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Early days obviously but that was a worrying result and performance tonight. Hard to credit that Paul Morris is still getting selected as a starter, he was very poor in 2020 and 21. And McGovern and O'Hanlon too. I sincerely hope Egan is not picking these guys on reputation alone, if he is then it's going to be a long year or two. Seamus Casey would have been better opting to remain as sub goalie and eventually displace Fanning. Confidence will be low heading into next weeks clash v Limerick. Purpleandgold72 (Wexford) - Posts: 283 - 29/01/2022 19:23:22 2397048 Link 0 |
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I was at the game last night and we were way of it, It was extremely worrying, way off the pace, poor first touch, no physicality, no movement and camve man tactics. 2 injuries as well (hopefully not to bad) to top of what was all in all a miserable night. Good support up there though as always. hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 1197 - 30/01/2022 08:48:05 2397088 Link 0 |
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While it was obviously a very disappointing display and a repeat of it would be concerning I firmly believe ( I'm a broken record for this) that pre season and league form can be taken with a slight pinch of salt in hurling since the provincial round robin's were introduced there's countless examples of fluctuating form. 2019 Waterford made the league final and lost all 4 munster games that year hammered in 3 of them, same year Tipp won the All Ireland after an unconvincing league including losing to Dublin in Thurles in league QF. Last year ( No round robin to be fair) Galway were the most impressive team in the league and subsequently the biggest disappointment in championship, we got battered by Kilkenny there was a similar outcry here after that game, although we didn't get the result we went toe to toe with them in the Leinster semi final 4-5 weeks later, there's more examples I could reel off. Point being I judge us solely on our Leinster championship and hopefully subsequent championship games rather than Walsh Cup games in January. Does yesterday's game matter much when we play Dublin on April 23/24 maybe a small bit but definitely not significant. bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 30/01/2022 09:04:31 2397093 Link 0 |
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A depressing performance and the manner of the defeat doesn't bode well for what is coming in the league and championship.The white flag was waved from the 10th minute. Workrate should be a given with any team regardless of what competition you're playing in. Dublin dictated proceedings as they wished and were pinging the ball around without any pressure being applied by a wexford player. I'm expecting a big response from the team next Sunday against the all Ireland champions. If we don't see one it'll be another hiding . HurlingBuzz (Wexford) - Posts: 556 - 30/01/2022 10:29:20 2397104 Link 0 |
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Defeat isn't the issue for me as teams can be at different stages of preparation at this time of year…. It was the manner of the defeat with no fight at all shown which I can't understand
HurlingBuzz (Wexford) - Posts: 556 - 30/01/2022 10:40:27 2397107 Link 0 |
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Maybe there was an element of shadow boxing with our puckout strategy on both our and their puckouts. Time will tell.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19243 - 30/01/2022 10:47:36 2397111 Link 0 |
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While that's exactly what I was saying pre-game yesterday, and it may sound like I am contradicting myself, the manner of defeat has to be a concern. There's no way the management team went out to play as poorly deliberately, but at the same time they hardly went up to Croker not to win either, so there must be some concern there. The most worrying aspect is that there seemed to be no discernable gameplan only to hit it in long to Mac, who was in the pocket of O'Donnell. It's going to tough to turn it around in the space of a week, even with what I would expect to be a bumper crowd in Wexford Park roaring us on. Lose that, and we go to Clare, who are our bogey team. Quickly, it could turn into a baptism of fire for Egan as he chases a maiden win in a worthwhile competition. But yes, the real big-boy stuff begins in April. beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1530 - 30/01/2022 10:59:27 2397117 Link 0 |
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Starting championship team based on current form in Walsh Cup and assuming the injured lads are back and in good form by then- Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19243 - 30/01/2022 11:08:03 2397122 Link 0 |
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Starting championship team based on current form in Walsh Cup and assuming the injured lads are back and in good form by then- Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19243 - 30/01/2022 11:08:12 2397123 Link 0 |
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I don't think any team deliberately goes out to lose a game or perform like we did but I can assure you looking at the pre season comps and league last 4-5 years there's always results which seem very inconsistent with the teams involved in particular games, I'd put it this way if I was a Dublin supporter I'd be hugely encouraged by the result and their performance but also realistic that in all likelihood that game will be a world away from the championship game in April.
bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 30/01/2022 11:58:47 2397137 Link 0 |
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If performances like last night become a pattern that is definitely concerning but I'd reserve some judgement on 1 performance in January with a new management and road testing possible new gameplans which we might not see come championship.
bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 30/01/2022 12:22:02 2397139 Link 0 |
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Curious to see jack O'Connor substituted early both last week and yesterday. He seems to be suffering from being asked to play in a different position in so many games. He's been one of the best players in the local championship for the last 2/3 years but has struggled to nail down his place in the county team. Personally I'd like to see him get a run of games at left half back in the league
HurlingBuzz (Wexford) - Posts: 556 - 30/01/2022 12:34:43 2397145 Link 0 |
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limk wexford could be close enough next sunday as wexford are at home will have a huge support plus im not so sure that limerick will have a strong team out im guessing 5 or 6 regulars.....john kielys main aim will be winning 3 all irelands in a row . munsterchamps (Limerick) - Posts: 1151 - 30/01/2022 12:53:23 2397150 Link 0 |
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Yes, his best game came in that position albiet against our weakest opponents (no disrespect to Laois). For me it's his only position if he is to be a starter.
beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1530 - 30/01/2022 13:16:06 2397158 Link 0 |
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Is he better at half back than 4 of Murphy, Bailey, Flood, MOH and Damien Reck?
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19243 - 30/01/2022 13:26:34 2397160 Link 0 |
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I'd say that would depend on the team Darragh Egan picks and the way he sets up. Nobody really knows what his plans tactically are. He hasnt shown his hand at all in the Walsh Cup as he has tried to give as many lads as possible a run out while playing a pretty traditional 15 on 15. As noone has played that way and won anything in a good few years I'd imagine he has had the lads practicing whatever system he is planning to use behind closed doors. I do know Chin, ROC, Kevin Foley, and Liam Ryan have been our best players by a long way the last few years and 3 of those are currently injured while Ryan has been off form so far this year. I think for us to be competitive against Limerick we would need all 4 to be at the top of their games and the likes of DOK and Mac to rediscover the form they are well capable of. That's the spine of our team, along with Paudie Foley who hasnt looked too bad so far playing centreback to be fair. If 3 of them are missing altogether with injury and the other 4 arent fully up to speed, as looks the case so far this year, I fear we might get another bad beating next weekend. We have other good players and prospects for sure but any team needs leaders.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19243 - 30/01/2022 13:41:36 2397162 Link 0 |
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Jack cullen?
hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 1197 - 30/01/2022 13:41:53 2397163 Link 0 |
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Was at it yesterday. Result a worry, nah not really, it's January. Performance a worry, a little maybe but again it's only January. But the comment above in regards to a complete lack of gameplay other than "drive it" yes that's a worry. It's almost like do the opposite of what's being done for the last few years at the very least to be accepted. As another poster alluded to its caveman tactics, if that's to be our game plan forget about it, sure the auld fellas roaring from the stand will be delighted "shur that's proper hurling" and everything Davy didn't do so can only be good. Hopefully it's a bit of shadow boxing for the rest of the year with a reluctance to show anything of note for the year ahead. tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1642 - 30/01/2022 13:56:41 2397165 Link 0 |
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Apart from the challenge match in Tipp theres been no sign of Cullen for some reason. But yes if hes fully fit it would be his best position also. Tbh its furthur up the pitch we look light on numbers. Oisin Foley has looked good so far and Pepper, Byrne and Higgins have shown they have great potential but all seem the fast low down types and what we are sorely lacking are lads to win long ball up top. Chin is an obvious choice that way but is the only one. Jacko didnt really shine at wing forward either when Davy tried him there. Aidan Nolan looked good in the championship when Bunclody threw him up there to try and get a goal but isnt in the panel. Although Egan did say "at the moment" in the paper.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19243 - 30/01/2022 15:00:43 2397171 Link 0 |
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Dont think I've ever seen him hurl for the seniors. He has all the attributes to play there Definitely worth a look if he's involved this year
HurlingBuzz (Wexford) - Posts: 556 - 30/01/2022 15:08:58 2397172 Link 0 |