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Replying To yew_tree:  "Didn't see too much commentary about unfair scheduling after we won the league last year. Mayo should have been comfortable today but fact is two poor enough teams nowhere near in the conversation for Sam."
Eye sight not the best or memory lapse? was lots of commentary and such chat was brought to congress but they decided it was too soon to make any changes to the new format yet, Mayo last year was off the back of winning national league title against Galway compared to Roscommon whom emptied the tank for 65 minutes against Dublin and lost by a flattering margin. That fact is obvious and before this championship started the objective for Mayo would be to reach All Ireland semi final at least and Quarter final for Roscommon. To be honest it will be up hill challenge for both to reach those objectives now.

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3428 - 02/06/2024 11:39:46    2548837

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I'm not trying to dance on the grave of Roscommon football today but doesn't it show that this All Ireland competition is a complete and utter farce. Ye have lost 3 championship matches and if you draw with Cavan ye will qualify for the knockout stages of the Championship . That's absolute bonkers

eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1778 - 02/06/2024 11:52:41    2548841

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I'd like to know why Mark McHugh and Gerry McGowan left the management team. Therein lies the answer to how bad we've been this year I think.
endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2207 - 01/06/2024 21:25:42

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Between them McHugh,McGowan gave us set and structured defensive platform that allowed us to draw with Dublin in Croke Park,beat Mayo in MacHale park and finish 3rd in Div 1. A sensitive Davy Burke took that daft national media criticism to heart after we drew and held Dublin to 1-11 and abandoned that style for a more "offensive game" that left us more open defensively so basically McHugh,McGowan services was no longer required and they left.

One Coach brought in this year to replace two was to go a long with what Burke wanted but this style of play simply hasn't worked and two weeks won't be enough time to change much now but hopefully we can finish this year off by avoiding a group stage exit.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3832 - 02/06/2024 11:55:38    2548843

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Replying To Gaa_lover:  "Eye sight not the best or memory lapse? was lots of commentary and such chat was brought to congress but they decided it was too soon to make any changes to the new format yet, Mayo last year was off the back of winning national league title against Galway compared to Roscommon whom emptied the tank for 65 minutes against Dublin and lost by a flattering margin. That fact is obvious and before this championship started the objective for Mayo would be to reach All Ireland semi final at least and Quarter final for Roscommon. To be honest it will be up hill challenge for both to reach those objectives now."
The point is Roscommon fans weren't complaining last year, unlike now. The championship game vs Roscommon in 2023 was Mayo's 4th match in consecutive weekends.

MayoDan (Mayo) - Posts: 434 - 02/06/2024 12:00:49    2548847

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Replying To The_analyser:  "I'd like to know why Mark McHugh and Gerry McGowan left the management team. Therein lies the answer to how bad we've been this year I think.
endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2207 - 01/06/2024 21:25:42

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Between them McHugh,McGowan gave us set and structured defensive platform that allowed us to draw with Dublin in Croke Park,beat Mayo in MacHale park and finish 3rd in Div 1. A sensitive Davy Burke took that daft national media criticism to heart after we drew and held Dublin to 1-11 and abandoned that style for a more "offensive game" that left us more open defensively so basically McHugh,McGowan services was no longer required and they left.

One Coach brought in this year to replace two was to go a long with what Burke wanted but this style of play simply hasn't worked and two weeks won't be enough time to change much now but hopefully we can finish this year off by avoiding a group stage exit."
Walking pace sidewards and backwards attacks, no tackling, no structure to defence, no off the shoulder running.
Yet we could have snaked an undeserved draw in the end as we just went for it on instinct in the last few minutes.

In a way we've now reached the "real" season.
Is it too late for reconstruct of the team?.
Stack to play further out, leave 2 men up at all times, do everything at pace, keep some of our elder statesnen in reserve for the 2nd half and defenders who stick to the heels of the man they're marking .

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1683 - 02/06/2024 12:23:04    2548856

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Is every good instinct now coached out of our players? Huge difference in how Mayo played compared to us. Their scores seemed to come so much more easily and from well rehearsed drills that played to their strengths. We seemed to abandon any of the positives of direct football we played against Dublin. We looked like a team afraid to go forward, or even worse, didn't know how to until the very end. I thought the ref was brutal, Mayo players seemed to be able to over carry and rugby tackle at will. However, sadly that isn't even an excuse, Mayo were better and it would have been robbery had we equlised at the death. I feel really sorry for the players, it's not for lack of effort. We look like a really naive set up and very easy to play against if you are a top 8 team. I don't want to hear any more excuses or nonsense talk from management for the rest of the summer. The attendance yesterday was terrible for a glorious Bank holiday weekend but you couldn't blame people watching sideways backways.

MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 959 - 02/06/2024 13:50:42    2548868

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Replying To MayoDan:  "The point is Roscommon fans weren't complaining last year, unlike now. The championship game vs Roscommon in 2023 was Mayo's 4th match in consecutive weekends."
Mayo had reached the league final with two games to spare and were able to field a 2nd choice team in round 7 against Monaghan. Playing Dublin in Croke Park in a championship match takes a lot out of any team and when you lost by that margin after giving a decent account of yourself for an hour wouldn't have helped matters plus Roscommon wouldn't have the strength, conditioning and fitness of Mayo or other top 6 teams.

Winning by 2 points which included a penalty that shouldn't have stood was not great by Mayo yesterday let's be honest and while Mayo will have their sights set on last four spot at least I'm think Mayo could be facing Quarter final exit for a 3rd year in a row.

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3428 - 02/06/2024 14:34:44    2548874

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Replying To Gaa_lover:  "Mayo had reached the league final with two games to spare and were able to field a 2nd choice team in round 7 against Monaghan. Playing Dublin in Croke Park in a championship match takes a lot out of any team and when you lost by that margin after giving a decent account of yourself for an hour wouldn't have helped matters plus Roscommon wouldn't have the strength, conditioning and fitness of Mayo or other top 6 teams.

Winning by 2 points which included a penalty that shouldn't have stood was not great by Mayo yesterday let's be honest and while Mayo will have their sights set on last four spot at least I'm think Mayo could be facing Quarter final exit for a 3rd year in a row."
Roscommon had 5 weeks off before the Dublin game though.

Plenty ref decisions went against Mayo yesterday as well - phantom red card, the line ball in the first half which led to a Roscommon point, the Ros penalty was a complete dive too.

Does anyone seriously think if the Mayo penalty wasn't given that Roscommon would have went on to win?

MayoDan (Mayo) - Posts: 434 - 02/06/2024 14:51:54    2548878

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "Not a whole lot in Longford, I safely bet."
Price of All Ireland tickets last thing on Roscommon 's minds today

B&G (Longford) - Posts: 295 - 02/06/2024 14:59:00    2548879

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Replying To MachaireConnacht:  "Is every good instinct now coached out of our players? Huge difference in how Mayo played compared to us. Their scores seemed to come so much more easily and from well rehearsed drills that played to their strengths. We seemed to abandon any of the positives of direct football we played against Dublin. We looked like a team afraid to go forward, or even worse, didn't know how to until the very end. I thought the ref was brutal, Mayo players seemed to be able to over carry and rugby tackle at will. However, sadly that isn't even an excuse, Mayo were better and it would have been robbery had we equlised at the death. I feel really sorry for the players, it's not for lack of effort. We look like a really naive set up and very easy to play against if you are a top 8 team. I don't want to hear any more excuses or nonsense talk from management for the rest of the summer. The attendance yesterday was terrible for a glorious Bank holiday weekend but you couldn't blame people watching sideways backways."
Don't believe there a was a huge difference to how Mayo played. They also kept just one player up front when out of possession. They had more pace on the counter attack especially McLaughlin and their scores came easier because they defended a lot better than us.

Main change they made from the last game against us was to crowd the middle eight as Roscommon won midfield fielding and breaking ball stats then.

The small crowds highlights what both supporters make of this All Ireland series group stage. Provincial championships is finished we are told yet Roscommon v Mayo in April had over 6k more in attendance than yesterdays game.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3832 - 02/06/2024 15:05:45    2548880

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Replying To MayoDan:  "Roscommon had 5 weeks off before the Dublin game though.

Plenty ref decisions went against Mayo yesterday as well - phantom red card, the line ball in the first half which led to a Roscommon point, the Ros penalty was a complete dive too.

Does anyone seriously think if the Mayo penalty wasn't given that Roscommon would have went on to win?"
Penalty goal for Mayo was a big momentum swing you never know how the game would have fared without it. Roscommon penalty was a foul by Callinan. Red card was in injury time haven't seen what it was for but it was 14 v 14 at that stage as Roscommon had used up all subs and Enda Smith was off injured.

