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Well done to your minors yesterday, great exhibition of young lads giving their all and not making excuses about population, resources etc. Sunday must have been disappointing for you but I think we would all trade a provincial title at any level for a Tinpot Cup win, that will be forgotten about in 2 weeks when Kildare hammer us and we are praying to draw NY or London in the preliminary QF.

gaelsboy (Leitrim) - Posts: 486 - 21/05/2024 11:22:11    2546100

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Replying To cavanman47:  "Congrats to Longford. That was a great win last night.

Is it true what they said on TG4? There are only 13 minor club sides in longford!
And no dedicated U16 grade.

Whereas Dublin have over 100 minor teams and over 70 u16 teams.

Really puts the win into perspective! Phenomenal achievement!"
There are 13 teams in Minor (U18) league competition in Longford at the moment, which is probably what TG4 meant. There is a dedicated U16 grade. Overall in Longford there are 17 underage units (4 are made up of more than 1 club). The quantity of teams in various underage competitions in Longford is:

U12: 18 Teams (2 from Colmcille, hence 17 + 1 extra)
U14: 17 Teams
U16: 16 Teams
U18: 13 Teams

The numbers reduce slightly when Championship comes around as some teams join up for Championship. For Minor for example, last years Minor 'A' Championship in Longford had 6 teams (4 of which were made up of more than 1 club), while the Minor 'B' Championship had 5 teams (3 of which were made up of more than 1 club).

So the comparison with Dublin is still stark and valid, but some of the TG4 detail was not quite right.

LongfordgaaAbú (Longford) - Posts: 497 - 21/05/2024 12:01:25    2546115

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Replying To LongfordgaaAbú:  "There are 13 teams in Minor (U18) league competition in Longford at the moment, which is probably what TG4 meant. There is a dedicated U16 grade. Overall in Longford there are 17 underage units (4 are made up of more than 1 club). The quantity of teams in various underage competitions in Longford is:

U12: 18 Teams (2 from Colmcille, hence 17 + 1 extra)
U14: 17 Teams
U16: 16 Teams
U18: 13 Teams

The numbers reduce slightly when Championship comes around as some teams join up for Championship. For Minor for example, last years Minor 'A' Championship in Longford had 6 teams (4 of which were made up of more than 1 club), while the Minor 'B' Championship had 5 teams (3 of which were made up of more than 1 club).

So the comparison with Dublin is still stark and valid, but some of the TG4 detail was not quite right."
What a win last night for our minor team.
A great group of lads and a management team that really seem to care of the players.

I never realised Colmcille had 2 teams in at under 12 until you mentioned it!
And fair play to them, both teams are doing well in the league.

Spinx (Longford) - Posts: 1246 - 21/05/2024 12:11:35    2546118

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Having watched the game last night one could one admire the fight and splendid football Longford brought to the Dubs. Some fantastic players you have and what leadership shown by the captain to kick the equalising score.

It's the second time you have overturned the Dubs this season so it was no flash in the pan.

Comhghairdeas libh go léir.

peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 848 - 21/05/2024 14:56:42    2546175

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Replying To keepitlit:  "Looks like the manager is just trying to get silverware to boost his job prospects further up the food chain. Using the the Outsider (3 of which are permitted) and the parentage rule has prevented or blocked local lads from playing. Its going beyond a joke"
Came here to wish the Longford hurlers the best of luck in Croke Park...

But now I'm interested in who Longford have got in and what opinion is of this within Longford??

MrPBoylan (Monaghan) - Posts: 139 - 21/05/2024 15:37:26    2546186

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Congratulations to Longford minors on a fantastic win last night - fully deserved, and a credit to all involved.

midlands (Westmeath) - Posts: 556 - 21/05/2024 16:03:51    2546200

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Can anyone explain why county players were unavailable for their clubs yesterday evening and I'm going to presume this evening too. Longford are practically out and don't play until the bank holiday weekend again. Completely undermining the league at this stage and leading to some strange results. Some of the bigger clubs are going to end up in relegation trouble. Ridiculous system IMO where teams that provide the most county players are being punished.

maximus02 (Longford) - Posts: 173 - 22/05/2024 09:19:39    2546297

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Replying To maximus02:  "Can anyone explain why county players were unavailable for their clubs yesterday evening and I'm going to presume this evening too. Longford are practically out and don't play until the bank holiday weekend again. Completely undermining the league at this stage and leading to some strange results. Some of the bigger clubs are going to end up in relegation trouble. Ridiculous system IMO where teams that provide the most county players are being punished."
CB bowing down to the great Paddy Christie.....makes me a little worried that he will be kept on as manager next year if this is true.

