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Replying To wexico15:  "I'd have no pity for Gleeson, 18 points up no need to getting involved in that carry on if I was a Waterford supporter I'd be tearing my hair out, as Roy Keane said if your giving the referee a decision to make you can't really complain, Jacko's red was equally as silly and avoidable I will add."
I do agree with that but looking at the incident again on tv, there really isn't anything in it. Gleeson handle of his hurl does connect with Donoghue and he goes down but look at Donoghue when the ref is taking Gleeson name to send him off, he looks embarrassed and is pleading with the ref to not send him off. IMO you shouldn't miss a league final for that, under the rules the ref is right to send him off as you say wexico15 he gave the ref a decision to make. I'd still hope Gleeson could play the final even if it meant Waterford had to go down the appeals route.

logger (Wexford) - Posts: 305 - 28/03/2022 14:16:14    2407770

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Donohue is a good man for getting lads sent off he did the dame to Conor Mac in a club game.

Mac should take note - he takes pulled and dragged all day long and can't even get a free

As regards Gleesons red it is his own fault and he has nobody else to blame

Yellow (Wexford) - Posts: 589 - 28/03/2022 14:18:00    2407772

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Replying To Onfor15:  "This is ridiculous criticism.

We can disagree on tactics or team selection, but the man is entitled a private life. He should be able to go to watch another sporting event on a bank holiday without being ridiculed for it.

He is a school principal, a teacher and an intercounty manager. He essentially has 3 jobs and you're cribbing about him enjoying a day off?"
Completely agree with the above.

On a side note in 2019 when we could've won the All Ireland we had a similar decent league and then got hockeyed by Galway when the optimism was starting to build.
Waterford looked much sharper than us yesterday but we played into their hands and let them get their tails up. I wouldn't be overly worried if we learn from yesterday and change up the game plan a bit. As i said it looked like we were trying to lose at times and everything went completely against us. For their fourth goal we arguably should of had a penalty with Conor Mac being fouled instead its cleared and they go up and score a goal. Little swings in our favour would make a big difference.

Also any know how many wides we had?

LarryOBrother (Wexford) - Posts: 412 - 28/03/2022 14:33:59    2407777

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Replying To Blockandhook:  "Waterford were superior in every line. They simply just blew us away. Our backs were the worst I've seen for years. Flood should have been in there from the start. I think most of the team will have to take a close look at themselves in the mirror this morning. Rory was snuffed out throughout the game and constantly ran into roadblocks. Looks like Chin has a way to go before he's back to full fitness. The only lads that played fairly well were Dee and Reck. What about our championship prospects? Not good if you base it on yesterday's gutless display but really what they can do and i believe they will is forget about that game and hammer out the errors that cropped up time and time again. I honestly believe that we will see a different Wexford against Galway and in the games to follow. We are Wexford and we simply can't lie down and die."
We are Wexford and we wont lie down. But all the time I've been watching us we are experts in playing like superstars or no hopers with no real warning in advance which it will be!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16577 - 28/03/2022 14:37:43    2407778

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Replying To clooney:  "I agree it was an idiotic thing to retaliate, but no credit either to WX corner back who went down as if hid with a sledge hammer"
In fairness he did get back up without rolling around and asked the ref not to send Gleeson off. Was stupid out of Gleeson and equally so out of Jacko. Ok he was being held and it should have been a penalty but throwing his hurl was just just brainless.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16577 - 28/03/2022 14:43:27    2407781

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Replying To Past hurler:  "Yes went over with Sheedy and two other Tipp lads.

Wexford will still be in the mix for Leinster regardless of what happened yesterday.

We can beat Dublin, Kilkenny & Galway an any given day and them the same to us.

