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It sounds like you want a "Premiere League" of 8-10 Senior teams. Is this correct?
Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2113 - 12/12/2021 21:28:58 2392619 Link 0 |
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12 senior clubs in Galway: 6 A-level; 6-B-level, all with a chance of winning the county is the way to go. But, it won't happen. Trust me. I know. foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1903 - 13/12/2021 08:44:47 2392629 Link 1 |
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It sounds like he's asking for 16, which I think would be about right.
WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2033 - 13/12/2021 09:18:54 2392637 Link 2 |
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Tooreen are an excellent team and have great battles with the Galway intermediate champions. Tooreen's success in recent years is down to their development and quality of players/skill, not just because they face weaker competition in the Galway intermediate champions. The three teams they beat in the Connacht finals were; a very strong intermediate winning team in Ballindereen (Ballindereen played the Connacht final the day after the Galway intermediate final, I believe), Kinvara (who fluked their way to winning intermediate), and Moycullen, (worthy intermediate champions in 2021.) Although the intermediate champions are generally a strong team who should do well in senior, e.g Cappy, Ahascragh, Oranmore, I think the last few years has been a bit of a joke and I really look forward to the 16,16,16 approach, which will allow for 3 excellent, competitive championships. There are too many 'senior' clubs banking on one win per year to keep them 'senior'. These players deserve more and at the end of their careers would surely rather win an intermediate title than say they won endless relegation battles. The bottom line is that the 16,16,16 approach in Galway is long overdue and when it arrives, we will have a cracking club championship campaign every year! GalwaysFinest (Galway) - Posts: 190 - 13/12/2021 10:12:55 2392645 Link 0 |
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Interesting. Would they interplay each other or would "A" stay strictly playing "A"? Would top team in "B" play top team in "A"?
Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2113 - 13/12/2021 14:29:16 2392682 Link 0 |
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Interesting. Would they interplay each other or would "A" stay strictly playing "A"? Would top team in "B" play top team in "A"?
Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2113 - 13/12/2021 14:29:20 2392683 Link 0 |
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I'm for anything that raises the standard and keeps us competitive on the National Stage. Clubs from Kilkenny, Tipp, Waterford, etc are not resting on their laurels and are constantly improving and sending out great teams.
Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2113 - 13/12/2021 14:35:14 2392687 Link 0 |
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Ah, this 'fluked' thing again. Let's look at the facts, shall we. In 2019 QF Kinvara faced a Meelick/Eyrecourt team who had won all 6 group games they played, and beat them. In 2019 SF Kinvara played and walloped a Moycullen team who went on to contest the final in 2020 and achieved promotion in 2021. In 2019 Final Kinvara played and edged out a Kilconieron team who didn't do enough on the day to get over the line (a scenario they emphatically rectified a year later, to their credit) but they absolutely were not robbed in that final. What part of a winning run like that was a fluke? Moycullen snatched victory in the 2021 Intermediate final in a similar way to Kinvara in 2019, why was Moycullen's win not a 'fluke'? Are we to take it that any win secured by an injury time goal comes into that category now? BTW AFAIK it was Ahascragh/Fohenagh who played the next day not Ballinderreen. By the way, instead of arrogantly assuming what players 'deserve' and 'would rather' maybe you should try asking them for their opinion. Clearly not something you've bothered with. Stool Pigeon (Galway) - Posts: 828 - 13/12/2021 14:52:57 2392696 Link 0 |
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Each team has 5 games to play. The top 2 at A-level go into semi-finals. Teams 3 and 5 at A-level plus 1 and 2 at B-level go into quarter-finals. I'm not having a cut at Galway when I say 12 senior clubs is enough. I could say the same about almost every other county. Yes, I follow Limerick hurling, but any poster from Limerick on here can tell you that when it comes to senior club hurling in the county that 12 exist on paper, but only 4 on the field (outside of NAP, Kilmallock, The Well and Doon, you won't find a team to win it in Limerick). It's the same in almost every other county. Stop kidding ourselves that we've even 12 senior level clubs in any county. foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1903 - 13/12/2021 16:15:36 2392714 Link 0 |
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Regarding the 16 team championship I can't see it happening too many vested interests while it would be brilliant for galway hurling and result in much stronger club representation in the junior and intermediate all Ireland competitions
minor77 (Galway) - Posts: 223 - 13/12/2021 18:46:23 2392735 Link 0 |
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They've no choice. It's directive from Croke Park. Such a Galway thing to be the only 1 out of the 32 counties not able to sort in time. It's not like we've a ridiculous huge number of clubs in Galway either. Cork have more clubs than the entire province of Connacht! With a further 7 or so counties with more clubs as well. Truth be none there is some Senior B clubs that had we proper promotion/relegation they'd be Junior A in a properly run system. Clubs, county board, Galway whatever need to grow up and realise that not everyone has to be a senior club. 16 is more than enough clubs for us. The good teams will still be the top teams obviously but their won't be some huge chasm between the teams at the lower end and higher. Look in Kilkenny that Tullaroan could come up from their second tier and get to semi finals and draw with Ballyhale, and that's most years that teams can move up the tiers and get rewards for winning tough and stronger intermediate/junior championships and if they're not performing they get relegated accordingly. Compare that with the absolute tonking Thomas's gave our second tier winners...who does this do good for?
