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Replying To rorysboys: "Good players win big games. As comer showed tonight. Step over the white line and that's where games are win. Sure a lot of Galway followers wanted Joyce gone after last year's defeat to mayo. . He's a hero now. You keyboard warriors are a special breed. Well done Rory on a great year .." Can you enlighten us as to what the announcement will be John or are you bluffing yet again?
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Replying To peiledoir20: "Can you enlighten us as to what the announcement will be John or are you bluffing yet again?" It'll be "if you were a real supporter you would already know without me needing to tell you"
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Replying To peiledoir20: "Can you enlighten us as to what the announcement will be John or are you bluffing yet again?" I'm no bluffer lad I'll leave that to you boys.. you waited this long another few days won't kill you. The official word is out almost two weeks, I'm surprised with social media that it's not out..ah well at least the boys who deserve to know have the word first. Have a nice day
rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2613 - 10/07/2022 10:24:24
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Well done to the ladies yesterday. Based on them losing in Ulster to Armagh and to cork in the round robin it was hard to be optimistic but they really delivered a performance. I thought Dublin were on a mission after last year against meath and the defeat to Donegal in the look league semi. Donegal out foxed them and outplayed them. It's the first final in 9 years that dublin won't be in. The first goal in the second half was so important and the run from Amy Boyle carr was super.
It doesn't get easier next week with meath. Hopefully a good crowd will be able to make it to Dublin for the semi.
Ulsterchamps_32 (Donegal) - Posts: 811 - 10/07/2022 11:19:28
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Replying To points50swiththeargyllsonthewrongfeet: "A competitive club scene probably helps the county team alright; but a minor downside is that it actually is a hindrance for Tyrone club teams in the Ulster Club. It's such a battle to win the county that teams are spent when they win it; and also they simply don't care as much (too happy to have won the county - the attitude that everything else is a mere bonus); and finally any team needs a run at the provincials. I remember Kilcoo guys saying how, at the start of their year, they set themselves a target of winning the Ulster and the All Ireland! But if you tried that ambitious crack in a Tyrone club, you'd be shouted down for "losing focus" and for being an idiot - it would be seen as pie-in-the-sky thinking / unlucky, to chat about that before winning the county. So what happens in Tyrone is a newbie team, very inexperienced in provincial terms, who has not paced themselves or timed their training for a provincial run, emerges, unprepared, after a heavy bout of celebrations, blinking in the headlights, and gets turned over by a grimly-determined team for another county, often a team who more or less expects to win their county and who, if you're like Cross or Derrygonnelly, more or less expects to win their county and therefore doesn't rate it as highly as any Tyrone club would. To win the county in Tyrone, you have to play out of your skin, and to be lucky also. Until Tyrone becomes a county where one or at most 2 teams generally are dominant (like Armagh, or Down), our clubs are unlikely ever to do much outside the county, unless by accident.
Bonner would have a lot of respect outside Donegal; seems like a decent guy, bit surprising to see how much flak he's taking here. I agree though that (thankfully for the rest of us), Murphy has often been wasted, trying to do everything instead of requiring others to put in the defensive hard yards and deploy the big man as a skilled wrecking ball in a score getting position. Personally speaking, it would be good to see him get another All Ireland." Reguarding the club sceen in Tyrone , i agree there are quite a few very good teams, but not a really first class outfit,, I think any team that wins their Co C ship has to bust a gut to do so , Kilcoo for example, won their last 3 Cship games by 2 points Carryduff taking them to extra time , When they got to Ulster , with the exception of Glen they were hammering teams, Any 1 of 4 or 5 teams could win the Down C ship, But in fairness to Kilcoo they seem to find a way, The safety net of the back door system probably helps, You know its not a bad thing in Tyrone that no team is winning 3 or 4 in a row, as i think it would affect the county set up , I think the last Tyrone team to win Ulster was Errigal Cairan, when they beat Downpatrick in the final 20 odd years ago, i was at it , Canavan was the man back then, Sorry to jump in on the Donegal fourm , to give my thoughts on that, On Donegal i do think you could have won at least 1 more AI , the covid year v Cavan players and management maybe took their eyeof the ball a bit , i do think thats 1 that got away
germac (Down) - Posts: 561 - 10/07/2022 11:44:39
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Replying To rorysboys: "I'm no bluffer lad I'll leave that to you boys.. you waited this long another few days won't kill you. The official word is out almost two weeks, I'm surprised with social media that it's not out..ah well at least the boys who deserve to know have the word first. Have a nice day" Knew the word two weeks ago but somehow cant divuldge now. To quote yourself LOL. Bluffer extrodinaire John. Good luck against Naomh Colmcille later.
peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 1188 - 10/07/2022 12:20:24
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Replying To Ulsterchamps_32: "Well done to the ladies yesterday. Based on them losing in Ulster to Armagh and to cork in the round robin it was hard to be optimistic but they really delivered a performance. I thought Dublin were on a mission after last year against meath and the defeat to Donegal in the look league semi. Donegal out foxed them and outplayed them. It's the first final in 9 years that dublin won't be in. The first goal in the second half was so important and the run from Amy Boyle carr was super.
It doesn't get easier next week with meath. Hopefully a good crowd will be able to make it to Dublin for the semi." I think they've been very good all year but I agree the loss to Cork in particular made it hard for me to be too optimistic going in to yesterday, but what a brilliant performance. Meath will be a huge test but the league final was a humdinger of a game, let's hope we come out the right side of it this time!
JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1432 - 10/07/2022 13:50:17
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Replying To peiledoir20: "Knew the word two weeks ago but somehow cant divuldge now. To quote yourself LOL. Bluffer extrodinaire John. Good luck against Naomh Colmcille later." I would love to tell you peildoir . But I know you know and your trying to belittle me as you always do. I'm not a bad lad might come across as arrogant, but I'm not. I just don't like people who disrespect people.
rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2613 - 10/07/2022 14:25:02
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Replying To rorysboys: "I would love to tell you peildoir . But I know you know and your trying to belittle me as you always do. I'm not a bad lad might come across as arrogant, but I'm not. I just don't like people who disrespect people." I think it's clear to everyone who's ever read your posts that you know nothing and you're proving it now.
peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 1188 - 11/07/2022 07:55:29
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Replying To peiledoir20: "I think it's clear to everyone who's ever read your posts that you know nothing and you're proving it now." Thanks for your kind words peiledoir, you obviously found out nothing over the weekend. Hanging out with the wrong crowd lad.
rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2613 - 11/07/2022 09:45:18
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Watching Derry in the semi final Saturday, it proved what a lot of supporters said after the ulster final, that this Derry team were a one trick pony, and if we had anything about us we would of beat them.
It also proved that if we had of kept murphy in full forward that day, he would have destroyed Rogers as he is alright going forward, but cant defend.
But most intelligent gaa people already knew this, except for a certain poster on here that has never played the game. We all know who he is.
I think our main aim now is to find a management team that is strong enough to implement a more aggressive style of football, where kick passing into the full forward line is your first option rather that the safty first approach of a hand pass sideways.
I also believe we have some catching up to do in our physical strength and fitness, as galway, kerry and the dubs look well ahead in that department.
Our next choice of Manager really is crucial, and really needs to be the correct one, as we dont want to fall further behind than we already are.
It was a joy to watch kerry in the first half yesterday, the kick passing into the full forward line. The full forward lines first throught was to turn and take on you man.
To often our players are afraid to take on there man for fear of getting taking off for losing possession.
The new management team will hopefully encourage players to take a chance and wouldn't it be great to watch a Donegal team play with no fear, and take it to the opposition.