The Galway game 1st round of champo in Wexford Park is the right time to judge the players and Egan."
Said that on this forum from day 1 when lads were getting excited during the Walsh Cup and again during the League. If we get to a Leinster final or at least an AIQF I wouldnt care less about last Saturday.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16577 - 28/03/2022 14:45:21    2407783

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Wexford will recover but it won't be easy. I was not worried about Waterford getting beaten yesterday as long it was not a heavy defeat. The championship will always be the more urgent competition but don't agree the league does not matter. It is not good to be beaten so comprehensible in your last competitive outing. Cody does not accept losing a challenge game. However the flip side of that is we took a hammering in 2008 first round. Changed managers and Davy took us to the All-Ireland final. Hopefully that is what will happen here. Wexford seemed way off the pace of the game yesterday and that made it easier for Waterford. Even with an extra man could not get possession. I know it was over at that stage but not good. Wexford are way better than what we saw and the fight in them is always there. I won't be writing them off.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3137 - 28/03/2022 15:25:07    2407795

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Replying To bloodyban:  "Youd prefer no contact Wexico. You never stop looking for reds and commenting on harmless challenges. Most people want more contact. More shoulders..more physicality. Hard luck yesterday. Deflates the Hype totally which may help Wexford in the long run."
Well I got a similar butt of a hurl in last years club championship and had to have a kidney scan about a week later.
It isn't always innocuous as it looks

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1898 - 28/03/2022 15:32:41    2407800

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Replying To Onfor15:  "This is ridiculous criticism.

We can disagree on tactics or team selection, but the man is entitled a private life. He should be able to go to watch another sporting event on a bank holiday without being ridiculed for it.

He is a school principal, a teacher and an intercounty manager. He essentially has 3 jobs and you're cribbing about him enjoying a day off?"
I will take back that comment 100% if we beat galway. Otherwise I strongly suggest you put my comments about Cheltenham in your pipe and smoke it.

Wexpurebred (Wexford) - Posts: 205 - 28/03/2022 15:59:19    2407806

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Replying To logger:  "I do agree with that but looking at the incident again on tv, there really isn't anything in it. Gleeson handle of his hurl does connect with Donoghue and he goes down but look at Donoghue when the ref is taking Gleeson name to send him off, he looks embarrassed and is pleading with the ref to not send him off. IMO you shouldn't miss a league final for that, under the rules the ref is right to send him off as you say wexico15 he gave the ref a decision to make. I'd still hope Gleeson could play the final even if it meant Waterford had to go down the appeals route."
I actually think Waterford might be better off not appealing, i remember an ex Dublin footballer telling a story that Alan Brogan was sent off vs Galway in 2011 league and missed the league final due to it, he wanted to appeal but management decided not too with the logic that they felt you only get 1 appeal a year and didnt want to us it pre championship, as it transpired Diarmuid Connolly was sent off vs Donegal in the all ireland semi final but successfully appealed it to play vs Kerry in the final.

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 28/03/2022 16:04:58    2407808

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Replying To Wexpurebred:  "I will take back that comment 100% if we beat galway. Otherwise I strongly suggest you put my comments about Cheltenham in your pipe and smoke it."
Speaking of pipes i think i remember you piping up after the Walsh Cup final talking about how we won't see Croke Park for a long time, you probably went missing from here then for the duration of the league then until yesterday, unusual that.

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 28/03/2022 16:08:08    2407810

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Replying To logger:  "I do agree with that but looking at the incident again on tv, there really isn't anything in it. Gleeson handle of his hurl does connect with Donoghue and he goes down but look at Donoghue when the ref is taking Gleeson name to send him off, he looks embarrassed and is pleading with the ref to not send him off. IMO you shouldn't miss a league final for that, under the rules the ref is right to send him off as you say wexico15 he gave the ref a decision to make. I'd still hope Gleeson could play the final even if it meant Waterford had to go down the appeals route."
Fair assessment. Not excusing Gleeson b.s. either but everyone wants him punished for his past. Even though he has behaved for three years but gets provoked. I now understand better how it works. Cahill went to see Keenan after the game. Keenan said they are told to act on the umpires instructions. Not opinion anything else instructions. So if Gleeson elbow was broken and the umpire did not call any thing there would be just one red card. In this case he did not call the "tip" on Gleeson which I don't believe was much either. These guys who cannot see if the ball went between the posts have that authority ? It did not matter what O"Donaghue said after the fact the ref had no option. He should be ashamed of himself for his part in it. You great Wexford people should be as mad at him for a poke dished out 100 times a game as we are at Gleeson. This type of poke is on view every day before the ball is thrown in and that is fact.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3137 - 28/03/2022 16:26:06    2407818

