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Replying To dave1988: "Any truth in Ben O'Carroll Keith Doyle and Cathal Heneghan all out of mayo game? ," Apparently o carroll didn't play against Kildare at the weekend
hontherossie (Roscommon) - Posts: 100 - 09/04/2024 18:54:10
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Replying To dave1988: "Any truth in Ben O'Carroll Keith Doyle and Cathal Heneghan all out of mayo game? ," A lot unfortunately
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Replying To dave1988: "Any truth in Ben O'Carroll Keith Doyle and Cathal Heneghan all out of mayo game? ," All big injury doubts for the Mayo game and our lack of strength in depth with injuries at the moment was seen once we ran the bench in recent challenges.
@letsgetgoing yes Mathew Thompson will need extra attention and Colm Costello,Ronan Colleran,Conor Heneghan are good forwards also. We are probably facing our biggest battle in midfield up against All Ireland winning partnership in Shay McGlinchey, Jack Lonergan as you say we can't afford another slow start.
The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3758 - 09/04/2024 19:38:23
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Replying To The_analyser: "All big injury doubts for the Mayo game and our lack of strength in depth with injuries at the moment was seen once we ran the bench in recent challenges.
@letsgetgoing yes Mathew Thompson will need extra attention and Colm Costello,Ronan Colleran,Conor Heneghan are good forwards also. We are probably facing our biggest battle in midfield up against All Ireland winning partnership in Shay McGlinchey, Jack Lonergan as you say we can't afford another slow start." We have literally have no strength and depth this year. If we are missing them three lads I unfortunately don't give us any chance against mayo..
dave1988 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1057 - 10/04/2024 08:39:01
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That is worrying. What is O'Carrolls injury?
Looking at the AI series permutations there seems to be a huge incentive to win Connacht...avoid a group with Dublin and Kerry. Derry by no means guaranteed to win Ulster but will be favourites. And would I be right in saying also avoiding Connacht teams you would have played along the way? You give yourself a much better chance of topping a group and avoiding a preliminary round. We'll say Derry win Ulster, the toughest group you could potentially get as Connacht champions would be Armagh, Tyrone, Cavan/Cork. Absolutely not easy but if you manage to get through Connacht (whether ourselves, Mayo or Galway) you have the capability of beating any of them on your day.
Best of luck to the u20s this evening.
MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 787 - 10/04/2024 09:05:14
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Replying To MachaireConnacht: "That is worrying. What is O'Carrolls injury?
Looking at the AI series permutations there seems to be a huge incentive to win Connacht...avoid a group with Dublin and Kerry. Derry by no means guaranteed to win Ulster but will be favourites. And would I be right in saying also avoiding Connacht teams you would have played along the way? You give yourself a much better chance of topping a group and avoiding a preliminary round. We'll say Derry win Ulster, the toughest group you could potentially get as Connacht champions would be Armagh, Tyrone, Cavan/Cork. Absolutely not easy but if you manage to get through Connacht (whether ourselves, Mayo or Galway) you have the capability of beating any of them on your day.
Best of luck to the u20s this evening." Joyce and McStay have made no secret that their aim is to win Connacht as you have pointed out it's the best way to go into All-Ireland group stage. Second year into this new format and some pundits and journalists still don't realise this and while provincial championships aren't as important as they once were they are still important and Connacht and Ulster is simply harder to win.
Drax_the_destroyer (UK) - Posts: 96 - 10/04/2024 14:13:14
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Replying To Drax_the_destroyer: "Joyce and McStay have made no secret that their aim is to win Connacht as you have pointed out it's the best way to go into All-Ireland group stage. Second year into this new format and some pundits and journalists still don't realise this and while provincial championships aren't as important as they once were they are still important and Connacht and Ulster is simply harder to win." It makes sense that Mayo and Galway would be chomping at the bit for Connacht. Both teams would fancy their chances topping that hypothetical group I listed. And if Galway got some of their main lads back they are better equipped than Mayo I would argue at taking on some of those teams. A lacklustre or **** league campaign will be quickly forgotten for the team that wins Connacht.
MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 787 - 10/04/2024 15:10:07
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0-6 each the Hyde tonight in a U20 match played in the worst possible conditions I've seen this year for a match.
Three games three draws and each one of them we shown loads of guts, character to earn a point that we deserved in each game.
Injuries a concern with losing three starters Conor Harley, Rory Carthy, Tommy Morris to injury before the game and sadly for Ethan O'Reilly just back from injury could only last for 15 minutes when introduced.
