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Replying To Shocs07:  "Can we move on please from all this nonsense about cards, fouls and simulatins etc."
Jaysus that would be great.

daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 1119 - 22/03/2022 16:15:25    2406534

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Replying To Clubgaa:  "Do you not think that Richie English deserves to start after having an outstanding league. If players are picked on form he is in pole position along with Nash to start. I know that creates a problem has it means Finn plays fullback, but we need form players againt Cork on the field."
Good point but for me you need sean in the corner. He's a specialist corner back as is Nash. Full back is a specialised position even in the modern game. Dan has started slowly but im sure he'll come right at he's a phenomenally good full back. I think the move to 7 v offaly was good for him to sharpen up his hurling. I also think Sean prefers ro play 2.

I'd start finn Dan and nash if all 3 are going well before cork. There is nothing wrong with having Casey and English in reserve. Lots of matches will bring niggles and injuries and these lads wil probably get a start before munster is done with.

daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 1119 - 22/03/2022 16:19:38    2406535

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Replying To daveboy:  "Good point but for me you need sean in the corner. He's a specialist corner back as is Nash. Full back is a specialised position even in the modern game. Dan has started slowly but im sure he'll come right at he's a phenomenally good full back. I think the move to 7 v offaly was good for him to sharpen up his hurling. I also think Sean prefers ro play 2.

I'd start finn Dan and nash if all 3 are going well before cork. There is nothing wrong with having Casey and English in reserve. Lots of matches will bring niggles and injuries and these lads wil probably get a start before munster is done with."
I would agree with all that. Richie would be very unlucky to miss out on starting. Nash has looked our most in form player to date and Sean Finn has been the best corner back in the country for the last couple of years he is unlucky to be competing against these guys.

I think JK may potentially have a surprise positional change or two up his sleeve that he hasn't shown yet and Richie will see a lot of action whether he starts some games or not.

Fitzy01 (Limerick) - Posts: 384 - 22/03/2022 16:29:20    2406540

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Replying To Shocs07:  "Can we move on please from all this nonsense about cards, fouls and simulatins etc."
Just dropped in for a nose about the vibe in Limerick and find Canuck moaning here too!
Anyway, back to hurling. I still think Limerick are the team to beat and anybody who thinks otherwise is being lead in to a false sense of security.
I will be absolutely amazed if they don't win Munster, in spite of the poor league.

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1729 - 22/03/2022 16:34:13    2406544

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StorysTash on here using the Limerick page to take a dig but okay with that use. Making the point about using a Waterford page that don't exist. Limerick I view your page also because of the interest and respect for Limerick. I am not moaning about any thing just made a point and we now see points made in general on other county pages.
The point I was making the sending off was mistake. Sometimes we need to look at how others do things. Austin Mathews of the Maple Leafs got two games and $100,000 fine for checking to the head. A few weeks earlier another player was equited for a head hit because the opponent moved after he initiated his hit and deemed incidental contact. Unfortunately the ref does not have that option in a split second. A mistake and the last word on it. I will chat the odd time with you guys but in large leave it to yourselves.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2653 - 22/03/2022 17:02:27    2406554

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Replying To clooney:  "No point in going back to him Larry the two incidents were totally different one a shoulder to head a red card IMO

In Ennis the Clare players midriff collided with Cian Lynch perhaps a bit careless but no where near a shoulder"
Well I never said it was a red card offence, but as you seem to agree it was careless and Lynch was struck in the helmet as he was bending to pick up the ball. He was clearly dazed after it. If player safety is that important why do it not apply to Lynch.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4315 - 22/03/2022 17:47:08    2406564

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Replying To Fitzy01:  "I would agree with all that. Richie would be very unlucky to miss out on starting. Nash has looked our most in form player to date and Sean Finn has been the best corner back in the country for the last couple of years he is unlucky to be competing against these guys.

I think JK may potentially have a surprise positional change or two up his sleeve that he hasn't shown yet and Richie will see a lot of action whether he starts some games or not."
Richie English isn't good enough to start. Its as simple as that. Mike Casey is a far superior player and Englishs prone to the 'disaster' pass. One problem with Richie is he throws the ball all the time. 2 his stick passing is poor. Do people forget last year's munster final when he got roasted and asked to be taking off. Lads he's a good solid country fella but Dan and Mike Casey ,Nash and obviously Finn are miles ahead of him

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 22/03/2022 19:35:42    2406582

