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Best of luck today to all involved on both teams.

Mads (Limerick) - Posts: 366 - 02/04/2022 12:37:17    2409042

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Played Dublin in a challenge match this afternoon in Celbridge.
Won 1.25 to 23pts, full team out apart from Gillane and Lynch.

skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 1057 - 02/04/2022 16:20:30    2409074

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Best of luck also to our Footballers today and the Ladies team tomorrow. It is the first time of a Louth/Limerick National Final pairing since the initial All Ireland Final back in1887."
And were you in the stand that day, or behind the goals, OTM (with the emphasis on the O)?

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1903 - 02/04/2022 16:47:07    2409081

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Replying To skillet:  "Played Dublin in a challenge match this afternoon in Celbridge.
Won 1.25 to 23pts, full team out apart from Gillane and Lynch."
Not going to lie a bit disappointed with that result on paper especially with a close to full strength team. Dublin while flying it in the league at the beginning for me they struggled at bit towards the latter stages of the league. In fairness it's hard to judge in a challenge game too. If lynch and gillane weren't playing who was in do you know skillet? O'Neil and mulcahy or Reidy.

Mads (Limerick) - Posts: 366 - 02/04/2022 18:11:41    2409099

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Replying To Mads:  "Not going to lie a bit disappointed with that result on paper especially with a close to full strength team. Dublin while flying it in the league at the beginning for me they struggled at bit towards the latter stages of the league. In fairness it's hard to judge in a challenge game too. If lynch and gillane weren't playing who was in do you know skillet? O'Neil and mulcahy or Reidy."
Oisin O Reilly and Mulcahy were the 2 corner forwards. As far as I can remember O Neill was 11.
We were poor enough to be honest and went in 2 down at half time. 10 mins into the second half we looked in trouble but upped the ante a good bit. O Reilly got the goal. Positives were Hegarty and Tom Morrisey, both were very good.
Nash was exceptional also, got four points from play marauding forward. Hard to know what to think but we don't look a well oiled machine yet.

skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 1057 - 02/04/2022 18:24:22    2409104

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Replying To skillet:  "Oisin O Reilly and Mulcahy were the 2 corner forwards. As far as I can remember O Neill was 11.
We were poor enough to be honest and went in 2 down at half time. 10 mins into the second half we looked in trouble but upped the ante a good bit. O Reilly got the goal. Positives were Hegarty and Tom Morrisey, both were very good.
Nash was exceptional also, got four points from play marauding forward. Hard to know what to think but we don't look a well oiled machine yet."
Thanks milliom for that, great to hear hego and Tom were doing well. It's not easy on those lads to keep being expected to do the job. Great to hear they are finding form. At least they pulled it together in the second half a d worked their way through the game. Flanagan and Hayes had very little game time in the league no harm for them to have a full game under the belts. Nash is the complete hurler, he Could be played anywhere . What a talent. I would take someone's hand off for 3rd position in munster

Mads (Limerick) - Posts: 366 - 02/04/2022 18:33:19    2409108

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "And were you in the stand that day, or behind the goals, OTM (with the emphasis on the O)?"
Well, no actually-for once-, but I do know that our midfielder Malachi O'Brien was MOM, and he gave such a splendid display that he was invited to dine with the Viceroy- Lord French one believes. We always had that bit of style, had we not. I can't recall any other greats being invited to the Aras.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4316 - 02/04/2022 19:19:56    2409118

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Thanks for letting us know about the game in Cellbridge. And to hear that Hegarty and Morrissey are back in form is music to my ears. I suppose youd be hoping for more than one goal against a team like Dublin. Looking at the game last night Waterford will be a 2 or 3 goal team in every game. Iv yet to be convinced of O Reilly in the corner but I guess he needs lots of games. Nash is outstanding ,can't say enough about him.
I'd have to agree with the above poster that said he'd take 3rd place. I would too ,not because I think Limerick aren't as good as Waterford or Cork but purely because Limerick will improve as the season goes on.

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 03/04/2022 13:41:19    2409196

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Well, no actually-for once-, but I do know that our midfielder Malachi O'Brien was MOM, and he gave such a splendid display that he was invited to dine with the Viceroy- Lord French one believes. We always had that bit of style, had we not. I can't recall any other greats being invited to the Aras."
Great story, OTM, and not that I'd like to concede anything ever to the blue n gold, but was Malachi O'Brien actually an Emly man?

I remember there was an auction a few years ago, for one of his medals (put in a bid actually, but it wasn't near enough), and he was put down as an Emly man, as far as I can recall.

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1903 - 03/04/2022 14:07:57    2409205

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Ultimately we won't have a clue about where the team stands until after the cork game.
Waterford exposed all the worst of corks failings last night. They have the everything needed to win the all Ireland ….I think we'll have to beat them in semi or final to get our three in a row.