All comes down to the match away leitrim now whom have come into good form with a win against Mayo and drew with Sligo tonight.
The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3758 - 10/04/2024 20:48:01
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3rd draw in a row against Galway for our under 20's tonight. Not sure what to make of the game to be honest as it ended 6 points each. The positives to be taken for me were:
* Never say die attitude from the players and the the work load they each put in.
* Limiting a Galway side who had scored 2-16 against both Sligo & Leitrim to just 6 points.
* The second half performance having gone in at half time one point down and facing a gale.
* The early use of substitutes which again made a difference.
However we picked up very little of the breaking ball around the mid-field area which put us under pressure. All to play for next week against Leitrim (away).
Galway played 4 --- 5 points.
Roscommon played 3 --- 3 points.
Mayo played 3 --- 3 points.
Leitrim played 3 --- 3 points.
Sligo played 3 ---- 2 points.
Not sure what happens if three teams finish with 5 points.
letsgetgoing (Roscommon) - Posts: 510 - 10/04/2024 20:53:35
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A dogged Roscommon U20 team got their third draw of the campaign against Galway this evening. All now turns on next week's matches. Roscommon away to Leitrim. Roscommon have come from behind in all their matches. Great character in this team but Leitrim away will be tough.
endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2168 - 10/04/2024 21:01:15
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Replying To letsgetgoing: "3rd draw in a row against Galway for our under 20's tonight. Not sure what to make of the game to be honest as it ended 6 points each. The positives to be taken for me were:
* Never say die attitude from the players and the the work load they each put in.
* Limiting a Galway side who had scored 2-16 against both Sligo & Leitrim to just 6 points.
* The second half performance having gone in at half time one point down and facing a gale.
* The early use of substitutes which again made a difference.
However we picked up very little of the breaking ball around the mid-field area which put us under pressure. All to play for next week against Leitrim (away).
Galway played 4 --- 5 points.
Roscommon played 3 --- 3 points.
Mayo played 3 --- 3 points.
Leitrim played 3 --- 3 points.
Sligo played 3 ---- 2 points.
Not sure what happens if three teams finish with 5 points." If you draw the next day which is very possible as you have already drawn 3 you could actually be eliminated.... without losing a game. Kinda mad isn't it
eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1658 - 10/04/2024 21:07:46
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Replying To letsgetgoing: "3rd draw in a row against Galway for our under 20's tonight. Not sure what to make of the game to be honest as it ended 6 points each. The positives to be taken for me were:
* Never say die attitude from the players and the the work load they each put in.
* Limiting a Galway side who had scored 2-16 against both Sligo & Leitrim to just 6 points.
* The second half performance having gone in at half time one point down and facing a gale.
* The early use of substitutes which again made a difference.
However we picked up very little of the breaking ball around the mid-field area which put us under pressure. All to play for next week against Leitrim (away).
Galway played 4 --- 5 points.
Roscommon played 3 --- 3 points.
Mayo played 3 --- 3 points.
Leitrim played 3 --- 3 points.
Sligo played 3 ---- 2 points.
Not sure what happens if three teams finish with 5 points." If Sligo beat mayo and Leitrim v Roscommon ends in a draw. Sligo and Roscommon will meet in semi final as Roscommon have better average scoring difference than Leitrim. I'm sure mayo will fancy themselves at home to Sligo so is wide open.
SuperSligo (Sligo) - Posts: 51 - 10/04/2024 21:24:36
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Replying To letsgetgoing: "3rd draw in a row against Galway for our under 20's tonight. Not sure what to make of the game to be honest as it ended 6 points each. The positives to be taken for me were:
* Never say die attitude from the players and the the work load they each put in.
* Limiting a Galway side who had scored 2-16 against both Sligo & Leitrim to just 6 points.
* The second half performance having gone in at half time one point down and facing a gale.
* The early use of substitutes which again made a difference.
However we picked up very little of the breaking ball around the mid-field area which put us under pressure. All to play for next week against Leitrim (away).
Galway played 4 --- 5 points.
Roscommon played 3 --- 3 points.
Mayo played 3 --- 3 points.
Leitrim played 3 --- 3 points.
Sligo played 3 ---- 2 points.
Not sure what happens if three teams finish with 5 points." If three teams finish with 5 points scoring difference decides it (assuming the 3 teams finish with different scoring differences).