Frank74 (Longford) - Posts: 126 - 22/05/2024 10:47:50    2546324

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Replying To Frank74:  "CB bowing down to the great Paddy Christie.....makes me a little worried that he will be kept on as manager next year if this is true."
Our Dear Leader graciously allowed county players play with the clubs less than two weeks before a match of actual importance, the Leinster championship game. No logic in this with the Tailteann Cup gone barring a mathematical miracle. Players not getting a game with the county prevented from playing with their clubs. The board should not be allowing this happen

liosbreac6265 (Longford) - Posts: 219 - 22/05/2024 11:29:33    2546348

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Christie should be gone at end of year you swear we were kerry or Dublin why is he holding back players even kerry and i think mayo allow their subs or fringe players play County league

Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 237 - 22/05/2024 16:41:02    2546447

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Replying To Gaaforlife2023:  "Christie should be gone at end of year you swear we were kerry or Dublin why is he holding back players even kerry and i think mayo allow their subs or fringe players play County league"
Dublin let their subs play the same weekend of a game. The Dublin sub keeper got injured playing for his club in a league game the day before the Leinster final.

Frank74 (Longford) - Posts: 126 - 22/05/2024 17:45:59    2546463

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You'd have to fancy Granard to push on now and win their first ACFL Division 1 title in 31 years. If Rathcline beat Clonguish and Carrickedmond beat Killoe in the next round, we could have a situation where the top 4 heading into the Leader Cup contains only 1 county finalists from the last 20 years (Abbeylara).

LongfordgaaAbú (Longford) - Posts: 497 - 28/05/2024 10:00:32    2547845

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Replying To LongfordgaaAbú:  "You'd have to fancy Granard to push on now and win their first ACFL Division 1 title in 31 years. If Rathcline beat Clonguish and Carrickedmond beat Killoe in the next round, we could have a situation where the top 4 heading into the Leader Cup contains only 1 county finalists from the last 20 years (Abbeylara)."
And this is exactly why I said a few weeks back not to be paying too much heed into the league this season the way it is ran.
This is also the reason why there was a change made on how relegation was going to be sorted.

Frank74 (Longford) - Posts: 126 - 28/05/2024 11:17:45    2547869

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Replying To Frank74:  "And this is exactly why I said a few weeks back not to be paying too much heed into the league this season the way it is ran.
This is also the reason why there was a change made on how relegation was going to be sorted."
They are changing relegation now! a
After the joke of the way D1 was run for the last few years with an actual division split into 2 arbitrary and completely lopsided groups where teams get relegated without playing half the teams in the actual division. Such nonsense, with it now making a mockery of division 2 where one team who probably weren't close to the worst team in 'div 1' last year now running through div 2 like water through a sieve. For Colmcille to beat the only other unbeaten team in the league by 30 pints during the week and without 4 county players is just a farce!

GAALONGFORD (Longford) - Posts: 19 - 28/05/2024 12:34:16    2547892

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Replying To GAALONGFORD:  "They are changing relegation now! a
After the joke of the way D1 was run for the last few years with an actual division split into 2 arbitrary and completely lopsided groups where teams get relegated without playing half the teams in the actual division. Such nonsense, with it now making a mockery of division 2 where one team who probably weren't close to the worst team in 'div 1' last year now running through div 2 like water through a sieve. For Colmcille to beat the only other unbeaten team in the league by 30 pints during the week and without 4 county players is just a farce!"
The bottom 4 teams play off to see who gets relegated. 7 v 10 and 8 v 9. Two losers into the final with the loser of that been relegated.
You could go through the whole league losing all 9 games and could still stay up!!