If the boot was on the other foot whereby Mayo had played Dublin in Croke Park and lost by that margin after giving their all for an hour and played Roscommon who had 14 days rest/prep how do you think the game would have went considering Mayo only won by two yesterday and in the end was more than happy to hear the full time whistle?

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3428 - 02/06/2024 15:17:35    2548883

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Replying To Gaa_lover:  "Penalty goal for Mayo was a big momentum swing you never know how the game would have fared without it. Roscommon penalty was a foul by Callinan. Red card was in injury time haven't seen what it was for but it was 14 v 14 at that stage as Roscommon had used up all subs and Enda Smith was off injured.

If the boot was on the other foot whereby Mayo had played Dublin in Croke Park and lost by that margin after giving their all for an hour and played Roscommon who had 14 days rest/prep how do you think the game would have went considering Mayo only won by two yesterday and in the end was more than happy to hear the full time whistle?"
It was a big momentum swing because Roscommon went up and got the next two points. If Mayo hadn't got that they probably would have kept up the momentum of earlier in the 2nd half. It's all speculation of course.

Also, it wasn't Mayo or the ref that made Roscommon use up all their subs.

MayoDan (Mayo) - Posts: 434 - 02/06/2024 15:39:08    2548890

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Replying To The_analyser:  "Don't believe there a was a huge difference to how Mayo played. They also kept just one player up front when out of possession. They had more pace on the counter attack especially McLaughlin and their scores came easier because they defended a lot better than us.

Main change they made from the last game against us was to crowd the middle eight as Roscommon won midfield fielding and breaking ball stats then.

The small crowds highlights what both supporters make of this All Ireland series group stage. Provincial championships is finished we are told yet Roscommon v Mayo in April had over 6k more in attendance than yesterdays game."
Mayos style wasn't great on the eye but they looked like a well drilled team albeit O don't think will be challenging for Sam. We looked like a team that was playing together for the first time on some occasions. There were a number of times where one of our players has the ball and a team mate practically runs into him to receive it instead of running off the shoulder into space which you would think should be instinctual. I absolutely agree Mayo made it way more difficult to get scores. I can accept a defensive style of play if it pays dividends but we are conceding goals in nearly every game we play. Maybe it was different if looking back on the game on TV but we seemed to lack movement up front and missed the likes of a Ben O Carroll.

I know it was a quick turn around after the Dublin game but I agree with the Mayo poster. We had 5 weeks off. Management seemed to be even hinting that we weren't at full throttle for league and were looking to peak for this stage. If we are gassed now after two games we should be in the Tailteann Cup.

MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 959 - 02/06/2024 16:09:20    2548903

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It was a clear scheduling advantage for Mayo and I'd agree with GAA_lover that Mayo only winning by 2 points with the rub of the green on their penalty is a bit of surprise. Roscommon losing two good coaches has proved to be bigger loss than expected. Conor Daly,Eddie Nolan,Ciaran Murtagh,Cian McKeon are four big players to be without and can add Ben O'Carroll to that list as he's barely played this year.

Drax_the_destroyer (UK) - Posts: 169 - 02/06/2024 16:53:54    2548918

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Replying To The_analyser:  "I'd like to know why Mark McHugh and Gerry McGowan left the management team. Therein lies the answer to how bad we've been this year I think.
endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2207 - 01/06/2024 21:25:42

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Between them McHugh,McGowan gave us set and structured defensive platform that allowed us to draw with Dublin in Croke Park,beat Mayo in MacHale park and finish 3rd in Div 1. A sensitive Davy Burke took that daft national media criticism to heart after we drew and held Dublin to 1-11 and abandoned that style for a more "offensive game" that left us more open defensively so basically McHugh,McGowan services was no longer required and they left.

One Coach brought in this year to replace two was to go a long with what Burke wanted but this style of play simply hasn't worked and two weeks won't be enough time to change much now but hopefully we can finish this year off by avoiding a group stage exit."
That is an interesting take. If he was swayed by the media talk that is incredibly naive and must also spread doubt in the minds of a team who would have felt they were building something at that stage. How was there not a second coach brought in? I know you don't want sponsors interfering but if you were Mulryan or Hunt you'd be pulling your hair out and nearly insisting a replacement coach be brought in.

MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 959 - 02/06/2024 18:04:56    2548954

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Replying To Drax_the_destroyer:  "It was a clear scheduling advantage for Mayo and I'd agree with GAA_lover that Mayo only winning by 2 points with the rub of the green on their penalty is a bit of surprise. Roscommon losing two good coaches has proved to be bigger loss than expected. Conor Daly,Eddie Nolan,Ciaran Murtagh,Cian McKeon are four big players to be without and can add Ben O'Carroll to that list as he's barely played this year."
Rub of the green yes but if we got anything from that game it would have been daylight robbery. Second best all second half. Mayo could have had two more goals and had a stack of wides in the first half. We never looked like getting a goal until we had to go for broke at the end. E McLoughlin allowed run riot again despite all the warnings from the league game in Castlebar.

MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 959 - 02/06/2024 18:12:20    2548962

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Replying To MachaireConnacht:  "Rub of the green yes but if we got anything from that game it would have been daylight robbery. Second best all second half. Mayo could have had two more goals and had a stack of wides in the first half. We never looked like getting a goal until we had to go for broke at the end. E McLoughlin allowed run riot again despite all the warnings from the league game in Castlebar."
All that and still only lost by two points. Remember the stats for the Connacht final Galway was 2nd best and Mayo should have closed the game out but didn't and the rest is history as they say.

Drax_the_destroyer (UK) - Posts: 169 - 02/06/2024 18:48:41    2548971

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Replying To Drax_the_destroyer:  "It was a clear scheduling advantage for Mayo and I'd agree with GAA_lover that Mayo only winning by 2 points with the rub of the green on their penalty is a bit of surprise. Roscommon losing two good coaches has proved to be bigger loss than expected. Conor Daly,Eddie Nolan,Ciaran Murtagh,Cian McKeon are four big players to be without and can add Ben O'Carroll to that list as he's barely played this year."
Ye had a good win today over Westmeath today Drax. Shane Walsh ran half the length of the field and goaled. Galway v Armagh will be interesting but ye're in the best shape of any of the Connacht counties at this stage.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2254 - 02/06/2024 18:51:35    2548974

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First of all let me state that Mayo were the best team on the day and fully deserved their win. I am also extremely disappointed that Roscommon did not win the match which I expected them to do.

On mature reflection and having had a little time to review my thoughts, I am not as down in the dumps as a couple of posters on this forum, a couple of whom do not appear to live in the real world. In an open forum everyone is entitled to their opinion but sometimes it must be very demotivational for the players and management to read the somewhat unbalanced negativity from an odd poster

Mayo beat us convincingly in the Hyde in the league and were expected to do so again yesterday. When I checked the bookies odds a couple of minutes ago, Mayo are 16/1 for the All Ireland while Roscommon are 150/1. (Were 200/1 at one stage). Any reasonable supporter of Roscommon (like the bookies) has to take in consideration that we lost four top quality players from last year in Ciaran Murtagh, Cian McKeon, Eddie Nolan and Conor Daly. In addition Ben O' Carroll who was one of our top players last year has been effectively injured all year and Enda Smith has not been himself and may also have been carrying an injury for some time. In addition, Ultan Harney, Keith Doyle and Ronan Daly have all been recently been injured and not back to full speed yet. I know that Mayo was also missing a couple of players but not as much as Roscommon since last year.
As a result it would have been a fantastic victory if Roscommon had managed to put one over on Mayo on Saturday.

There were some positives which seemed to be ignored by some posters;
* Considering the above points we were only beaten by 2 points (not hammered by one of the favourites for the All Ireland.
* We scored 1-15 which is a reasonable score. (Not enough to win obviously).
* We had 10 players who scored, while we only had 3 scorers against Dublin. (The full forward line actually only scored three points from PLAY which includes the mark from Conor Cox).
* The penalty awarded to Mayo by Barry Cassidy should never have been awarded as he obviously took between 8 & 10 steps and O' Donoghue was not actually fouled at all in my opinion.
* The penalty which we received was borderline but we probably should have been awarded a second one for a foot block.
* Young players like McCormack, Higgins and Cregg are playing well and Stack is coming back into some form again.
* We have several very talented players.
* We were the strongest team towards the end. we were 6 points down at 69 minutes but pulled it back to 2 and had a chance to level it at the very end. (Point from Harney)

