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Replying To Lockerroomboy:  "Was at the vols match, worst performance I ever seen from a team, that vols team would be hard set to win the junior b championship, don't have footballers but must be other factors too ie getting hammered and conceding a walk over, will be relegated unfortunately"
Could be other factors at play as well but hard to see a turnaround happening. Not a good sight to see for Wexford football.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1800 - 08/10/2021 16:53:22    2384945

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Some serious mettle, and championship contending form, shown by St.Martin's in the third quarter last night. To go from trailing by three at HT to being home and hosed in the blink of an eye is impressive as they could have easily retreated into their shell given how their hurling season went.

Another farcical scoreline last night too in Intermediate- Crossabeg 5-19 Glynn 0-2. Going by the timeline on twitter, Glynn only scored their first point after fifty minutes. There seems to be a gulf in class developing in some of the grades, albiet with the proviso that it was Glynn's second string.

beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1409 - 09/10/2021 10:51:27    2384982

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Replying To Lockerroomboy:  "Was at the vols match, worst performance I ever seen from a team, that vols team would be hard set to win the junior b championship, don't have footballers but must be other factors too ie getting hammered and conceding a walk over, will be relegated unfortunately"
the vols have a full time coach employed by co board, and he training them as well

Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 2840 - 09/10/2021 11:15:45    2384986

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Castletown really got out of dodge. Some balls to go for goal when the point was the wise option. Hard luck for Bunclody but I think they will beat Kilanerin and take the scalp of someone else along the way.

Rest of the favourites won convincingly enough and there does seem to be a gap developing between the contenders and also-rans.

beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1409 - 09/10/2021 21:43:14    2385072

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Replying To beano:  "Castletown really got out of dodge. Some balls to go for goal when the point was the wise option. Hard luck for Bunclody but I think they will beat Kilanerin and take the scalp of someone else along the way.

Rest of the favourites won convincingly enough and there does seem to be a gap developing between the contenders and also-rans."
You're dead right there beano, castletown really got out of dodge.

Could you, or anyone else, explain why they were given a free out after the bunclody player claimed a "mark", which led directly to the late, late winning goal ??

yelowbelly (Wexford) - Posts: 409 - 09/10/2021 21:55:26    2385073

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Replying To yelowbelly:  "You're dead right there beano, castletown really got out of dodge.

Could you, or anyone else, explain why they were given a free out after the bunclody player claimed a "mark", which led directly to the late, late winning goal ??"
Didn't see the game but one reason would be he wasn't entitled to claim the mark but stopped playing and overheld the ball

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1800 - 10/10/2021 08:07:59    2385080

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Replying To yelowbelly:  "You're dead right there beano, castletown really got out of dodge.

Could you, or anyone else, explain why they were given a free out after the bunclody player claimed a "mark", which led directly to the late, late winning goal ??"
Didn't see the game myself, maybe the player claimed a mark after receiving a pass from a free kick? Mark has to be receiving a kick in open play, either that or ball didn't travel required distance when passed?

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 10/10/2021 08:08:21    2385081

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Was at the senior double header in Wexford Park yesterday, 1st game was decent for 20-25 mins but worryingly for Horeswood they wilted badly when Glynn upped the gears. They opened them up at will with direct running. Interestingly given the result of their 2nd string, 3 players who figured prominently on that team winning intermediate A last year Michael Doyle, Kevin Mahoney and Shane Wilde were key cogs in their performance, a few well taken Jamie Myler points probably the highlight for the Woodies. 2nd game was an unusual game, between the 2 teams well over 10 goal chances I'd be guessing. Shels looked hell bent on going for goals after getting 2 in the 1st 3-4 mins, probably tried to force it at times when the more prudent option was to take points given they held a lead of 8 or 9 points for long spells of the game. Typically it was more of a some of the parts type performance from them rather than stand out performers, Noticeable Brian Malone was more effective this week at full forward while moving Craig Mccabe to goal could give them a new dimension regarding kickouts, on that point noticed Matty was down to wear 1 for Kilanerin's 2nd string on the weekend programme. Credit to Fethard for plugging away when others might have fell away, they missed some goal chances themselves in the last 10 mins which could have brought an exciting finish. John Tubritt had some good moments while the big revelation was Cian Byrne on his adult football debut, on the evidence of yesterday will be as big an addition for them in football as he was in hurling, strong family tree with his father playing both codes for Wexford and his mother 1 of the Carleys from Glynn. He'd be my player of the week candidate from the 2 games.Interestingly too 3 penalties awarded in the 2 games all missed, only Glynn not to get one. Didn't see either Bellefield game, Bunclody must be gutted, I would have considered them winning a shock I must say, Castletown probably feel that they'll need to improve for the knockouts in 3 weeks.

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 10/10/2021 08:15:44    2385083

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Replying To yelowbelly:  "You're dead right there beano, castletown really got out of dodge.