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Replying To Canuck:  "Fair assessment. Not excusing Gleeson b.s. either but everyone wants him punished for his past. Even though he has behaved for three years but gets provoked. I now understand better how it works. Cahill went to see Keenan after the game. Keenan said they are told to act on the umpires instructions. Not opinion anything else instructions. So if Gleeson elbow was broken and the umpire did not call any thing there would be just one red card. In this case he did not call the "tip" on Gleeson which I don't believe was much either. These guys who cannot see if the ball went between the posts have that authority ? It did not matter what O"Donaghue said after the fact the ref had no option. He should be ashamed of himself for his part in it. You great Wexford people should be as mad at him for a poke dished out 100 times a game as we are at Gleeson. This type of poke is on view every day before the ball is thrown in and that is fact."
You seem to be forever defending Waterford on here but some times you have to hold hands up and say that a player was a tool. I would say Jack O'Connor was a tool for throwing the hurl and I also think that offence should be a straight red as it is "striking or attempting to strike with a hurl". And if Jack had done what Gleeson did I'd have said he was a tool as well.
When Gleeson was running out the pitch, he should have been 15ft away from Simon Donohoe, given what had just gone on. For right or wrong, walk away and don't give the referee a choice. The game is over, game won. Let Donohoe stew. Especially after the game Gleeson had. But he clearly couldn't help himself.
As per my post earlier, an "innocuous" dig of a hurl in the kidneys can have far more significant consequences than just being "ah sure, it goes on all the time" sort of whataboutery.

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1898 - 28/03/2022 17:00:10    2407831

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Replying To Wexpurebred:  "I will take back that comment 100% if we beat galway. Otherwise I strongly suggest you put my comments about Cheltenham in your pipe and smoke it."
Egan was around for the meet and greet on the Friday of Cheltenham. I also seem to remember we beat cork the following Sunday. Amazed at some of the flak thrown around. We didn't play well and were beaten by a very good team. Plain and simple

HurlingBuzz (Wexford) - Posts: 554 - 28/03/2022 17:10:10    2407834

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Replying To LarryOBrother:  "Completely agree with the above.

On a side note in 2019 when we could've won the All Ireland we had a similar decent league and then got hockeyed by Galway when the optimism was starting to build.
Waterford looked much sharper than us yesterday but we played into their hands and let them get their tails up. I wouldn't be overly worried if we learn from yesterday and change up the game plan a bit. As i said it looked like we were trying to lose at times and everything went completely against us. For their fourth goal we arguably should of had a penalty with Conor Mac being fouled instead its cleared and they go up and score a goal. Little swings in our favour would make a big difference.

Also any know how many wides we had?"
At least 18 Larry prob around 22 with shots dropped short.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16577 - 28/03/2022 17:58:43    2407853

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Replying To Canuck:  "Fair assessment. Not excusing Gleeson b.s. either but everyone wants him punished for his past. Even though he has behaved for three years but gets provoked. I now understand better how it works. Cahill went to see Keenan after the game. Keenan said they are told to act on the umpires instructions. Not opinion anything else instructions. So if Gleeson elbow was broken and the umpire did not call any thing there would be just one red card. In this case he did not call the "tip" on Gleeson which I don't believe was much either. These guys who cannot see if the ball went between the posts have that authority ? It did not matter what O"Donaghue said after the fact the ref had no option. He should be ashamed of himself for his part in it. You great Wexford people should be as mad at him for a poke dished out 100 times a game as we are at Gleeson. This type of poke is on view every day before the ball is thrown in and that is fact."
Sure he let them rule out Dwyers goal when they called the ball wide from behind the net. How on earth did he think they could see if the ball crossed the line from where they were?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16577 - 28/03/2022 18:02:42    2407856

