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Not sure what's going on with the forums but looks like all previous topics are gone and only a national forum remains.
So this weekend's fixtures for discussion:

Section A
Fri: 8pm in Kinnegad: The Downs v Tyrrellspass
Sat 4pm in Cusack Park: Garrycastle v Kinnegad
Sat 4pm in Moate: Athlone v Lomans

Fri night is a dead rubber.
Interesting battle for 3rd and 4th place with 3 teams vying for 2 spots. Athlone need to beat Lomans to overtake them and Garrycastle need to win to be sure of a Q Final spot.

Section B (All Sun 4pm)
Cusack Park: Caulry v Moate
The Downs: Rosemount v Killucan
Lakepoint Park: Mullingar Shamrocks v Shandonagh

Only 2 points separating top from bottom and everyone is playing for something.

BigSur (Westmeath) - Posts: 1130 - 30/09/2021 10:26:49    2383660

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Replying To BigSur:  "Not sure what's going on with the forums but looks like all previous topics are gone and only a national forum remains.
So this weekend's fixtures for discussion:

Section A
Fri: 8pm in Kinnegad: The Downs v Tyrrellspass
Sat 4pm in Cusack Park: Garrycastle v Kinnegad
Sat 4pm in Moate: Athlone v Lomans

Fri night is a dead rubber.
Interesting battle for 3rd and 4th place with 3 teams vying for 2 spots. Athlone need to beat Lomans to overtake them and Garrycastle need to win to be sure of a Q Final spot.

Section B (All Sun 4pm)
Cusack Park: Caulry v Moate
The Downs: Rosemount v Killucan
Lakepoint Park: Mullingar Shamrocks v Shandonagh

Only 2 points separating top from bottom and everyone is playing for something."
Kinnegad seem to be going well this year, not sure who's over them but they're having a good year by all accounts. With them already being through though will they be at full strength this weekend? I suppose the opportunity to eliminate Garrycastle as a contender for the championship would be a motivation for them.
Garrycastle have a lot of experience imo and I think they will narrowly win this game to sneak into the quarters.

I never know what to think of Athlone, they seem to have some big performances and excellent players at times, and then flatter to deceive at other times. I think Lomans' experience and nous will see them through here.

The B group is very exciting this year and very hard to call. I believe there is a number of permutations about who can advance/be relegated here.
Caulry v Moate is sure to be a fiery local derby. I haven't seen Moate in action this year but having picked up 5 points is great going for them, I assume some of the good minor teams they've had are starting to bear fruit. Caulry are another strange team like Athlone imo, they have some very good players too but can be found wanting at times. Having said that I'll go for a narrow win for Caulry here.

Shamrocks have a lot of old experienced heads and I'll back them to overcome Shandonagh and qualify for the knockouts.
Killucan v Rosemount is another very difficult one to call, it's hard to choose a winner here also.

The Downs v Tyrrellspass - The Downs by 4
Garrycastle v Kinnegad - Garrycastle by 3
Athlone v Lomans - Lomans by 5

Caulry v Moate - Caulry by 3
Shamrocks v Shandonagh - Shamrocks by 6
Killucan v Rosemount - Draw

How qualification decided for teams who finish level on points; is it head to head or scoring difference? Likewise for relegation?

iarmhi_an_mhaith (Westmeath) - Posts: 268 - 30/09/2021 14:44:53    2383768

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The Downs v Tyrrellspass - The Downs
A nothing match but going on results and form it has to be The Downs
Garrycastle v Kinnegad - Garrycastle
Garrycastle have more to play for and should pull it out of the bag
Athlone v Lomans - Lomans
Lomans on paper are probably too good for Athlone. It will be a close one I think

Caulry v Moate - Draw
I think they are too very similar teams and won't give each other an inch. I know a draw will suit both and neither will be playing for a draw but I think if it's tight near the end, neither will want to lose so the draw will suit both
Shamrocks v Shandonagh - Shandonagh
I think there is a win in Shandonagh here. They won't fear Shamrocks and although not many are giving them a chance they will believe themselves
Killucan v Rosemount - Killucan
Rosemount just seem to be in no form at all and Killucan will take advantage of that

mintyfresh (Westmeath) - Posts: 211 - 01/10/2021 17:19:11    2384043

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In group 1 Lomans and Garrycastle should make the quarter finals.