On the negative side it has to be pointed out that;
* We are conceding too many scores and our our defensive structure is not as good as last year.
* Our kickout strategy is not working as well as last year and we turned over the ball too many times. I was disappointed to see that a couple of turnovers happened when players did not go at full pace to collect a good pass and Mayo players came from several yards back to win the ball.
* We are not winning enough breaking ball in midfield even though we have players in that area.
* Not sure why we do not put one player directly in front of the goal when a long distance free is been taken. No ball came off the post yesterday but it might well have happened. In addition, when Conor Cox took the penalty, no other Roscommon player attacked the ball if is was saved, while about five Mayo defenders did so. This is fairly basic stuff in my opinion.
* We do not mix up our strategy very often. Why for example would we not ask Keith Doyle who must be 6'4" to drift into the square a couple of times to test out Cluxton and Reape in the last two games.
* A few times Conor Carroll could not take a quick kickout as he had to remove a second ball from the field. I posted a few weeks ago that there should be ball boys to do this job. While we had a strong wind in the first half it took about 20 minutes before someone copped on. You would not see this at an under 12 match. (Small point, but small points add up in close games)

I tough Barry Cassidy had a very poor game. He has not given Roscommon anything over the years. Two very poor decisions stand out; 1: the penalty for Mayo, 2: when he did not give Eoin McCormack a clear advantage in the first half. No doubt, mayo supporters will have many complaints also. In would be unfair to say however that Barry Cassidy cost us the game.
I looked at the Saturday game this morning. They showed about 7.5 mins of the actual match and 6 minutes of an interview with Kevin McStay. Some major decisions in the game were not shown (sending off, potential foot block) or not discussed (Ryan O' Donoghue penalty). Would not change the result but poor job overall. Maybe I am biased?

Hopefully Enda's injury is not as bad as it looked as he seemed to be in a lot of pain as he left the pitch. I wish him and Ben well.
Armagh have turned there season around today and hopefully Roscommon can continue to improve as they have done since the league in difficult circumstances. (without winning) The team continue to have my support as they are trying their best in difficult circumstances as outlined above. It is now they need all the support they can get.

The best of luck to Mayo in the championship. (except when you play the Rossies). Your defence played well yesterday and allowed very little space to our attackers who were given limited shooting opportunities.
Ye deserved your win yesterday.

letsgetgoing (Roscommon) - Posts: 585 - 02/06/2024 23:19:20    2549055

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Replying To letsgetgoing:  "First of all let me state that Mayo were the best team on the day and fully deserved their win. I am also extremely disappointed that Roscommon did not win the match which I expected them to do.

On mature reflection and having had a little time to review my thoughts, I am not as down in the dumps as a couple of posters on this forum, a couple of whom do not appear to live in the real world. In an open forum everyone is entitled to their opinion but sometimes it must be very demotivational for the players and management to read the somewhat unbalanced negativity from an odd poster

Mayo beat us convincingly in the Hyde in the league and were expected to do so again yesterday. When I checked the bookies odds a couple of minutes ago, Mayo are 16/1 for the All Ireland while Roscommon are 150/1. (Were 200/1 at one stage). Any reasonable supporter of Roscommon (like the bookies) has to take in consideration that we lost four top quality players from last year in Ciaran Murtagh, Cian McKeon, Eddie Nolan and Conor Daly. In addition Ben O' Carroll who was one of our top players last year has been effectively injured all year and Enda Smith has not been himself and may also have been carrying an injury for some time. In addition, Ultan Harney, Keith Doyle and Ronan Daly have all been recently been injured and not back to full speed yet. I know that Mayo was also missing a couple of players but not as much as Roscommon since last year.
As a result it would have been a fantastic victory if Roscommon had managed to put one over on Mayo on Saturday.

There were some positives which seemed to be ignored by some posters;
* Considering the above points we were only beaten by 2 points (not hammered by one of the favourites for the All Ireland.
* We scored 1-15 which is a reasonable score. (Not enough to win obviously).
* We had 10 players who scored, while we only had 3 scorers against Dublin. (The full forward line actually only scored three points from PLAY which includes the mark from Conor Cox).
* The penalty awarded to Mayo by Barry Cassidy should never have been awarded as he obviously took between 8 & 10 steps and O' Donoghue was not actually fouled at all in my opinion.
* The penalty which we received was borderline but we probably should have been awarded a second one for a foot block.
* Young players like McCormack, Higgins and Cregg are playing well and Stack is coming back into some form again.
* We have several very talented players.
* We were the strongest team towards the end. we were 6 points down at 69 minutes but pulled it back to 2 and had a chance to level it at the very end. (Point from Harney)