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Replying To wexico15:  "I actually think Waterford might be better off not appealing, i remember an ex Dublin footballer telling a story that Alan Brogan was sent off vs Galway in 2011 league and missed the league final due to it, he wanted to appeal but management decided not too with the logic that they felt you only get 1 appeal a year and didnt want to us it pre championship, as it transpired Diarmuid Connolly was sent off vs Donegal in the all ireland semi final but successfully appealed it to play vs Kerry in the final."
Really I would not be surprised if Cahill left him out even if an appeal was successful. As good as Austin is, he is not God in Waterford anymore.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3137 - 28/03/2022 18:55:22    2407869

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Replying To Canuck:  "Fair assessment. Not excusing Gleeson b.s. either but everyone wants him punished for his past. Even though he has behaved for three years but gets provoked. I now understand better how it works. Cahill went to see Keenan after the game. Keenan said they are told to act on the umpires instructions. Not opinion anything else instructions. So if Gleeson elbow was broken and the umpire did not call any thing there would be just one red card. In this case he did not call the "tip" on Gleeson which I don't believe was much either. These guys who cannot see if the ball went between the posts have that authority ? It did not matter what O"Donaghue said after the fact the ref had no option. He should be ashamed of himself for his part in it. You great Wexford people should be as mad at him for a poke dished out 100 times a game as we are at Gleeson. This type of poke is on view every day before the ball is thrown in and that is fact."
Believe me, hurling folk in Wexford know Donohoe's form as he used the same tactic last year in the club championship here to get 2 players sent off. He was rightly castigated by a journalist in the local paper afterwards who called him a disgrace. He's not even good enough to be a starter on the team anyhow. Hadn't a clue where his man was for large parts of yesterday's game and Waterford attackers just walked right through him on a few occasions, one which led to a goal.

Purpleandgold72 (Wexford) - Posts: 275 - 28/03/2022 18:58:40    2407870

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Replying To Canuck:  "Fair assessment. Not excusing Gleeson b.s. either but everyone wants him punished for his past. Even though he has behaved for three years but gets provoked. I now understand better how it works. Cahill went to see Keenan after the game. Keenan said they are told to act on the umpires instructions. Not opinion anything else instructions. So if Gleeson elbow was broken and the umpire did not call any thing there would be just one red card. In this case he did not call the "tip" on Gleeson which I don't believe was much either. These guys who cannot see if the ball went between the posts have that authority ? It did not matter what O"Donaghue said after the fact the ref had no option. He should be ashamed of himself for his part in it. You great Wexford people should be as mad at him for a poke dished out 100 times a game as we are at Gleeson. This type of poke is on view every day before the ball is thrown in and that is fact."
The only person who should be ashamed of himself is Gleeson. Everyone, from all other counties knows what he like, except most of the waterford fans, take off the blue and white tinted glasses and go on to a waterford forum(your obsession with this forum is strange). Is he a good hurler yes but that where it ends. I once seen him throw an oppostion hurl into the stand (hitting a little girl)in disgust during a waterford club hurling championship match. If I was struck in the privates by a hurl I find it hard to stay standing up too.

hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 1150 - 28/03/2022 20:14:40    2407879

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Replying To Viking66:  "At least 18 Larry prob around 22 with shots dropped short."
38 scoring chances vs 48.

18 wides vs 16.

WEX98 (Wexford) - Posts: 546 - 28/03/2022 20:33:04    2407883

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