Group 2 very difficult to call,
Moate has a great tradition in the senior ranks .
Caulry have over come all the odds so far in this campaign and I have a feeling that they are not finished yet.
Don't be surprised if Shandonagh beat Mullingar Shamrock's
Rosemont and Kilucan draw

Icehouse (Westmeath) - Posts: 79 - 01/10/2021 21:39:29    2384083

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Replying To Icehouse:  "In group 1 Lomans and Garrycastle should make the quarter finals.

Group 2 very difficult to call,
Moate has a great tradition in the senior ranks .
Caulry have over come all the odds so far in this campaign and I have a feeling that they are not finished yet.
Don't be surprised if Shandonagh beat Mullingar Shamrock's
Rosemont and Kilucan draw"
Shandonagh relegated. Shamrocks look to topping the group on score difference.Not sure exactly how it pans out

Baldy1 (Westmeath) - Posts: 84 - 03/10/2021 18:34:50    2384287

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Replying To Icehouse:  "In group 1 Lomans and Garrycastle should make the quarter finals.

Group 2 very difficult to call,
Moate has a great tradition in the senior ranks .
Caulry have over come all the odds so far in this campaign and I have a feeling that they are not finished yet.
Don't be surprised if Shandonagh beat Mullingar Shamrock's
Rosemont and Kilucan draw"
Shandonagh relegated. Shamrocks look to topping the group on score difference.Not sure exactly how it pans out… Think Shamrocks play Garrycsatle. Lomans play Caulry

Baldy1 (Westmeath) - Posts: 84 - 03/10/2021 18:37:57    2384288

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Moate must be kicking themselves. 3 points up v Caulry well into injury time and concede a penalty which was converted and game ended a draw. That meant themselves Caulry and Shamrocks all finished level on 6 points. When 2 teams are level it goes to head to head but when 3 are level its score difference which means Moate miss out.
Fair play to Shandonagh for putting up a fight v Shamrocks before being relegated.
Rosemount's win over Killucan made them safe.

BigSur (Westmeath) - Posts: 1130 - 03/10/2021 20:13:31    2384301

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Moate conceding a penalty deep in injury time was foolish. No need to foul, looked a clear cut penalty on tv. Big wins for Shamrocks and Rosemount. Killucan the enigma of the group, looked great on occasions but lucky not to end up in a relegation play off.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1489 - 03/10/2021 21:35:56    2384313

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Robbie Forde was brilliant all day however he kicked a 14 yard free in injury time to go 4 points up and started show boating to the Caurly crowd who were giving him a hard time all game and it came back to bite him when Caurly scored 1-1 to draw it up and put Moate out of the championship

Temple56 (Westmeath) - Posts: 386 - 03/10/2021 21:48:11    2384315

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Replying To Temple56:  "Robbie Forde was brilliant all day however he kicked a 14 yard free in injury time to go 4 points up and started show boating to the Caurly crowd who were giving him a hard time all game and it came back to bite him when Caurly scored 1-1 to draw it up and put Moate out of the championship"
I'm sure he feels a little silly now.

the21yardline (Westmeath) - Posts: 178 - 03/10/2021 22:04:06    2384318

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Shane Curran got a red and sounded livid with the ref. Anyone at the game ?

