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I see you mentioned Armagh's 'fluke' goal but didn't think to mention Galway's goal against Donegal. Also left out the Sligo result. Bdonegal1991 (Donegal) - Posts: 88 - 09/08/2024 12:44:35 2564379 Link 0 |
A not fully fit Comer is still better than Culhane. With Comer in there he occupies at least 2 defenders, and management seemed all year to want a big lad in full forward. Tribes88 (Galway) - Posts: 10 - 09/08/2024 12:55:09 2564382 Link 0 |
100%. I don't think he trusted the bench. I also think the subs were pre planned and even when the Armagh subs came on plans were in place. I just think the Finnerty injury just upset things in lots of different ways.
smallfrank (Galway) - Posts: 433 - 09/08/2024 13:01:13 2564384 Link 0 |
A lot of that is true but don't ignore the fact that Monaghan hit the cross bar and if not for that we were gone. Same as the Sligo game we had lots of luck. I also accept we had very little of it in the final.
smallfrank (Galway) - Posts: 433 - 09/08/2024 13:03:01 2564385 Link 0 |
Blatant foul on Maher that led to Monaghan chance taken out in mid air so bad luck that free was not given. Galway dominated Monaghan last 20 so we have no way of knowing what would have happened if they scored that goal
jm25 (Galway) - Posts: 1260 - 09/08/2024 13:54:36 2564396 Link 3 |
The key point is if a team gets across the line multiple times against the very top teams, it evidences a very good team with character, who is consistently beat teams at the top table in 2024. I left out Sligo as they are a Division 3 team and also left out London as they are Division 4. Westmeath won the Tailtean Cup recently, got promoted to Division 2, ran our other group teams close, and generally are considered to be tricky opponents so included them. Sure you could(and you will pick anything that supports your anti Galway narrative) pick out in game moments like the Donegal goal or say the late free against Mayo might not have been given on another occasion but a reasonable observer could pick put other moments in the same games where Galway could have gotten different decisions, outcomes or frees given in our favour. The facts are that this team has consistently stood up to the occasion in the key moments, against big teams, and won. 3 Connaught championships and two all Ireland appearances in the past three years demonstrates that this team is not too far away. Trucker1 (Galway) - Posts: 392 - 09/08/2024 14:19:08 2564402 Link 1 |
There was plenty of time left in the Monaghan game for Galway, certainly weren't gone inf the goal went in. You could also say lady luck went Armagh's way in the group game to come back from 5 points down and Galway didn't get much luck with injuries to Walsh, Comer, Sean Kelly, Hernon, John Daly & Finnerty. Whichever you look at it Galway made the final and they certainly weren't lucky as you put it. TheBishop (Galway) - Posts: 285 - 09/08/2024 14:20:41 2564403 Link 1 |
I agree Sligo was very very hairy but think ultimately we were saved by a fit rampaging Damien Comer not necessarily luck. I don't really agree with you on Monaghan, I always felt in that game that we had a bit more in the tank than them and think we would have come back had that goal gone in. The final was a disaster from our perspective but fair play to Armagh, they took their chances and we didn't.
Trucker1 (Galway) - Posts: 392 - 09/08/2024 14:24:15 2564404 Link 1 |
With Shane not in the kilmacud squad for this evening, I wonder is he getting an injury treated or taking a well earned rest after the inter County season, like a lad who needs a rest anyway Knocknadrough (Galway) - Posts: 30 - 09/08/2024 18:59:40 2564452 Link 0 |
"Anti-Galway narrative"?? Thats a strange one, where have I been anti-Galway? Anyway, as you say you could pick out momemts in games but just pointing out originally you conveniently picked out the moments that suited your argument and left others out but whatever suits I suppose. Bdonegal1991 (Donegal) - Posts: 88 - 09/08/2024 19:41:45 2564456 Link 0 |
Where have you been anti Galway :) have a read of many of your previous inputs suddenly turning up on this forum. I'm not the first to point this out to you either. And in any event you are wrong again, the Sligo and Donegal matches support my argument, winning out in tight games in critical moments. Good teams find a way to win. Calling this fine team who have beaten multiple top teams 'average' or 'lucky' just doesn't match the facts or the results. If Dublin or Kerry won it, people would be saying they were good teams and great Champions but when it's Armagh (or within a kick of a ball Galway) they are average or lucky and it's a bad year etc. ill leave it at that. Trucker1 (Galway) - Posts: 392 - 10/08/2024 00:13:42 2564493 Link 2 |
I haven't been anti Galway in the slightest. I have said there one of the few teams who can perform above the average. There not the best team in the country, there probably is no best team in the country at the minute, there are 8 teams,I would say, with very little between them. My opinion is out of those 8 teams Galway would be at the lower end in terms of an all round panel and they would have been in the bottom 2 or 3 in terms of who out of that 8 would have been expected to be in an All ireland. So would Armagh but thats what I'm saying there is very little between these, when the top couple underperform the others, with a bit of luck, can reach a final or win. Not sure what you're saying I'm wrong about? And what point you're trying to make about the Sligo and Donegal games is lost on me. The Galway fans were very quick to jump all over Armagh's win and say they were lucky. Anyway the only thing I have been 'Anti' is the narrative that Galway were somehow strong favourites and the opinion of some Galway fans that Armagh could only beat you because of a collapse and massive luck. I haven't been Anti the Galway football team. Bdonegal1991 (Donegal) - Posts: 88 - 10/08/2024 22:40:53 2564559 Link 1 |
They missed 7or8 placed ball opportunities, came the wrong side of 3 hawkeyes, and lost by 1 point. No collapse, no bad luck. There probably aren't 5or6 panels in the country better than Galway, so your opinion on that is debatable.
Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3838 - 11/08/2024 18:10:12 2564624 Link 0 |
Yes, Armagh got the best of a 50:50 contest, partly due to their stronger panel. Were agreed. Bdonegal1991 (Donegal) - Posts: 88 - 11/08/2024 21:30:50 2564667 Link 0 |
Selected for Ireland u18 rugby team so could be lost to Galway same with Farthing who with Connacht and was super for minors when they won all Ireland
jm25 (Galway) - Posts: 1260 - 12/08/2024 12:26:55 2564744 Link 0 |
That's two great talents heading for rugby by the looks of things, it's a pity but good luck to them if that's what they want. However, I must say, the provincial setup in this country is one of the most biased farces in sport and practically nobody is calling it out to the IRFU or elsewhere. Leinster now have 10, yes 10 centrally contracted players for the coming season. The rest of us muckers in Connacht, Munster and Ulster have 1 each. I know about the other player funding routes, so let nobody give us that canard - Connacht, Munster and Ulster are being shafted, and our provincial competition is dead. I'm a Connacht fan but have had enough of the IRFU D4 blinkers nonsense. It's out and out bias and favouritism and some great Gaelic football talent is going into our Connacht setup being told about wonderful rugby career prospects, well there's only one province funded to offer those, lads, and it ain't in the west. Or the south. Or the north either! togoutlads (Galway) - Posts: 961 - 12/08/2024 16:14:08 2564794 Link 0 |
Now don't accuse me of being from Leinster that im going to disagree with you as I was from Armagh a couple of weeks ago according to you ( apology awaited) .but look at the players with central contracts and it's hard to argue with it and with the change they are bringing in next year benefit the national team I don't know. The strength of Leinster schools does benefit the other provinces too we have Prendergast Oliver off top of my head. I think Munster and particularly ulster who are a bit of a shambles should be doing more Both also have got to bring in plenty of big money foreigners over last 10 15 yrs prob more then Leinster Anyway this prob belongs on another thread jm25 (Galway) - Posts: 1260 - 12/08/2024 18:22:26 2564829 Link 0 |
Any word are management stayin on?need to say if they are or not Dunmore10 (Galway) - Posts: 140 - 13/08/2024 10:56:21 2564916 Link 0 |
I've heard the views of a lot of people on this AI - the over whelming majority of which is that Galway lost it, kicked it away by not converting 7/8 kickable points that went wide or dropped into the keepers hands. Everyone to their own opinion. Personally I can't get away from that statistic. Armaghs supposedly stronger panel didn't cause the Galway forwards to kick the ball wide from frees / marks and it definitely didn't stop Joyce from instructing someone else other than Walsh to take the frees. A very difficult loss for Galway to take, difficult to recover from especially if management are blamed for the defeat. Cbar (Mayo) - Posts: 332 - 13/08/2024 12:35:18 2564938 Link 1 |
They need to say it to you, is it? It's only been two weeks since we lost the All-Ireland final. You'll know in good time. If I was to guess, I'd say Joyce will want to stay on. Whether he can give the commitment for another year is another matter. Likewise for the backroom team. It must be very difficult to balance it with other commitments. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2155 - 13/08/2024 13:10:14 2564945 Link 1 |