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "Just dropped in for a nose about the vibe in Limerick and find Canuck moaning here too!
Anyway, back to hurling. I still think Limerick are the team to beat and anybody who thinks otherwise is being lead in to a false sense of security.
I will be absolutely amazed if they don't win Munster, in spite of the poor league."
in my opinion Kiely has a much bigger task this year to get the team ready for championship then he had after last years league. He has 3 weeks to get a lot of players up to championship level. He has tactically the best keeper in the country and has an abundance of talent for his full back line. The half backline will most probably be unchanged from last year but he must be thinking that he could move Dan to half back and push Hayes up the field where we have struggled in the league. Midfield and half forwards were very in consistent in the league but they have the class and hopefully can regain the form that they had this past 2 seasons. O Neill has played in all the games so far so if form is off in training he must be giving John plenty of thoughts about starting him. I would bavk Mulcahy to do enough in training to convince Msnagement that he is the man for the vacant corner position. All in all we still have a very strong team and have an excellent chance of winning Munster.

Clubgaa (Limerick) - Posts: 879 - 22/03/2022 20:08:22    2406590

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Replying To LarryOBrother:  "DJ Foran deserved to go. Similar to Flanagan and Kingston when you make contact with a players head either trying to shoulder them or by raising your elbow you deserve the line.
Can't recall the Lynch incident in Clare to be honest but i have it recorded here so if you give the time it happened during the game and the Clare player i'll get back to you on it."
Larry. On the tape take it up at 29.50 with Dermot Byrnes lining up a free. The 'Midriff tackle' argument is pure nonsense. I have just looked at the incident four times and it should certainly not have gone unpunished.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4315 - 22/03/2022 20:25:57    2406593

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Larry. On the tape take it up at 29.50 with Dermot Byrnes lining up a free. The 'Midriff tackle' argument is pure nonsense. I have just looked at the incident four times and it should certainly not have gone unpunished."
See where your coming from but Jason McCarthy didn't lead with the shoulder or elbow and i don't think he was even trying to tackle Lynch.

My interpretation would be that when you make contact with a players head either trying to shoulder them or by raising your elbow then you deserve the line.

Anyway, thankfully anyone who got hit or got red will be available for championship. That the main thing.

LarryOBrother (Wexford) - Posts: 409 - 23/03/2022 10:18:32    2406620

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Replying To bloodyban:  "Richie English isn't good enough to start. Its as simple as that. Mike Casey is a far superior player and Englishs prone to the 'disaster' pass. One problem with Richie is he throws the ball all the time. 2 his stick passing is poor. Do people forget last year's munster final when he got roasted and asked to be taking off. Lads he's a good solid country fella but Dan and Mike Casey ,Nash and obviously Finn are miles ahead of him"
Richie is a very good CORNER BACK not a full back and he has been going well this year. Great to have Mike Casey back but still a big risk throwing him into the cauldron that will be Cork, hopefully he can work his way into the team as the year goes on. If management throw 1 of these lads in then this will free up Nash or Morrissey and ultimately Hayes and that will shake up the whole team. For me Cathal O'Neil has played his way into the team but playing him out the field will give you 2 only insane that will change the shape of the team, is that too many changes to make from a tried and trusted formula?

updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 812 - 23/03/2022 11:31:30    2406641

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Richie has been excellent so far,but I'd agree on finn and Nash at corner back..if I remember in munster final last year,Richie started full back..in all fairness the way tipp were playing and how limerick were in first half didn't help..a few more could have been taken off..think most would be in agreement that o neill looks to be closest to a starting spot..again a worry has to be lack of match practice for Kyle Hayes,hopefully I'll be proved wrong..I'd be starting Mul because I don't think he has the impact off the bench..think kiely will have a surprise or 2 for championship..huge 3 weeks preparation for all counties..panels more important this year with league and championship so close,injuries and suspensions will be key for all..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2202 - 23/03/2022 11:35:42    2406642

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Replying To Clubgaa:  "in my opinion Kiely has a much bigger task this year to get the team ready for championship then he had after last years league. He has 3 weeks to get a lot of players up to championship level. He has tactically the best keeper in the country and has an abundance of talent for his full back line. The half backline will most probably be unchanged from last year but he must be thinking that he could move Dan to half back and push Hayes up the field where we have struggled in the league. Midfield and half forwards were very in consistent in the league but they have the class and hopefully can regain the form that they had this past 2 seasons. O Neill has played in all the games so far so if form is off in training he must be giving John plenty of thoughts about starting him. I would bavk Mulcahy to do enough in training to convince Msnagement that he is the man for the vacant corner position. All in all we still have a very strong team and have an excellent chance of winning Munster."
I'd agree with most of that. The main difference for me this year is "freshness". Limerick are going for 3 in a row AIs and only for a bit of an officiating mess could be going for 5 in a row. That's where this bunch are at. They are a team now solely focused on getting the players ready and mentally prepared for the championship and this year unlike last 2 will be a much longer and demanding campaign.