On the negative side it has to be pointed out that;
* We are conceding too many scores and our our defensive structure is not as good as last year.
* Our kickout strategy is not working as well as last year and we turned over the ball too many times. I was disappointed to see that a couple of turnovers happened when players did not go at full pace to collect a good pass and Mayo players came from several yards back to win the ball.
* We are not winning enough breaking ball in midfield even though we have players in that area.
* Not sure why we do not put one player directly in front of the goal when a long distance free is been taken. No ball came off the post yesterday but it might well have happened. In addition, when Conor Cox took the penalty, no other Roscommon player attacked the ball if is was saved, while about five Mayo defenders did so. This is fairly basic stuff in my opinion.
* We do not mix up our strategy very often. Why for example would we not ask Keith Doyle who must be 6'4" to drift into the square a couple of times to test out Cluxton and Reape in the last two games.
* A few times Conor Carroll could not take a quick kickout as he had to remove a second ball from the field. I posted a few weeks ago that there should be ball boys to do this job. While we had a strong wind in the first half it took about 20 minutes before someone copped on. You would not see this at an under 12 match. (Small point, but small points add up in close games)

I tough Barry Cassidy had a very poor game. He has not given Roscommon anything over the years. Two very poor decisions stand out; 1: the penalty for Mayo, 2: when he did not give Eoin McCormack a clear advantage in the first half. No doubt, mayo supporters will have many complaints also. In would be unfair to say however that Barry Cassidy cost us the game.
I looked at the Saturday game this morning. They showed about 7.5 mins of the actual match and 6 minutes of an interview with Kevin McStay. Some major decisions in the game were not shown (sending off, potential foot block) or not discussed (Ryan O' Donoghue penalty). Would not change the result but poor job overall. Maybe I am biased?

Hopefully Enda's injury is not as bad as it looked as he seemed to be in a lot of pain as he left the pitch. I wish him and Ben well.
Armagh have turned there season around today and hopefully Roscommon can continue to improve as they have done since the league in difficult circumstances. (without winning) The team continue to have my support as they are trying their best in difficult circumstances as outlined above. It is now they need all the support they can get.

The best of luck to Mayo in the championship. (except when you play the Rossies). Your defence played well yesterday and allowed very little space to our attackers who were given limited shooting opportunities.
Ye deserved your win yesterday."
Some interesting points in that post. I did in particular also notice Conor Carroll being delayed twice with his kick out by a second ball on the pitch and I agree this was avoidable. However, Roscommon were not well beaten by Mayo in the League in The Hyde. That match , the first of our three clashes with Mayo this year was played in Castlebar. Roscommon have lost players this year but so too have Mayo. Paddy Durcan ( arguably Mayo's most important player) is out for the season and Diarmuid O'Connor is also a huge loss to them. Think also of all the big name retirements in Mayo over the last few years- Keith Higgins, Colm Boyle etc. You quote bookies odds. Mayo have been in an All Ireland finals as recently as 2020 and 2021. We haven't won a championship match in Croke Park for 44 years. The odds tend to be reflective of performance over the last few years as much as of current chances. I haven't heard anybody tip Mayo as serious All Ireland contenders this year and they're not. The ref Cassidy was poor on Sunday but he wasn't the reason we lost the match. I thought Roscommon would learn from the Connacht semi final defeat against Mayo. We didn't . I look at the Roscommon senior football team and I do think we're underachieving,. I know people will post here that we're a small population county but I think we should be doing better. We have an All star and an All star nominee. We have in young Daire Cregg one of the standout players in this year's Sigerson cup competition. We reached the All Ireland U20 Final three years ago with plenty of young talent and have good minor and U20 teams this year. Our club champions, Brigid's , with a young team got to the All Ireland senior club Final this year and were minutes away from winning it. The Roscommon senior football team should be performing better than it is Whatever happens in the Cavan match, it's hard to see Roscommon going anywhere this campaign. We're just not good enough at the moment. You didn't comment in your post on the Manager. With the departures of Mark McHugh and Gerry McGowan after one season, the management of the team is all about Davy Burke and it's not working out unfortunately. He came to Roscommon with very little senior inter county management experience ( Wicklow) and he is not getting the best out of the players available to him. Something needs to change there. Already I'm looking ahead to 2025 because I think this season is just a write off for Roscommon.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2254 - 03/06/2024 05:50:36    2549067

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