BigSur (Westmeath) - Posts: 1130 - 04/10/2021 09:09:50    2384325

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Harsh on Forde who has been arguably the outstanding player of the championship. He hardly responsible for the concession of a late penalty, he'll be one of the first names on the Westmeath panel this year along with Caulry's Senan Baker, both outstanding yesterday.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1489 - 04/10/2021 09:21:32    2384329

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Harsh on Forde who has been arguably the outstanding player of the championship. He hardly responsible for the concession of a late penalty, he'll be one of the first names on the Westmeath panel this year along with Caulry's Senan Baker, both outstanding yesterday."
Baker has two more years at u20 I think. No rush on him for 2022 - his time will come.

jamsie (Westmeath) - Posts: 443 - 04/10/2021 10:10:02    2384335

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Replying To BigSur:  "Shane Curran got a red and sounded livid with the ref. Anyone at the game ?"
I was at it alright - very entertaining, its great to be back at club matches. Dont know why this game wasnt in Athlone! Place would have been packed..

Didnt see what happened with Curran but his behavior towards the ref when shown the red card was not acceptable. He was in his face for a number of seconds venting.

Caulry got off to a great start and were 7/8 points up after scoring a goal on the 20 minute mark. But then Moate kicked into action. Up till then, Caulry had done a great job on Forde but that all changed. Moate outscored Caulry from the 20th minute to deep into injury time by 11 points, such were their dominance. They played really well and certainly looked like a team that would be a match for anyone left in the Championship. They will be gutted to go out in the manner they did, but will also learn allot from the experience of this year. As for Forde, I think some of the comments here are over the top. He was getting lots of it all day, from players and supporters. Not sure his actions after the 14 yards free deserve the attention received but I guess its whatever way you see it. One things for sure, during the second half yesterday he put in some display.
I have a slight feeling that yesterday maybe Caulry's County Final. They have some lovely players. Baker looks like a player for the future.

Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 04/10/2021 12:06:29    2384348

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Lomans to beat Caulry this weekend but not by much

Garrycastle will beat Shamrocks

mintyfresh (Westmeath) - Posts: 211 - 12/10/2021 14:46:24    2385379

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2 interesting quarter finals which we hadn't really expected. Lomans should win comfortably enough. Maguire might minimise Heslin's influence but they have 5 other decent forwards. Lomans defence only middling so will be interesting how they deal with Caulry's lively young forwards.
Can't decide on Sunday's game. One minute I think Garrycastle will be easy winners but then I think Shams could possibly shade it.

BigSur (Westmeath) - Posts: 1130 - 13/10/2021 15:09:57    2385539

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Replying To BigSur:  "2 interesting quarter finals which we hadn't really expected. Lomans should win comfortably enough. Maguire might minimise Heslin's influence but they have 5 other decent forwards. Lomans defence only middling so will be interesting how they deal with Caulry's lively young forwards.
Can't decide on Sunday's game. One minute I think Garrycastle will be easy winners but then I think Shams could possibly shade it."
Gutted for Caulry they deserved that Win today so unlucky . heslin very disrespectful at the end Goading the Caulry Supporters kevin Maguire kept heslin quite all day long suppose that's why he was annoyed

Bettyboo22 (Westmeath) - Posts: 108 - 16/10/2021 18:44:35    2385853

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Didnt see the game but why do you consider them unlucky. Heslin doesn't help himself but generally gets dogs abuse from club players and supporters, the same people who lord him when playing with county. Lomans v Kinnegad will be interesting. If weather continues to be wet I'm leaning towards Shamrocks tomorrow.

BigSur (Westmeath) - Posts: 1130 - 16/10/2021 19:14:20    2385859

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Replying To Bettyboo22:  "Gutted for Caulry they deserved that Win today so unlucky . heslin very disrespectful at the end Goading the Caulry Supporters kevin Maguire kept heslin quite all day long suppose that's why he was annoyed"
not the first time that gentleman goaded opposition players/supporters.

jfd (Westmeath) - Posts: 240 - 16/10/2021 19:26:01    2385861

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Replying To Bettyboo22:  "Gutted for Caulry they deserved that Win today so unlucky . heslin very disrespectful at the end Goading the Caulry Supporters kevin Maguire kept heslin quite all day long suppose that's why he was annoyed"
Infairness the Caulry supporters were shouting and whistling at him trying to put him off for every free he took during the game. Hes only human.

Leftpeg1 (Westmeath) - Posts: 88 - 16/10/2021 19:44:52    2385864

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