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Replying To brisbane:  "The physio set up has been more or less the same since John O Mahonys time? Padraics younger sister is the physio im not sure she was even born back in 98. Mahony had the Irish soccer legend mick Byrne running things

Galway have by far the most injuries every year, no other team can compare. joyce said he could not take Walsh off because all the subs were used. He was limping after the last 45 maybe 10mins left in the game"
Yes Brisbane his younger sister is part of the physio team but this has been led by the same Chartered physio since 1999.

You are correct Mick Byrne was involved in 98 but was more a glorified Sports Therapist who looked after Dublin based players. He did not lead the physio team but because of his personality became more involved with the team as the year progressed .

Again don't worry about a few facts getting in the way guys

SidelineKick (Galway) - Posts: 6 - 01/02/2024 17:09:24    2523720

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Good man SidelineKick - finally someone who knows what they're on about.

ahsure. (Galway) - Posts: 1568 - 01/02/2024 18:03:25    2523731

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Replying To tommy k:  "Very sad if its true about Shane. Is there any point in going to They Hyde at all this weekend - we might as well hand Roscommon the 2 points now."
not sure if you're being facetious but that's an embarrassing comment if you actually think that way

cavan.galway (Galway) - Posts: 182 - 01/02/2024 18:12:48    2523735

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Replying To SidelineKick:  "I'm sorry but the amount of ill informed comments and posts on this particular Galway Football thread is staggering and is very frustrating to say the least.

Firstly Shane Walsh has not had a season ending injury that has required surgery. People commenting to this effect and also those adding on with their concerns need to get a reality check.

Secondly for Sportsfanatic90 the S&C team has changed completely since Kevin Walshs time so let's get that right. Your perspective that Galway were the worst conditioned team in Div 1 based on your view from an armchair or from your fathers lap is laughable. If you are that well informed in physical conditioning you should head over to Loughgeorge this evening and offer PJ and Co your services.

The truth is and I have spoken with a source within the Senior camp is that this Galway team are over training and have been since October 2023. They have regularly had double sessions on weekends Sat & Sun (All of Dec weekends were doubles) and when you add in Sigerson training/games, travel and overall physical & mental fatigue you get the injury list we currently have.

The physio set up has been more or less the same since John O Mahonys time but I don't think that's to blame either. Players are dropping like flies with mostly soft tissue injuries (3-4 week rehab injuries) because they are over worked and not getting enough recovery. I would expect with the run of NFL games now the training load will drop and lads will get some more time to recover so I'd expect players to start to return as league progresses. The performance last Sunday was no surprise for me and others around me in the know and Im not saying that to BS anyone. We may see an uptick in performance next Sunday but if so I fear it will only be temporary."
Thanks for the post. Is your suggestion that the players are overworked with good reason to stand to them later in the year or that you (and others) personally believe they've been overworked in general and the S&C programme needs to change?

PressureKick (UK) - Posts: 208 - 01/02/2024 18:19:11    2523736

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Replying To SidelineKick:  "Yes Brisbane his younger sister is part of the physio team but this has been led by the same Chartered physio since 1999.

You are correct Mick Byrne was involved in 98 but was more a glorified Sports Therapist who looked after Dublin based players. He did not lead the physio team but because of his personality became more involved with the team as the year progressed .

Again don't worry about a few facts getting in the way guys"
Facts ? you are the new account spinning things. The physio working alongside Joyces sister is not in place since 99 Aofaine left and came back on board for the 2015 season. Both do not work for the same company

brisbane (Galway) - Posts: 674 - 01/02/2024 18:47:34    2523740

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Replying To tommy k:  "Very sad if its true about Shane. Is there any point in going to They Hyde at all this weekend - we might as well hand Roscommon the 2 points now."
It seems that rumours of Shane's demise are greatly exaggerated.

It's quite possible PJ is adopting a team performance peaking strategy for the business-end of the season. After all, he and the management team are in last chance saloon/departures lounge/dead man walking territory. No benefit to him if he works to retain Div. 1 status and then limps out of champo in July. So, this might explain the anaemic performances to date.

If this is the case, then maybe, supporters should be advised as to when to start attending games. This would give them a chance to squirrel away savings for the multiple trips to Dublin in July.

Really (Galway) - Posts: 585 - 01/02/2024 18:57:42    2523742

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Replying To NoughtiesFootball:  "Apart from Kerry and Dublin, what county has better forwards than Galway?
Granted Walsh is inconsistent, Comer is injury prone and Rob Finnerty hasn't rediscovered his form of 2022.
But there are other forwards in Galway who would walk onto most county teams. Des Conneelly, Eoin Finnerty, Brian Mannion, Barry McHugh a good free taker and good club player, Dylan Canney, Nathan Grainger, Tomo Culhane and that's only picking lads from the top 8 senior clubs.

