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Replying To CARPS:  "I think a solution there is to reduce each grade to six teams and then ban second teams from Senior, Intermediate and Junior A.

Before anyone says "that just means Eire Og will win Junior B every year," no it won't. Playing junior B wouldn't be attractive so better players from the intermediate side would consider moving to Asca, Tinryland or the Blues.

Also, given half the county lives in the the town, I think chaps from the town should be allowed to play for whoever they want. If a guy from New Oak Estate wants to play for Ballon or Grange, why not?

ps. I think the original long post above is a very good idea. But I don't think our clubs would have the ambition to do it."
Have you no parish rule in Carlow?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 20671 - 10/09/2026 14:22:51    2693414

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Replying To CarlowJuniorB:  "Lads from the town won't want to play with other teams outside of the town. They want to play with people they're in school with and grow up with. Plus will parents drive out of town all the time?"
Did I say it would be compulsory? I said it should be an option. That's all. Nobody is forcing them.

CARPS (Carlow) - Posts: 1146 - 10/09/2026 15:34:36    2693425

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Replying To ACarlowGael:  "What's unfair is someone playing senior for 5 minutes and getting no more game time for the rest of the year after training for 8/9 months"
Them are the breaks.

It's still a lot fairer than giving bigger clubs an advantage against smaller clubs.

However, if we had separate reserve competitions for 2nd and 3rd teams, that would be another story.

What about six senior clubs, six intermediate and eight Junior A, with no second teams allowed?

CARPS (Carlow) - Posts: 1146 - 10/09/2026 15:37:06    2693426

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Replying To ACarlowGael:  "What's unfair is someone playing senior for 5 minutes and getting no more game time for the rest of the year after training for 8/9 months"
That's nothing to do with Carlow Gaa. It's up to clubs and to deal with that issue. It would definitely be abused in the early stages of the championship anyway

Collio (Carlow) - Posts: 149 - 10/09/2026 16:36:02    2693442

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very good relegation last night. MLR were the stronger team overall and deserved the win. Some score to win it

Dualclub1 (Carlow) - Posts: 310 - 10/09/2026 17:08:38    2693451

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Replying To Collio:  "That's nothing to do with Carlow Gaa. It's up to clubs and to deal with that issue. It would definitely be abused in the early stages of the championship anyway"
Just happened to browse in here like I do from time to time and want to point out that it's not actually a case of "nothing to do with Carlow GAA". They could do something about if they wanted to.

For instance, here in Wexford, clubs play five group games in both hurling and football championships, and after Round 3 of the group games, they can apply to regrade up to three players. So if you get a few minutes of a run with your Seniors sometime in the first three games, it doesn't necessarily stop you from going back to play Junior later in the year.

And the regradings are subject to the approval of the CCC, rather than being automatically granted. So for example, after Round 3, if your Juniors have their next fixture before your Seniors do, you can't just regrade your three best Senior players to give your Juniors an unfair advantage. CCC would say "hold on now, they're key Senior players for you. You can't be dropping them down to your second team". But they would be likely to approve the regrading of a fringe player who maybe only started one of the three matches, or who just came on as a sub in one or two of them.

Anyway - no reason Carlow GAA couldn't develop a similar system to work there, if they wanted to do it.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 4019 - 10/09/2026 23:45:36    2693484

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "Just happened to browse in here like I do from time to time and want to point out that it's not actually a case of "nothing to do with Carlow GAA". They could do something about if they wanted to.

For instance, here in Wexford, clubs play five group games in both hurling and football championships, and after Round 3 of the group games, they can apply to regrade up to three players. So if you get a few minutes of a run with your Seniors sometime in the first three games, it doesn't necessarily stop you from going back to play Junior later in the year.

And the regradings are subject to the approval of the CCC, rather than being automatically granted. So for example, after Round 3, if your Juniors have their next fixture before your Seniors do, you can't just regrade your three best Senior players to give your Juniors an unfair advantage. CCC would say "hold on now, they're key Senior players for you. You can't be dropping them down to your second team". But they would be likely to approve the regrading of a fringe player who maybe only started one of the three matches, or who just came on as a sub in one or two of them.

Anyway - no reason Carlow GAA couldn't develop a similar system to work there, if they wanted to do it."
Thanks Pikeman - not saying any of the things I said previously are the right system but our current rules on grading of players are very harsh. St Mullins had to play a bunch of intermediates in their first game or two of the hurling championship and ended up withdrawing, MLR, Bagenalstown, Naomh Eoin all had players too that were taken from their intermediate team and got little game time thereafter.

In Kilkenny, the group stage is treated as league so players can play both until they play knockout championship. In reality, games are close together so it's rare that lads will play full games in both Senior and Junior championship on the one weekend.

ACarlowGael (Carlow) - Posts: 59 - 11/09/2026 10:21:35    2693494

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Replying To ACarlowGael:  "Thanks Pikeman - not saying any of the things I said previously are the right system but our current rules on grading of players are very harsh. St Mullins had to play a bunch of intermediates in their first game or two of the hurling championship and ended up withdrawing, MLR, Bagenalstown, Naomh Eoin all had players too that were taken from their intermediate team and got little game time thereafter.

In Kilkenny, the group stage is treated as league so players can play both until they play knockout championship. In reality, games are close together so it's rare that lads will play full games in both Senior and Junior championship on the one weekend."
I honestly don't know what your current regrading rules are, and would have to look at your bye-laws to find out. But the point is, something could indeed be done about it at local level. Any club could bring a motion to your Convention to seek a "better" method.

However, am conscious that with a relatively small number of clubs in Carlow, and the Management Committee of your County Board obviously having the same number of seats and votes as every other county, that it's far harder for the clubs to push through any change there if Management Committee doesn't want it. Particularly if you need a 60% or two-thirds majority to change an existing bye-law. The clubs would want to be well represented at Convention and be near unanimous in it!

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 4019 - 11/09/2026 12:05:38    2693508

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "Just happened to browse in here like I do from time to time and want to point out that it's not actually a case of "nothing to do with Carlow GAA". They could do something about if they wanted to.

For instance, here in Wexford, clubs play five group games in both hurling and football championships, and after Round 3 of the group games, they can apply to regrade up to three players. So if you get a few minutes of a run with your Seniors sometime in the first three games, it doesn't necessarily stop you from going back to play Junior later in the year.

And the regradings are subject to the approval of the CCC, rather than being automatically granted. So for example, after Round 3, if your Juniors have their next fixture before your Seniors do, you can't just regrade your three best Senior players to give your Juniors an unfair advantage. CCC would say "hold on now, they're key Senior players for you. You can't be dropping them down to your second team". But they would be likely to approve the regrading of a fringe player who maybe only started one of the three matches, or who just came on as a sub in one or two of them.

Anyway - no reason Carlow GAA couldn't develop a similar system to work there, if they wanted to do it."
I didn't say there was nothing they could do, I said it was nothing to do with them. It's a club issue. My club would actually majority benifit if the rules were to change, for example they're in the junior A relegation final at the minute, they almost certainly wouldn't be if they were able to regrade players mid season. I don't think it would be a popular idea to strengthen teams 2nd and 3rd teams when you see there are people here actually aren't happy with their inclusion at all and would prefer them in a championship of their own.

Collio (Carlow) - Posts: 149 - 11/09/2026 12:36:58    2693512

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