Not sure what the rules are after that to decide it,
galwayman2 (Galway) - Posts: 1241 - 10/04/2024 21:55:10
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Replying To eoinog: "If you draw the next day which is very possible as you have already drawn 3 you could actually be eliminated.... without losing a game. Kinda mad isn't it" As Roscommon (under 20's) have a better scoring difference than Mayo, Leitrim and Sligo, I think that we will qualify if we draw against Leitrim. We will obviously be going for a win next week. Galway with 5 points and +9 are probably directly into the final.
letsgetgoing (Roscommon) - Posts: 510 - 11/04/2024 00:32:18
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Replying To eoinog: "If you draw the next day which is very possible as you have already drawn 3 you could actually be eliminated.... without losing a game. Kinda mad isn't it" A draw will be enough for Roscommon to progress to the knock out stage. Leitrim with their scoring difference and Sligo on two points need to win to reach the semi final.
Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3347 - 11/04/2024 01:14:50
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Just about dried out at last after that **** of an evening.
Great work by both sets of players to perform in such conditions.
Well done to our draw specialists who stuck at it no matter what went wrong and deservedly got another draw for their attitude alone.
In our own hands next Wednesday in Ballinamore (or will Carrick be available?)
Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1424 - 11/04/2024 11:30:04
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Reported in the local media today that Keith Doyle and Ben O'Carroll have resumed full training and will be available for selection against Mayo. With both looking to recover fully and get up to speed I don't expect either to start on April 21st but having both as option off the bench will be better than not having them at all.
I heard that Cathal Heneghan would be out for up to six weeks with a knee injury and that was confirmed today when It's stated he could return for the All-Ireland Series
Evan Flynn ruled out for the season with a shoulder injury. We have other injuries also from recent challenges and I'm hoping those that sat out those games and taken off early was precautionary.
The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3758 - 11/04/2024 12:08:44
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Replying To The_analyser: "Reported in the local media today that Keith Doyle and Ben O'Carroll have resumed full training and will be available for selection against Mayo. With both looking to recover fully and get up to speed I don't expect either to start on April 21st but having both as option off the bench will be better than not having them at all.
I heard that Cathal Heneghan would be out for up to six weeks with a knee injury and that was confirmed today when It's stated he could return for the All-Ireland Series
Evan Flynn ruled out for the season with a shoulder injury. We have other injuries also from recent challenges and I'm hoping those that sat out those games and taken off early was precautionary." Thanks for the update Analyser. (as always!)
letsgetgoing (Roscommon) - Posts: 510 - 11/04/2024 12:56:22
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Replying To The_analyser: "Reported in the local media today that Keith Doyle and Ben O'Carroll have resumed full training and will be available for selection against Mayo. With both looking to recover fully and get up to speed I don't expect either to start on April 21st but having both as option off the bench will be better than not having them at all.
I heard that Cathal Heneghan would be out for up to six weeks with a knee injury and that was confirmed today when It's stated he could return for the All-Ireland Series
Evan Flynn ruled out for the season with a shoulder injury. We have other injuries also from recent challenges and I'm hoping those that sat out those games and taken off early was precautionary." Just seen that on the Herald. Hard luck on young Flynn, hope he makes a full recovery. His loss doesn't help our squad depth. Good news on Doyle and O'Carroll though.
Great character again from the U20s. Hope they can get a result against Leitrim. Brilliant to see Connacht so competitive at that age group. It's a pity such a gap opens up at senior.
MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 787 - 11/04/2024 13:20:13
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U17 team and subs named for tonights opening Connacht championship game. No Sean McDonnell (Strokestown) one of the stand players in the championship last year due to injury.
Patrick Gaynor (Western Gaels)
Liam Finneran (Castlerea) Gordon Casey (Ballinameen) Martin Connaughton (St Ciarans)
Alan Conroy (St Croans) Keelan Kelly (Pearses) Colin Murray (St Ciarans)
Darragh Devaney (Kilmore) Declan Kennedy (Shannon Gaels)
Sam Hannon (Roscommon Gaels) Eoin Collins (St Croans) Cathal Enright (Elphin)
Dara Curran (Castlerea) Stephen Tighe (Strokestown) Dean Casey (Ballinameen)
Subs Cillian Hussey (Tulsk) Anthony Cox (St Faithleachs) Kyle Mahon (Clann na nGael) Conor Kennedy (St Croans)
Jeff Oates (St Michaels) Ciaran Mulry (Roscommon Gaels) Joe McKeon (Kimore) Michael Brooks (Pearses) Ross Glynn (Pearses)
Hopefully the poor weather doesn't ruin another championship match. Best of luck to the young Roscommon players
The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3758 - 12/04/2024 14:28:32
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