I've no doubt they'll be slightly undercooked come April 17th but they were undercooked v cork in munster semi last year. Its a risk naturally but the benefits are huge. There are countys currently going hard since November and for me are at championship pace for last 4 weeks or so. Its well known that this is hard to maintain mentally as well as physically for 6 months.

Tactically I feel limerick will modify this year but not hugely. I don't see hayes pushed up. I think they'll develop puck out strategy to counter the opposition which was evident in the offaly match. They'll sharpen each other up in the in house matches. No better men than byrnes/hayes to get Tom and hego tuned in. Likewise mul will be sharpening up v finn and nash. All going hard. I believe the kerry training camp was huge and there seems to be a feeling the minds are focusing in. The physical work is done. Caroline Currid has been involved more so recently than before so its all gearing towards a 4 week training block. 6 week munster block and 4 week AI series block if they get there. This is how modern sports set ups work. Planning, preparation, targeting, phasing and execution.

The thing ive noticed in the main is the constant improvement in work rate and tackle count over the last few weeks. The touch was evident v offaly opposition aside. These lads come alive on the sod in the Gaelics after the hard couple of months in Rathkeale and the weather improving.

Limerick unlike other countys are on a much different path to the year and we will see come July who gets it right.

Intriguing.

Luimneach abú

daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 1119 - 23/03/2022 11:42:37    2406645

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Replying To bloodyban:  "Richie English isn't good enough to start. Its as simple as that. Mike Casey is a far superior player and Englishs prone to the 'disaster' pass. One problem with Richie is he throws the ball all the time. 2 his stick passing is poor. Do people forget last year's munster final when he got roasted and asked to be taking off. Lads he's a good solid country fella but Dan and Mike Casey ,Nash and obviously Finn are miles ahead of him"
Its always easy to pick out lads who have never hurled to any decent standard making comments. What condescending bull - "good solid country fella".

McFan88 (Limerick) - Posts: 447 - 24/03/2022 09:51:57    2406782

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Replying To McFan88:  "Its always easy to pick out lads who have never hurled to any decent standard making comments. What condescending bull - "good solid country fella"."
Ya i have to agree with you. He's been a great servant of Limerick hurling with plenty more to give.

Shocs07 (Limerick) - Posts: 372 - 24/03/2022 12:41:28    2406831

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Replying To daveboy:  "I'd agree with most of that. The main difference for me this year is "freshness". Limerick are going for 3 in a row AIs and only for a bit of an officiating mess could be going for 5 in a row. That's where this bunch are at. They are a team now solely focused on getting the players ready and mentally prepared for the championship and this year unlike last 2 will be a much longer and demanding campaign.

I've no doubt they'll be slightly undercooked come April 17th but they were undercooked v cork in munster semi last year. Its a risk naturally but the benefits are huge. There are countys currently going hard since November and for me are at championship pace for last 4 weeks or so. Its well known that this is hard to maintain mentally as well as physically for 6 months.

Tactically I feel limerick will modify this year but not hugely. I don't see hayes pushed up. I think they'll develop puck out strategy to counter the opposition which was evident in the offaly match. They'll sharpen each other up in the in house matches. No better men than byrnes/hayes to get Tom and hego tuned in. Likewise mul will be sharpening up v finn and nash. All going hard. I believe the kerry training camp was huge and there seems to be a feeling the minds are focusing in. The physical work is done. Caroline Currid has been involved more so recently than before so its all gearing towards a 4 week training block. 6 week munster block and 4 week AI series block if they get there. This is how modern sports set ups work. Planning, preparation, targeting, phasing and execution.

The thing ive noticed in the main is the constant improvement in work rate and tackle count over the last few weeks. The touch was evident v offaly opposition aside. These lads come alive on the sod in the Gaelics after the hard couple of months in Rathkeale and the weather improving.

Limerick unlike other countys are on a much different path to the year and we will see come July who gets it right.

Intriguing.

Luimneach abú"
I'd agree with all of this. Ritchie was consistently good throughout the league but he only gets in if Hayes moves up. I think there are mind games going on here - will he/won't he. Certainly, he would be a totally different proposition for the Cork backs than Cian Lynch. My gut is that JK will have something different on the day and he has options. I'll be intrigued as to how the league semifinals go this weekend.