Frank74 (Longford) - Posts: 126 - 28/05/2024 13:53:22    2547911

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Replying To Frank74:  "The bottom 4 teams play off to see who gets relegated. 7 v 10 and 8 v 9. Two losers into the final with the loser of that been relegated.
You could go through the whole league losing all 9 games and could still stay up!!"
Oh Lord, that's actually the way it should have been for the past few years when the division was split. Bottom 2 in each group play off. Do they actually understand what a league is?

GAALONGFORD (Longford) - Posts: 19 - 28/05/2024 19:19:21    2548011

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Division 2 is top team goes up only.
That's a bit of a joke in an 11 team league.
By right it should be bottom of Division 1 down, top of Division 2 up.
Then second bottom of Division 1 should play off against second in Division 2 for a spot in Division 1.
For the teams around midtable early in the year, there is nothing to play for in the league if there is only one spot going for promotion.

Spinx (Longford) - Posts: 1246 - 29/05/2024 12:21:34    2548119

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Replying To LongfordgaaAbú:  "Yeah there's very little between a few clubs in Longford at the minute. Add to that the fact that Killoe always struggle to put back to back titles together. You won't meet many in Killoe who would believe they are favourites this year, let alone streets ahead (?!). Clonguish will be favoured by many to push on this year but they will be wary of inviting that tag. Dromard capable of upsets, Granard too who are going well in the league. I'm going for Clonguish because on top of getting to the final last year and nearly winning it, they have won back to back U21 Championships (would have been 3 or 4 in a row if not for Covid) and 3 in a row Minor Championships and 4 in a row Juvenile Championships, many of those won by big scores. Also have a good few lads who won Fr. Manning Cup titles last year and in 2021 and will have 5 lads starting in the Leinster Minor final later on tonight. Very strong and coming up, whereas Killoe is strong but on the wane and in my view easily caught out (certainly not streets ahead)."
How do Killoe struggle to do back to back? You need to double check your stats. Since their run from 2012 they have only failed to do back to back once, and have since done it twice!! They have contributed to half the county team during the course of this year where Clonguish have not had a single player play. Our underage is very strong no doubt about that but the key man in getting so close last year was David Barden who I don't think we will be seeing in this year's championship!

liosbreac6265 (Longford) - Posts: 219 - 29/05/2024 12:41:59    2548126

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Replying To Frank74:  "The bottom 4 teams play off to see who gets relegated. 7 v 10 and 8 v 9. Two losers into the final with the loser of that been relegated.
You could go through the whole league losing all 9 games and could still stay up!!"
If the team that ends up top of the table at the end wins the Skelly Cup, then the team that ends up bottom should be relegated. At worst, the bottom 2 play off to decide who is relegated, but not the bottom 4 - that makes no sense at all and makes a mockery out of relegation.

LongfordgaaAbú (Longford) - Posts: 497 - 29/05/2024 12:51:45    2548134

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Replying To liosbreac6265:  "How do Killoe struggle to do back to back? You need to double check your stats. Since their run from 2012 they have only failed to do back to back once, and have since done it twice!! They have contributed to half the county team during the course of this year where Clonguish have not had a single player play. Our underage is very strong no doubt about that but the key man in getting so close last year was David Barden who I don't think we will be seeing in this year's championship!"
1961 - Knocked out in 1st game
1989 - Knocked out in 1st game
1994 - Knocked out in 1st game (replay)
1996 - Knocked out in 1st game
2013 - Knocked out in Quarter Final

Some of us have been around longer than you. We always struggle to come back the year after a win. In 2015 we were a much stronger outfit than we are now (and a step above all other clubs at the time) and still Abbey pushed us all the way and got man of the match out of it. Made it across the line in 2020 only after Slashers had 7 wides in the second half. I expect same struggle this time but with a weaker team than prior years.

LongfordgaaAbú (Longford) - Posts: 497 - 29/05/2024 13:02:20    2548139

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