I still expect cork to throw the kitchen sink at us in game one but if we play to potential we have enough in the locker to take them. Play averagely and they'll skin us and with blood in the water Waterford could easily take us too. Ultimately we need at least one result from the first two games to get out of Munster in my opinion

Strangely for a team who are going for a three in a row and 4 in 5 years We need actually need some momentum. It's going to be a long season and I think there will be plenty of ups and downs. No harm having another team raging hot favourites this early.
We've an extremely settled team with bucket loads of big game experience. The longer we stay in the championship the more confident I would be.

There has to be an incredible amount of internal motivation to win a three in a row. It would cement them as one of the greats.

Sugary_tae (Limerick) - Posts: 70 - 03/04/2022 20:10:44    2409358

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "Great story, OTM, and not that I'd like to concede anything ever to the blue n gold, but was Malachi O'Brien actually an Emly man?

I remember there was an auction a few years ago, for one of his medals (put in a bid actually, but it wasn't near enough), and he was put down as an Emly man, as far as I can recall."
I remember reading that passage - I think it was from a book by Raymond Smith and my recollection is that he was from Emly.

Dealer (Limerick) - Posts: 835 - 03/04/2022 20:18:54    2409362

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "Great story, OTM, and not that I'd like to concede anything ever to the blue n gold, but was Malachi O'Brien actually an Emly man?

I remember there was an auction a few years ago, for one of his medals (put in a bid actually, but it wasn't near enough), and he was put down as an Emly man, as far as I can recall."
Yes he was an Emly man but he was a Limerick Star that day. It amazes me that Michael D, himself being a Limerick man and all, did not invite Cian Lynch to dine after last years Final- after all the precedent has been set.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4316 - 03/04/2022 20:25:46    2409368

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Replying To Sugary_tae:  "Ultimately we won't have a clue about where the team stands until after the cork game.
Waterford exposed all the worst of corks failings last night. They have the everything needed to win the all Ireland ….I think we'll have to beat them in semi or final to get our three in a row.

I still expect cork to throw the kitchen sink at us in game one but if we play to potential we have enough in the locker to take them. Play averagely and they'll skin us and with blood in the water Waterford could easily take us too. Ultimately we need at least one result from the first two games to get out of Munster in my opinion

Strangely for a team who are going for a three in a row and 4 in 5 years We need actually need some momentum. It's going to be a long season and I think there will be plenty of ups and downs. No harm having another team raging hot favourites this early.
We've an extremely settled team with bucket loads of big game experience. The longer we stay in the championship the more confident I would be.

There has to be an incredible amount of internal motivation to win a three in a row. It would cement them as one of the greats."
My own view is that we will pick up momentum as we go through the round robin but I hate that we have Cork in Cork and then Waterford as our first two games. It's bloody difficult to win there.

On an overall basis, I think the big threat is Waterford and it's bothersome that we may have to play them 3 times. Two of them are possibly free hits.

I'd agree with other posters that the objective of the exercise is to get out of Munster and arrive in tip top shape in an All Ireland semifinal. However that's a path strewn with minefields so to get a win in Cork would be massively relieving. It would also do fierce damage to Cork who have no further home games as their County Board are chasing filthy lucre.

My overriding sense is that Limerick will be alright but I still have a premonition of anxiety because the opening two games are so difficult.

Back to Waterford for a second - it's actually no surprise that they've emerged as our challengers because of the quality of their 2013 minor and 2016 U21 All Ireland winning teams. They really mixed it with us in underage in those years. We beat them after a reply in the 2013 Munster minor final but lost to the Hawkeye point in the semifinal after which Waterford won out the All Ireland. Also they split our 2015 and 2017 All Ireland U21 wins by winning in 2016 after we lost to Tipp because our half back line was so weakened by the loss of Byrnes, Hegarty and O'Connell from the previous year. Ronan Lynch couldn't make the jump to starting centre back that year. It's amazing to think we won the 2105 U21 with 11 players straight out of minor who themselves failed to win the 2014 minor All Ireland. All we needed to win the 2017 U21 was to add Kyle Hayes from the 2016 minor team. He went straight into centre back at 19 years of age to star in that U21 championship and the following year, he's young player of the year and All Ireland man of the match as a centre forward. What a horse of a player! I'm dead certain that Cork will have detailed plans to try and contain him

Dealer (Limerick) - Posts: 835 - 03/04/2022 20:39:51    2409374

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Is Flanagan OK after the Dublin challenge match? Rumour is that he broke something and is out for two matches. Only hope that rumour is nothing more than that.

GerO.Racle (Limerick) - Posts: 47 - 04/04/2022 21:36:49    2409659

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Yes he was an Emly man but he was a Limerick Star that day. It amazes me that Michael D, himself being a Limerick man and all, did not invite Cian Lynch to dine after last years Final- after all the precedent has been set."
I suppose Limerick eventually gave 'em back Mossy and the Bomber, plus Conor Donovan to settle that long outstanding debt!