Most counties only have one top forward - Tyrone with McCurry, McGuigan with Derry, McBrearty and maybe Gallen with Donegal, McManus with Monaghan, Tommy Conroy with Mayo.

Galway just need to keep lads fit and get more out of their attacking abilities."
Just looking at the list of forwards Thars posted none of them woukd make the Roscommon forward line not a hope I've being saying it for years it's a pure myth that Galway have a good forward line yes they have 2 good forwards when fit Walsh and comer Thars it 10 points last Sunday cat until I see a galway forward line scoring between the 6 of them 1-10 and then hoping midfielder snd wing backs chip in with 3-4 points i think unless we play forwards in forwards unfortunately we will get same results as last Sunday snd if Galway go out with same team v Ross it be another hammering,,

Kickitout (Galway) - Posts: 831 - 01/02/2024 19:08:20    2523744

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So we're all ill informed and they are just overtrained.
Is Johnny McGrath not overtrained, he was good on Sunday, Paul Conroy when he came on. That type of performance has happened before, Mayo in Tuam 2020 and Kerry away. Was that down to over training. The hockeying in the FBD final was explained away as keeping the main players and focusing on the league. Conor Gleeson kicking the ball down the middle 9 times and we win it once, is that down to overtraining. Everybody wants to see the team doing well, if we highlight things we don't like after an 8 point defeat to our biggest rivals and who knocked us out of the championship last summer and beat us in a final in Croke Park last year, that doesn't make us ill informed.

smallfrank (Galway) - Posts: 361 - 01/02/2024 20:14:13    2523748

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Conroy and O'Curraoin could be in from start the next day, team probably unchanged otherwise. Might be a couple newcomers onto subs bench who didn't make match day squad vs Mayo.

gaillimhboy (Galway) - Posts: 337 - 01/02/2024 20:19:37    2523750

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Replying To tommy k:  "Very sad if its true about Shane. Is there any point in going to They Hyde at all this weekend - we might as well hand Roscommon the 2 points now."
What your saying is.....if Shane was playing there would be a point in going to the Hyde and we wouldn't be handing the 2 points to Roscommon!
So basically win with Shane playing or lose with Shane not playing!

katser (Galway) - Posts: 2192 - 01/02/2024 21:00:29    2523756

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My team vs Roscommon (not sure what the injury situation is)
Flaherty
McGrath Mulkerrins Molloy
McHugh Daly Sweeney
Maher McLaughlin
O Conghaile Conroy Tierney
Finnerty Comer Curraoin
I would include Walsh but I keep hearing of a season ending injury.

Brandyh (Galway) - Posts: 23 - 01/02/2024 21:16:00    2523758

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Replying To smallfrank:  "So we're all ill informed and they are just overtrained.
Is Johnny McGrath not overtrained, he was good on Sunday, Paul Conroy when he came on. That type of performance has happened before, Mayo in Tuam 2020 and Kerry away. Was that down to over training. The hockeying in the FBD final was explained away as keeping the main players and focusing on the league. Conor Gleeson kicking the ball down the middle 9 times and we win it once, is that down to overtraining. Everybody wants to see the team doing well, if we highlight things we don't like after an 8 point defeat to our biggest rivals and who knocked us out of the championship last summer and beat us in a final in Croke Park last year, that doesn't make us ill informed."
My suggestion about being ill informed was in relation to the original poster and others suggesting Shane Walsh was going to be a long term injury absentee which is in correct and also regarding the make up of the S&C and Physio personnel.

I didn't actually draw any link between overtraining and player performance v Mayo, my opinion was that overtraining was leading to the laundry list of injuries. If you actually took the time to read the thread and absorbed the content you may have better understood and then been better informed when posting a response. So I'll informed...yes I guess you are.

I do agree that there were some reasonable performances the last day and of course some errors but these would and will happen regardless of fitness level or training load or whether we were winning or losing. You cannot draw a direct link between those selective areas and what's happening on and off the training pitch over the last 4 months. That's a very narrow view and one of someone who I fear wouldn't know if a football was pumped or stuffed.

