin to replays during this period. In 2020, the 3 time all Ireland champions were beaten by an excellent Mountbellew / Moylough team, who were in turn beaten by a strong Moycullen (who you've described as average).

2019 also saw Oughterard (our 18th best team by ranking) waltz to an all Ireland intermediate final. Keep in mind they had to compete against counties who may only have 8/12/16 senior teams. If the standard was that shocking at club level, surely oughterard would've found adjusting to Senior much easier. Even though they're a good outfit they were lucky to avoid relegation play offs last year with a narrow victory over Monivea.

Our expectations are for the county team are "in the toilet" because of the poor quality manager in charge, not because of our club championships.

Blaming the poor county team around unfounded negative claims about our club championships (which are great in my opinion) is slightly daft.

Donaldtrump (Galway) - Posts: 252 - 18/10/2021 12:55:37    2386061

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Replying To Peggy11:  "Quality of Galway club football is shocking. Is it any wonder our expectations of the county team are in the toilet. Moycullen are very average and stumbling through each game. Killannin are no good. Corofin as we know can't produce an inter county footballer and Mountbellew bottle it on all occasions."
That's a fairly ridiculous statement. No dispute of where Galway football is at at an inter county level but how can you justify saying that club football is of poor standard. Corofin are all Ireland champions and have won the last three all Irelands. A few teams have shown over the last year that the are at a level close to them ( Mountbellew and Moycullen in particular). And then consider that Moycullen have won 3 of their 4 games this year by 1 point and Mountbellew have drawn 2 of their 4 games you would have to say that there are a number of teams not a million miles away from Corofin.

anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 839 - 18/10/2021 12:56:47    2386062

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Replying To FallenStar:  "Another example yesterday of the Stars failing to close out games with a lead."
Too many passengers, no faith in bench..

Belclare (Galway) - Posts: 904 - 18/10/2021 13:15:40    2386070

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Replying To FallenStar:  "Another example yesterday of the Stars failing to close out games with a lead."
4 points up after the penalty. They really shouldn't have lost it from there. Especially as they didn't let Moycullen in for a goal. Have some sympathy with them over a couple of the late ref decisions. One in particular looked more like a free for the Stars and the ref somehow gave it to Moycullen. I think Peter Cooke knocked the free over the bar so it was a big score. Super winning point from Cooke with the last kick of the game in fairness.

Marooned (Galway) - Posts: 2208 - 18/10/2021 13:33:53    2386074

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Replying To Marooned:  "4 points up after the penalty. They really shouldn't have lost it from there. Especially as they didn't let Moycullen in for a goal. Have some sympathy with them over a couple of the late ref decisions. One in particular looked more like a free for the Stars and the ref somehow gave it to Moycullen. I think Peter Cooke knocked the free over the bar so it was a big score. Super winning point from Cooke with the last kick of the game in fairness."
Moycullen had more quality in fairness and it sets up a great semi to see who will play Corofin in final..
Watched the Tuam game, they looked unfitter and a little disorganized this year compared Cartons first two years in charge..

Belclare (Galway) - Posts: 904 - 18/10/2021 13:49:52    2386077

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Replying To Belclare:  "Moycullen had more quality in fairness and it sets up a great semi to see who will play Corofin in final..
Watched the Tuam game, they looked unfitter and a little disorganized this year compared Cartons first two years in charge.."
A few late calls went the Moycullen way definitely. Most refs would have given Tuam a chance to equalise as the winning point was scored at the very end of the 3 extra minutes, blew up on 3:06. The full forward for Tuam was also very unlucky late on when he didn't take a mark five yards inside the 45. He gave Sean K some roasting.

hashtag2017 (Galway) - Posts: 173 - 18/10/2021 15:52:23    2386106

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Replying To Donaldtrump:  "Have to pull you up on this. Your statement is purely based on opinion. The facts would contradict this.

Galway club football has shown itself to be as good as any county in recent years. From 2017 to 2019, Corofin won 3 senior club all Ireland's in a row. Each year their toughest test (by margin) came in Galway. Annagdown, Tuam and Mountbellew all suffered very narrow losses or forced Corofin to replays during this period. In 2020, the 3 time all Ireland champions were beaten by an excellent Mountbellew / Moylough team, who were in turn beaten by a strong Moycullen (who you've described as average).

2019 also saw Oughterard (our 18th best team by ranking) waltz to an all Ireland intermediate final. Keep in mind they had to compete against counties who may only have 8/12/16 senior teams. If the standard was that shocking at club level, surely oughterard would've found adjusting to Senior much easier. Even though they're a good outfit they were lucky to avoid relegation play offs last year with a narrow victory over Monivea.

Our expectations are for the county team are "in the toilet" because of the poor quality manager in charge, not because of our club championships.

Blaming the poor county team around unfounded negative claims about our club championships (which are great in my opinion) is slightly daft."
I believe that PJ is meeting the players this evening a clear the air meeting should tell a lot

minor77 (Galway) - Posts: 223 - 18/10/2021 17:11:19    2386128

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