Dealer (Limerick) - Posts: 835 - 24/03/2022 13:17:56    2406843

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Replying To bloodyban:  "Richie English isn't good enough to start. Its as simple as that. Mike Casey is a far superior player and Englishs prone to the 'disaster' pass. One problem with Richie is he throws the ball all the time. 2 his stick passing is poor. Do people forget last year's munster final when he got roasted and asked to be taking off. Lads he's a good solid country fella but Dan and Mike Casey ,Nash and obviously Finn are miles ahead of him"
To me, that's a very ignorant comment and quite disrespectful. Was English lacking all these things that you state, in 2018 when he was one of the foremost at the coalface when Limerick came in from the cold (the hardest year); actually when he was deemed "good enough solid country fella" to get an All-star?

I follow Limerick, and often pop onto this forum, and have done for years. For years now, you've been a negative PITA, and I could sorta put up with that in the bad old days when Limerick was losing. But why such personalized vindictive comment on a fine player? Even though he might not be on the first 15 for Limerick, every other hurling county would wrap Richie English in their arms and welcome him into their full-back line.

Bloodyban, were you actually happier when Limerick was winning jack all? When you could come on here and complain all day long (go back and check out the type of post that bloodyban put up here pre-2018) about who and what was wrong with Limerick hurling?

Limerick could win in 2022 or not. But why be so negative either way, and why malign a fine player in the process? Limerick hurling costs you nothing, but cheap comments.

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1902 - 24/03/2022 14:43:08    2406861

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "To me, that's a very ignorant comment and quite disrespectful. Was English lacking all these things that you state, in 2018 when he was one of the foremost at the coalface when Limerick came in from the cold (the hardest year); actually when he was deemed "good enough solid country fella" to get an All-star?

I follow Limerick, and often pop onto this forum, and have done for years. For years now, you've been a negative PITA, and I could sorta put up with that in the bad old days when Limerick was losing. But why such personalized vindictive comment on a fine player? Even though he might not be on the first 15 for Limerick, every other hurling county would wrap Richie English in their arms and welcome him into their full-back line.

Bloodyban, were you actually happier when Limerick was winning jack all? When you could come on here and complain all day long (go back and check out the type of post that bloodyban put up here pre-2018) about who and what was wrong with Limerick hurling?

Limerick could win in 2022 or not. But why be so negative either way, and why malign a fine player in the process? Limerick hurling costs you nothing, but cheap comments."
Good post

Shocs07 (Limerick) - Posts: 372 - 24/03/2022 19:51:21    2406937

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Replying To bloodyban:  "Richie English isn't good enough to start. Its as simple as that. Mike Casey is a far superior player and Englishs prone to the 'disaster' pass. One problem with Richie is he throws the ball all the time. 2 his stick passing is poor. Do people forget last year's munster final when he got roasted and asked to be taking off. Lads he's a good solid country fella but Dan and Mike Casey ,Nash and obviously Finn are miles ahead of him"
Bloodyban I just dont understand how any Limerick supporter could say that about Richie English. Richie is plenty, plenty, plenty good enough to play for Limerick. Maybe we have 2 better corner backs and isn't thst just wonderful for Limerick that we have such string competition for starting places. You should retract your ignorant statement.

Clubgaa (Limerick) - Posts: 879 - 24/03/2022 20:57:51    2406939

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Replying To bloodyban:  "Richie English isn't good enough to start. Its as simple as that. Mike Casey is a far superior player and Englishs prone to the 'disaster' pass. One problem with Richie is he throws the ball all the time. 2 his stick passing is poor. Do people forget last year's munster final when he got roasted and asked to be taking off. Lads he's a good solid country fella but Dan and Mike Casey ,Nash and obviously Finn are miles ahead of him"
Are you serious , delirious or trying to be mysterious with "Lads, he's a good solid country fella"..as opposed to a sophisticated city expert pundit such as yourself? But , hey little boy.. mission accomplished as you have gotten 5 or 6 replies to your pulp fiction on here, (all negative) , but at least you got attention,

By the way , are you still working on on organizing a parade or public tribute to the "great British Generals"' that you referred to a few years ago. I still have that post of yours somewhere in archive if needed and just mention now for those who may not Knut where you are coming from.
You remind me of the chap who shows up at a foot parade on a 10' penny farthing bike.. it's all about grabbing attention..
" a solid country fella"??

PS you were going to "have a chat with the administrator when I called you out for your BS a few years ago.. how did that go…
Good luck , you have 2 or 3 cronies who may side with you here.. but other replies have your number.








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PatOLogical (Limerick) - Posts: 1353 - 24/03/2022 21:32:11    2406945

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