We have some of the most skillful players in the country, encourage them to have a go, and with the right physical fitness, we are capable of beating anyone
The keeper (Donegal) - Posts: 711 - 11/07/2022 12:24:15
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Replying To The keeper: "Watching Derry in the semi final Saturday, it proved what a lot of supporters said after the ulster final, that this Derry team were a one trick pony, and if we had anything about us we would of beat them.
It also proved that if we had of kept murphy in full forward that day, he would have destroyed Rogers as he is alright going forward, but cant defend.
But most intelligent gaa people already knew this, except for a certain poster on here that has never played the game. We all know who he is.
I think our main aim now is to find a management team that is strong enough to implement a more aggressive style of football, where kick passing into the full forward line is your first option rather that the safty first approach of a hand pass sideways.
I also believe we have some catching up to do in our physical strength and fitness, as galway, kerry and the dubs look well ahead in that department.
Our next choice of Manager really is crucial, and really needs to be the correct one, as we dont want to fall further behind than we already are.
It was a joy to watch kerry in the first half yesterday, the kick passing into the full forward line. The full forward lines first throught was to turn and take on you man.
To often our players are afraid to take on there man for fear of getting taking off for losing possession.
The new management team will hopefully encourage players to take a chance and wouldn't it be great to watch a Donegal team play with no fear, and take it to the opposition.
We have some of the most skillful players in the country, encourage them to have a go, and with the right physical fitness, we are capable of beating anyone" Totally wrong easy playing nice attacking football with talented players. That's what Kerry have plus they have the best player in the country who is unmarkable.. when you win so many minor all Ireland s the conveyor belt coming through will always be strong. We along with all Ulster teams are way off the top teams. As I said numerous times if we go toe to toe with Kerry in a shootout we'd get beaten out the gate. To compete with the big boys we need to get a defence that can compete with the best forwards in the country. That's no disrespect to our boys but that's the level we have to get to. Managers can do so much but at the end of the day it's players that win the big games. You should know that keeper seeing you were a star with n Conal when they were an average intermediate team.
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papa_pump (Donegal) - Posts: 71 - 11/07/2022 13:35:52
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Replying To The keeper: "Watching Derry in the semi final Saturday, it proved what a lot of supporters said after the ulster final, that this Derry team were a one trick pony, and if we had anything about us we would of beat them.
It also proved that if we had of kept murphy in full forward that day, he would have destroyed Rogers as he is alright going forward, but cant defend.
But most intelligent gaa people already knew this, except for a certain poster on here that has never played the game. We all know who he is.
I think our main aim now is to find a management team that is strong enough to implement a more aggressive style of football, where kick passing into the full forward line is your first option rather that the safty first approach of a hand pass sideways.
I also believe we have some catching up to do in our physical strength and fitness, as galway, kerry and the dubs look well ahead in that department.
Our next choice of Manager really is crucial, and really needs to be the correct one, as we dont want to fall further behind than we already are.
It was a joy to watch kerry in the first half yesterday, the kick passing into the full forward line. The full forward lines first throught was to turn and take on you man.
To often our players are afraid to take on there man for fear of getting taking off for losing possession.
The new management team will hopefully encourage players to take a chance and wouldn't it be great to watch a Donegal team play with no fear, and take it to the opposition.
We have some of the most skillful players in the country, encourage them to have a go, and with the right physical fitness, we are capable of beating anyone" I agree with a lot of this. Derry's system works well up to a point, but it's not good enough to win the biggest prizes. OK they won Ulster and good luck to them, but I am of the belief that had we played with more conviction we would've beaten them. A lot of people saying that they're like we were in 2011. But I think we had more scope for improvement than they do. We had a young Murphy and McBrearty, plus a peak Colm Anthony. Derry have one marquee forward in McGuigan, the rest are decent but perhaps not at that top level.
Before the second Armagh game I mentioned on here that I'd be at peace with Donegal bowing out if they at least threw off the shackles and played a bit. And for about 20 minutes of the first half we did just that & looked a very dangerous team. Unfortunately we imploded just before halftime and couldn't recover. The trick for the management team in 2023, whoever it may be, will be to get the team playing more consistently and perhaps more importantly away from the cautious, safety first type football which has had its day. Galway showed the way the last day. Get good early ball into a dangerous full forward and make Rogers defend. Could Michael Murphy have replicated what Comer did the other day given the right type of ball? Absolutely.
Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9754 - 11/07/2022 13:44:48
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https://www.donegallive.ie/news/gaa/857839/donegal-gaa-s-july-county-committee-meeting-put-back-a-week.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook
Is this another stunt by the County Board?
Will they seek applications by Thursday morning between 8 a.m and 8:05 a.m. with the result at 8:06 a.m.?
SouthOfTheGap (Donegal) - Posts: 774 - 11/07/2022 14:02:48
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rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2613 - 11/07/2022 14:25:03
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If the rumours are true about Rochford getting sacrificed, it's a sad day. Something tells me that if Stephen was part of a solid backroom team with a manager who wasn't witless, we could be hard to stop.
I hope some club would have the spine to propose a motion to remove the county board chairman if Bonner continued. It would be a travesty, an insult to supporters and the people of the county.
Just because someone was part of the '92 squad or the 2012 squad doesn't make them a good coach or manager. Of course they gave us unforgettable memories and we view them with great sentimentality but sentiment isn't a great ingredient when it comes to important decisions like electing competent staff, which when ignored can leave us with long lasting ramifications, as we see in our slide towards our old spot of 23rd in the country.
StockholmGael (Donegal) - Posts: 143 - 11/07/2022 15:17:17
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Replying To StockholmGael: "If the rumours are true about Rochford getting sacrificed, it's a sad day. Something tells me that if Stephen was part of a solid backroom team with a manager who wasn't witless, we could be hard to stop.
I hope some club would have the spine to propose a motion to remove the county board chairman if Bonner continued. It would be a travesty, an insult to supporters and the people of the county.
Just because someone was part of the '92 squad or the 2012 squad doesn't make them a good coach or manager. Of course they gave us unforgettable memories and we view them with great sentimentality but sentiment isn't a great ingredient when it comes to important decisions like electing competent staff, which when ignored can leave us with long lasting ramifications, as we see in our slide towards our old spot of 23rd in the country." I've a feeling this is payback time to all the supporters who let them down in clones. You can't blame management for players not talking to the media now. It's off season so what is happening. Proper order most who call themselves so called supporters deserve to hear nothing anyway. .
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Replying To rorysboys: "I've a feeling this is payback time to all the supporters who let them down in clones. You can't blame management for players not talking to the media now. It's off season so what is happening. Proper order most who call themselves so called supporters deserve to hear nothing anyway. ." You think getting rid of Rochford is "payback time to all the supporters who let them down in clones"? What are you talking about?
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Replying To rorysboys: "Totally wrong easy playing nice attacking football with talented players. That's what Kerry have plus they have the best player in the country who is unmarkable.. when you win so many minor all Ireland s the conveyor belt coming through will always be strong. We along with all Ulster teams are way off the top teams. As I said numerous times if we go toe to toe with Kerry in a shootout we'd get beaten out the gate. To compete with the big boys we need to get a defence that can compete with the best forwards in the country. That's no disrespect to our boys but that's the level we have to get to. Managers can do so much but at the end of the day it's players that win the big games. You should know that keeper seeing you were a star with n Conal when they were an average intermediate team." Didn't we not go toe to toe with kerry in the super 8s a few years ago, so thats your argument beaten as per usual.
That game showed me that with proper encouragement and coaching and letting the team play with the shackles off, we are as good as anyone.
Now we have gone back under the same management, but there is no reason a new management team with more conviction and knowledge can not bring us back.
And i never played intermediate football. But by your attitude intermediate football is to be laughed at. Some great past and present footballers and clubs play intermediate football.
I am a real Gaa man and would not be critical of any club playing junior or intermediate football. As i remember the days our club won intermediate championships and were very proud to do so.
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