Could you, or anyone else, explain why they were given a free out after the bunclody player claimed a "mark", which led directly to the late, late winning goal ??"
The ball was kicked in the required distance but the referee blew for a mark without the player calling for it. He then dallied on the ball a couple of seconds before finally putting his hand up for the mark, and he was done for over-carrying. Perhaps harsh on Bunclody, and sickening given what transpired thereafter, but it was a referring error to begin with.

beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1409 - 10/10/2021 10:49:53    2385090

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Replying To beano:  "The ball was kicked in the required distance but the referee blew for a mark without the player calling for it. He then dallied on the ball a couple of seconds before finally putting his hand up for the mark, and he was done for over-carrying. Perhaps harsh on Bunclody, and sickening given what transpired thereafter, but it was a referring error to begin with."
Thanks for clarifying that beano. From my vantage point on the opposite side I wasn't sure what was going on.

yelowbelly (Wexford) - Posts: 409 - 10/10/2021 11:36:18    2385096

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Replying To beano:  "The ball was kicked in the required distance but the referee blew for a mark without the player calling for it. He then dallied on the ball a couple of seconds before finally putting his hand up for the mark, and he was done for over-carrying. Perhaps harsh on Bunclody, and sickening given what transpired thereafter, but it was a referring error to begin with."
So what was the referee error? The ref must blow the whistle to award the mark it's up to the player to put up arm to take mark. As u said Beano player dallied on ball for few seconds then went to take mark so was seen as play on by the ref. He then stood there with ball in hand and he was blown for over carrying. Unfortunately I think the rule on Mark's are silly but in my opinion it was a player error not a referee error. Was walking out of belfield after the game and the verbal abuse directed at the referee by supporters was colourful to say the least. We are trying to get younger referees to officiate and then be abused after match. I am a clubman of Eamons and I don't think the abuse will worry him too much in the line of work he is in but still not good enough

straighttalkin (Wexford) - Posts: 15 - 11/10/2021 07:13:50    2385175

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Didn't see St James and Starlights but seemed eventful going on the St James Twitter, couple of red cards for St James, lead changing hands and couple of Starlights injury time goals possibly gave a flattering scoreline.
Weekend results leave Castletown, Starlights and Shels through to QF, Martins and Glynn meeting to decide who wins there group on Friday, actually think its somewhat significant as loser will have to play 7 Weekends in a row if they make the final, maybe this caught up with the Annes in the hurling. Horeswood and Sarsfields meeting next Saturday a knock out game with loser in the relegation play offs. Crossabeg and Cushinstown have QF spots sown up in Intermediate with the other 2 groups been sorted next weekend.

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 11/10/2021 08:23:29    2385178

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While its great that the games are live over the weekend, I do miss being able to watch the highlights of the games, all the senior games, was a good way of catching up on bits of each match that Wexfordtoday used to do. I imagine alot of work envolved but would like to see wexford gaa start this again.

alwaysasub (Wexford) - Posts: 403 - 11/10/2021 09:19:35    2385183

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Replying To straighttalkin:  "So what was the referee error? The ref must blow the whistle to award the mark it's up to the player to put up arm to take mark. As u said Beano player dallied on ball for few seconds then went to take mark so was seen as play on by the ref. He then stood there with ball in hand and he was blown for over carrying. Unfortunately I think the rule on Mark's are silly but in my opinion it was a player error not a referee error. Was walking out of belfield after the game and the verbal abuse directed at the referee by supporters was colourful to say the least. We are trying to get younger referees to officiate and then be abused after match. I am a clubman of Eamons and I don't think the abuse will worry him too much in the line of work he is in but still not good enough"
Sorry, I didn't mean to implicate the ref, it was a error by the player. As you say, Eamon would be thick-skinned enough not to worry about the abuse.

I have been told by a couple of lads close to the camp that Bunclody weren't happy with the amount of injury-time that was played. They allege there was up to eight minutes, which is pure fabrication as I had five on my stopwatch when the goal went in and that was the last kick of the game (and I routinely pause it for each water break). Bunclody indulged in every time wasting tactic known to man, including bringing on at least two late subs, while there were a couple of injury stoppages towards the end as well. If I were them, I'd be more sickened at not holding on against fourteen men, letting the GK advance as far as the full-forward line and allowing Brosnan to be open right in front of the sticks.

beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1409 - 11/10/2021 10:04:43    2385191

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Replying To wexico15:  "Didn't see St James and Starlights but seemed eventful going on the St James Twitter, couple of red cards for St James, lead changing hands and couple of Starlights injury time goals possibly gave a flattering scoreline.
Weekend results leave Castletown, Starlights and Shels through to QF, Martins and Glynn meeting to decide who wins there group on Friday, actually think its somewhat significant as loser will have to play 7 Weekends in a row if they make the final, maybe this caught up with the Annes in the hurling. Horeswood and Sarsfields meeting next Saturday a knock out game with loser in the relegation play offs. Crossabeg and Cushinstown have QF spots sown up in Intermediate with the other 2 groups been sorted next weekend."
Probably fancy Maudlintown to beat Fintans but it would be a close call. If they do they will top the group if they lose it will be Ferns. Taghmon need at least a draw against Gorey to top the group any loss will see them 2nd or 3rd. Again hard to predict as Gorey wont be as poor as they were against Duffry. I think it will be the preliminary quarter finals before anyone can know who is actually going well for the year and who isnt.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11734 - 11/10/2021 10:30:51    2385196