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1903 - 05/04/2022 11:23:38    2409710

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For those going to terraces for limerick v cork - limerick are in the city end terrace .

OpenStand (Limerick) - Posts: 671 - 05/04/2022 16:31:24    2409819

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Well done to the under 20s tonight. Extremely hard luck on Clare. The best team lost tonight. 15 scores to 10. Out lads showed great heart to keep the fight going.
Up front ended up being a one man show with Cathal o'neil. I thought this year there would have a bit more balance with English, O'Connor going well particularly with the ul freshers. P kirby did well up too in fairness.
Beaten in lots of areas in the pitch for big spells which was worrying.

Coughlan and Quilty did extremely well to drive on from the back in the second half.
A couple of top drawer saves definitely helped pull it out of the bag tonight. O'Neil is unbelievable at taking responsibility.
Hopefully more of an all round performance the next night

Mads (Limerick) - Posts: 366 - 06/04/2022 20:43:10    2410045

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Got out of jail with that result..a lot of fellas might have read to much about themselves..must question why management only made 2 changes,first made on 54 minutes..it might be a kick in the ..se a few need..cork in 2 weeks will be very tough with the possibility of Coughlan and o neill gone..only good thing is they actually won..I really hate being critical of young hurlers

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2208 - 06/04/2022 20:54:15    2410046

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Beyond steeped in good fortune to win that game. Cathal O'Neill is a diamond and he did get good support from Coughlan and Quilty particularly in the second half but the rest was poor and I also hate to be too critical or judgemental about young players but most of these lads are unlikely to see the inside of a senior intercounty dressing room. If I'm a Clare supporter, I'd be very pleased at the way that they played which with method and intent. Just a few comments as is my want:

I thought the pitch looked really rough. Is there a lot of work going on with it right now?
The team last night was made up of guys like O'Neill and Co who are getting senior interco exposure on one end and guys like Shane O'Brien at the other end of the spectrum. I wonder if that's too wide and should we be playing U17, U19 and U21 with the proviso that U17's can't play U21? Also you should be allowed to play in your age grade regardless of whether you're exposed to senior hurling or not. The Limerick U20 team without O'Neill are severely depleted.
The referring standard between senior and U20 has narrowed. In the past, ref's were blowing for a lot more in this grade. It was play away in a lot of situations last night.
U20 management team don't inspire my confidence - I thought that a lot of starters were very fortunate to stay on as long as they did. Also, we seemed to have no method or reason to a lot of our play.

Dealer (Limerick) - Posts: 835 - 07/04/2022 10:34:29    2410081

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Replying To Dealer:  "Beyond steeped in good fortune to win that game. Cathal O'Neill is a diamond and he did get good support from Coughlan and Quilty particularly in the second half but the rest was poor and I also hate to be too critical or judgemental about young players but most of these lads are unlikely to see the inside of a senior intercounty dressing room. If I'm a Clare supporter, I'd be very pleased at the way that they played which with method and intent. Just a few comments as is my want:

I thought the pitch looked really rough. Is there a lot of work going on with it right now?
The team last night was made up of guys like O'Neill and Co who are getting senior interco exposure on one end and guys like Shane O'Brien at the other end of the spectrum. I wonder if that's too wide and should we be playing U17, U19 and U21 with the proviso that U17's can't play U21? Also you should be allowed to play in your age grade regardless of whether you're exposed to senior hurling or not. The Limerick U20 team without O'Neill are severely depleted.
The referring standard between senior and U20 has narrowed. In the past, ref's were blowing for a lot more in this grade. It was play away in a lot of situations last night.
U20 management team don't inspire my confidence - I thought that a lot of starters were very fortunate to stay on as long as they did. Also, we seemed to have no method or reason to a lot of our play."
Agree Definitely lacked a lot of cohesion last night. Got caught in possession numerous times. Clare in contrast knew exactly what they wanted to do and moved the ball at pace. The players certainly didn't look like the same crew that performed to a relatively high standard at minor level. Hopefully they will dust off the performance and be more purposeful next day out.

Also agree that the rule about losing an under 20 player if he plays senior is absolutely ridiculous.
Usually if they are deemed good enough to play at senior level they are gone passed the leaving cert stage at least. Young lads need as much exposure as possible to develop. The way the lad turned the game on its head last night and his general high standard of performances in the league, it's hard to imagine CO'N not having some role with the seniors against Cork. Don't know how the under 20 championship will turn out but it's shocking to think he may miss out on the experience of a potential munster final. I think of a player has completed his leaving then he should be eligible to play both under 20 and senior if required

Mads (Limerick) - Posts: 366 - 07/04/2022 20:32:48    2410196

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