SidelineKick (Galway) - Posts: 6 - 01/02/2024 22:07:28    2523763

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Looked as if Shane tweaked something kicking the last free (or was it a 45) that he pointed near the end of the game.

galwayman2 (Galway) - Posts: 1230 - 01/02/2024 22:21:24    2523767

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Replying To Brandyh:  "My team vs Roscommon (not sure what the injury situation is)
Flaherty
McGrath Mulkerrins Molloy
McHugh Daly Sweeney
Maher McLaughlin
O Conghaile Conroy Tierney
Finnerty Comer Curraoin
I would include Walsh but I keep hearing of a season ending injury."
You didn't include Shane Walsh in your team due to an unconfirmed season ending injury yet you included James McLoughlin who it has been confirmed will be away until May at least.

SidelineKick (Galway) - Posts: 6 - 01/02/2024 22:22:14    2523768

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Replying To SidelineKick:  "My suggestion about being ill informed was in relation to the original poster and others suggesting Shane Walsh was going to be a long term injury absentee which is in correct and also regarding the make up of the S&C and Physio personnel.

I didn't actually draw any link between overtraining and player performance v Mayo, my opinion was that overtraining was leading to the laundry list of injuries. If you actually took the time to read the thread and absorbed the content you may have better understood and then been better informed when posting a response. So I'll informed...yes I guess you are.

I do agree that there were some reasonable performances the last day and of course some errors but these would and will happen regardless of fitness level or training load or whether we were winning or losing. You cannot draw a direct link between those selective areas and what's happening on and off the training pitch over the last 4 months. That's a very narrow view and one of someone who I fear wouldn't know if a football was pumped or stuffed."
I referenced other games where we have taken beatings. I was at those games and I was present Sunday when we were beaten by 8 points and should have been beaten by more. What I know about football and who you've spoken too and claim to know about fitness and conditioning doesn't change any of that.
If the footballs were indeed stuffed, I don't think our % of our own kick outs won would be any worse. But looking at how many kick outs we retain is probably too selective.

smallfrank (Galway) - Posts: 361 - 01/02/2024 22:37:55    2523771

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Replying To katser:  "What your saying is.....if Shane was playing there would be a point in going to the Hyde and we wouldn't be handing the 2 points to Roscommon!
So basically win with Shane playing or lose with Shane not playing!"
True katser!

tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3314 - 01/02/2024 22:50:11    2523773

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Replying To Brandyh:  "My team vs Roscommon (not sure what the injury situation is)
Flaherty
McGrath Mulkerrins Molloy
McHugh Daly Sweeney
Maher McLaughlin
O Conghaile Conroy Tierney
Finnerty Comer Curraoin
I would include Walsh but I keep hearing of a season ending injury."
But your not heating Mc Loughlin is not part of the squad?

Galwaymaster9 (Galway) - Posts: 390 - 01/02/2024 22:58:29    2523776

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Shane Walsh quad gone be out for rest of league, Comer out Sunday too

Flemenstar200 (Galway) - Posts: 33 - 02/02/2024 08:55:42    2523789

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Replying To galwayman2:  "Looked as if Shane tweaked something kicking the last free (or was it a 45) that he pointed near the end of the game."
Yes I saw that on tv - there did seem to be something wrong with his calf or ankle.

tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3314 - 02/02/2024 09:24:05    2523791

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Replying To cavan.galway:  "Disagree that Des Conneelly, Eoin Finnerty, Brian Mannion, Barry McHugh,Dylan Canney, Nathan Grainger, Tomo Culhane would walk onto most county teams. Especially not division one or two counties.

mayo,Derry,donegal,Tyrone all have better forwards in my opinion. Not sure how you forgot Ryan O Donoghue plays for Mayo who would walk onto our team along with two Canavan brothers from Tyrone, mccarron from monaghan, ethan doherty from derry i could go on... walsh and comer only two guranteed starters when fit in our forward line."
What division 2 counties would most of those lads not get on?
Mayo have Conroy and O'Donoghue who are decent. But not of the quality of Walsh or Comer on their day. Rob Finnerty I would have on the same level of Conroy and O'Donoghue.

Derry have one consistent scoring forward - Shane McGuigan. Ethan Doherty is a very good half forward but not exactly a proper assassin top quality scorer.
Darragh Canavan is coming good for Tyrone, granted - so him and McCurry. McCurry was their most consistent forward in 2021 when they won Sam though. Ruari is unproven although showing signs.

Jack McCarron never plays well in championship matches against top counties. A very good league forward and excellent against the likes of Carlow or Wexford, but not Dublin or Galway in the championship.

Those lads from Galway I have named would get much more game time in Roscommon than they do in Galway, if not be regular starters - to reply to another poster who compared them to Roscommon's forward line.

NoughtiesFootball (USA) - Posts: 4 - 02/02/2024 11:43:00    2523823

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