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Replying To Viking66:  "Probably fancy Maudlintown to beat Fintans but it would be a close call. If they do they will top the group if they lose it will be Ferns. Taghmon need at least a draw against Gorey to top the group any loss will see them 2nd or 3rd. Again hard to predict as Gorey wont be as poor as they were against Duffry. I think it will be the preliminary quarter finals before anyone can know who is actually going well for the year and who isnt."
Thing about Maudlintown v St. Fintan's is that St. Fintan's can't top the group, no matter what. And with the next round being an open draw, there's no sort of advantage to finishing second in the group either.

I know nobody deliberately lessens the effort in a match like that, but still, it has to make some bit of difference on even a subconscious level when you know the end result of the match won't really matter one way or the other.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2229 - 11/10/2021 11:03:48    2385204

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Replying To Viking66:  "Probably fancy Maudlintown to beat Fintans but it would be a close call. If they do they will top the group if they lose it will be Ferns. Taghmon need at least a draw against Gorey to top the group any loss will see them 2nd or 3rd. Again hard to predict as Gorey wont be as poor as they were against Duffry. I think it will be the preliminary quarter finals before anyone can know who is actually going well for the year and who isnt."
Think your right on the last sentence, in Intermediate I think Crossabeg have the highest ceiling and if they maintain a high level they'll be hard to stop, but they've produced some surprisingly poor performances on the odd occasions in recent years, 2019 final only scored 4 points against Bunclody, last year lost to Ferns and only 1 player scored for Ferns.

In Senior its noticeable the Ross district clubs have dropped back, I think Gusserane in 2019 is the only occasion in the last 4 years any of them have made the last 4 or further, if you were doing a power rankings you wouldn't have any of them in the top 5 who would probably be Shels, Castletown, Martins, Starlights and Glynn.

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 11/10/2021 11:15:10    2385207

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "Thing about Maudlintown v St. Fintan's is that St. Fintan's can't top the group, no matter what. And with the next round being an open draw, there's no sort of advantage to finishing second in the group either.

I know nobody deliberately lessens the effort in a match like that, but still, it has to make some bit of difference on even a subconscious level when you know the end result of the match won't really matter one way or the other."
I agree but to clarify preliminary QF is not open draw, 4 2nd placed teams in 1 pot and 3rd placed teams in the other pot and no repeat pairings of group phase allowed, although games outside of Crossabeg look to have been competitive so i doubt the standard of 2nd and 3rd placed teams will be much different.

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 11/10/2021 11:27:12    2385211

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Replying To wexico15:  "Think your right on the last sentence, in Intermediate I think Crossabeg have the highest ceiling and if they maintain a high level they'll be hard to stop, but they've produced some surprisingly poor performances on the odd occasions in recent years, 2019 final only scored 4 points against Bunclody, last year lost to Ferns and only 1 player scored for Ferns.

In Senior its noticeable the Ross district clubs have dropped back, I think Gusserane in 2019 is the only occasion in the last 4 years any of them have made the last 4 or further, if you were doing a power rankings you wouldn't have any of them in the top 5 who would probably be Shels, Castletown, Martins, Starlights and Glynn."
And we are always led to believe that a strong New Ross district is good for the game in the county.

beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1409 - 11/10/2021 11:32:21    2385212

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Replying To wexico15:  "Think your right on the last sentence, in Intermediate I think Crossabeg have the highest ceiling and if they maintain a high level they'll be hard to stop, but they've produced some surprisingly poor performances on the odd occasions in recent years, 2019 final only scored 4 points against Bunclody, last year lost to Ferns and only 1 player scored for Ferns.

In Senior its noticeable the Ross district clubs have dropped back, I think Gusserane in 2019 is the only occasion in the last 4 years any of them have made the last 4 or further, if you were doing a power rankings you wouldn't have any of them in the top 5 who would probably be Shels, Castletown, Martins, Starlights and Glynn."
in Defence of the Ross Teams I think the James' were a bit unlucky (also very Stupid) yesterday 2 men sent off for off the ball stuff and then an Injury to KOG. They were right in that game yesterday until they were reduced to 13 men and playing very good football. They will be short a few for next weeks game so i wouldn't read too much into that result but i wouldnt like to face them in the Prelim Quarters or Quarter final. Would agree that the other 5 are the best of the pack.

indaknownow (Offaly) - Posts: 112 - 11/10/2021 11:51:40    2385217

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