ML89 (Galway) - Posts: 39 - 13/12/2021 21:58:02 2392759 Link 2 |
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I agree with everything you have said but mark my words wait until they try to implement the croke park directive galway gaa will find a way of avoiding the relegation of several senior clubs
minor77 (Galway) - Posts: 223 - 14/12/2021 12:51:51 2392805 Link 1 |
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its too simplistic perhaps for us to say, but yes, it has to go to 16/16/16 for the betterment & integrity of Galway championships. Hopefully Mr Bellew can sort should things go his way this evening.
CillTormoir (Galway) - Posts: 485 - 14/12/2021 14:59:48 2392819 Link 0 |
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Big decisions for clubs, battle for top two places on the Board really between football & hurling candidates. If football board lose both, they will be definitely on the hind t it. Interesting that many of the proposals put forward by one candidate are nearly the same as those put forward by the last defeated candidate for the post & that was wiped out by certain clubs & people who will probably be voting yes for it tonight. With Henry in the reins, hurling board will be looking to consolidate their positions of power, should be interesting election, skin & hair flying, false promises & more daggers than a Julius Caesar scene. moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 14/12/2021 18:19:24 2392837 Link 1 |
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As I have already stated there will no easy fix it is being reported this evening that galway gaa are appealing to croke park to have this deferred
minor77 (Galway) - Posts: 223 - 14/12/2021 18:31:22 2392839 Link 0 |
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let us know when the result comes in
SixtiesKid (Galway) - Posts: 304 - 14/12/2021 21:44:25 2392854 Link 0 |
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Bellew got elected. He gave quite a bit of detail in recent interviews on what has been done. This kind of information is very important. I hope this level of transparency continues as he takes the chairman role. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2033 - 15/12/2021 10:33:05 2392865 Link 1 |
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Would you have said the same thing after watching the 2020 club championships, one of the best club championships we had in years, most games highly competitive and only a margin of a point or two in most games? The 2021 championship has had far too many one sided games for sure but put it in context. That said, I think it is a good thing if the number of senior clubs is reduced. I would have said 18 or 20 would be the appropriate number but of course 16 is a handier number to work with. I dont think Croke Park should have a veto on how many senior clubs we have. Undoubtedly we will have to reduce the number of senior clubs in order to make the split season for club and county work but there should be some wriggle room on the rule that it needs to be 16. PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1902 - 15/12/2021 10:46:22 2392871 Link 0 |
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Another win for the hurlers in the big position at the top table. I read somewhere today there hasn't been a football chair since 1989, but given the incompetence of so many of the top football men that's hardly surprising. They're miles behind the hurlers in so many ways. Mary Judge secured the Vice Chair position with relative ease however which is some consolation on the football side. Taking the football / hurling biases out of it her and Bellew were probably the two best candidates for the relevant positions. Your point on Bellew's proposals are very valid. They are a carbon copy of what Cullhane brought a year ago. Kearney kept voters onside with very questionable tactics to maintain his position a year ago. That combined with hurling clubs voting no to Cullhane simply because he was from a football background probably cost him. Donaldtrump (Galway) - Posts: 252 - 15/12/2021 10:50:46 2392873 Link 1 |
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I would hope that the new committee would sort out a serious communications deficit in Galway GAA circles. there are so many areas that need attention it would require a full article to deal with it. We need a proper communications unit from the ground up giving details of all activities with full details of teams, results, a live twitter feed from championship games, etc.etc Galway needs to improve its fund raising act considerably and this wont happen without proper up to date modern communications SixtiesKid (Galway) - Posts: 304 - 15/12/2021 11:32:23 2392883 Link 0 |