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Replying To beano: "Senior team of the year:
Craig McCabe (Shels)- adapted seamlessly to his new role.
Joe Barrett (St.Martin's)- excellent all year, although I thought it was curious moving up to wing-forward in the semi-final.
Billy Kelly (HWH)- perhaps the stickiest marker in the championship this year.
Graham Staples (Shels)- his goal in the semi was the highlight of a solid campaign.
Rory O'Connor (St.Martin's)- was my footballer of the year right up the semis. Outstanding in both codes.
Gavin Sheehan (Gusserane)- the spiritual leader of Gusserane, just pips his team-mate Mark O'Neill to a spot.
Glen Malone (Shels)- back to his best, hopefully he comes back into the county set-up.
Martin O'Connor (HWH)- outstanding player and my pick as captain of the county team.
Sean Keane Carroll (Shels)- strong ball winner and powerful runner.
Robbie Brooks (Castletown)- best performer for the North county men by a distance.
Brian Malone (Shels)- revolutionised up front, has had some career. Could he be a link-man for Wexford next year in one last hurrah?
John Dunne (HWH)- the amount of work he does off the ball is unreal. Best display was vs Starlights, but generally good every day.
Darren Codd (St.Martin's)- was the top scorer of the entire championship before yesterday's final, under-rated.
Mark Rossiter (Gusserane)- one of the dealiest finishers in the game, a joy to watch in full flow.
Sean Ryan (Gusserane)- possesses a great goal threat, was back to his elusive best this year." Graeme Cullen's absence from this is a bad omission.
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My senior team of the year
Craig McCabe (Michael Ryan was close but McCabe deserves credit for a seemless transition from outfield)
Gavin Sheehan ( Arguably in the top 3-5 footballers in the county)
Mark O'Neill ( Wasn't FB but could do a job here an excellent driving force for Gusserane)
Graham Staples ( So consistent, worth a shot at the county panel if he wanted to give it a go)
Rory O'Connor ( Outstanding couple of seasons in the big ball)
Simon Donohoe ( My MOTM yesterday)
Glen Malone ( Very good across both codes, took on the freetaking responsibility with McCabe in goal)
Martin O'Connor ( No explanation needed)
Aidan Nolan ( Himself and O'Connor both automatic picks for me, everything to the Bunclody team)
Greame Cullen ( Quiet yesterday but POTY contender coming into the final)
Sean Keane Carroll ( Slightly out of position but couldn't leave out the 2 Bunclody men)
Paidi Hughes ( Outstanding in both preliminary QF and quarter final, potential decade long intercounty career)
Mark Rossiter ( Best striker of a ball in the county)
Brian Malone ( Smart and so effective in the new role)
Darren Codd ( Great scoring return all year, potentially worth an intercounty call up too)
So many notable mentions both Gusserane midfielders unlucky along with Eoin and Mini Ryan. Padraig O'Leary arguably the individual performance of the year against Glynn but then quieter in the last 2 games, a number of Shels players were very good yesterday but quieter in previous games probably there biggest strength is different players thriving each day. Philip Dempsey with St Martins, Patrick Kavanagh, Eoin and Billy Kelly with Bunclody, Robbie Brooks, Niall Hughes all decent campaigns. Kevin O'Grady really stood up Friday night under the highest pressure, Dylan Furlong had a good year again for Sarsfields.
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Replying To alwaysasub: "On the abuse to referees is shocking. Looking at Twitter on Saturday night, a person tweeting shocking abuse at the referee of the junior football final even after they won. Tweeting later that night how bad he was, a Kilrush supporter and being retweeted by the club account. The official kilrush/Askamore account also went on a tirade against a referee earlier in the championship. Absolutely shocking stuff. I couldn't believe what I was reading. Obviously a problem in the club" This is a complete lie. The club account never tweeted a single thing all day yesterday, as we were streaming the game on Facebook: https://twitter.com/kilaskgaa
I defy you to find any "tirade" against a ref from earlier in the Championship either. Our PRO chooses his words carefully and doesn't deserve to be libelled by some anonymous fantasist on here.
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hear there are 2 or 3 clubs [got no names] very unhappy with the split season, and are planning a meeting to see what they can do but they are afraid they will be ate alive if or when they go public, ud need no masters degree to figure out who tyhey are
Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 2842 - 15/11/2021 15:11:23
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Replying To Azamat: "I have no idea what teams you have coached/managed or what honours you have won, so I'm not going to get in to a childish debate over who has a better understanding of the game.
However, I take from your comments that you have coached teams at a high level, so you must admit that it is simplistic to say "team concedes lots so you just put everyone back behind the ball". There are so many other factors to making systems work and a lot depends on the profile of players, squad depth, commitment of players etc. It is not entirely down to a coach, as you state.
Also, The tactic of flooding bodies back and leaving a few forwards up field has failed for lots of teams and is becoming an outdated tactic." Especially for clubs who generally dont get inward transfers alot does indeed depend on age profile and squad depth. More importantly I know from personal friends' experiences that collective commitment of the players can make a huge difference. I know of several cases over the last 30 years where a core of a panel made a concerted effort for a period of a year or years, in the form of intensive gym and cardio work over a winter or winters and achieved more, with pretty much the sane playing personnel, in the subsequent year or years on the back of this extra work put in. Yes coaching and tactics are becoming ever more important but they count for little if the players dont buy in.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11847 - 15/11/2021 15:53:28
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Replying To Pikeman96: "On a different note altogether...now that we're almost finished with this year's championships, what does anybody think about how next year's should be run, and specifically about the split club season between hurling and football?
Don't mind admitting I'm more of a hurling man myself and gut reaction would normally be to say keep the hurling first, on what's generally better pitches and in what's generally better weather during July/August/September. For example, don't think anybody would argue with the statement that conditions in Wexford Park yesterday were dull and dreary, and wouldn't exactly be ideal for hurling.
On the other hand, you could also get a clear and bright day like today, when you could hurl all right. And other counties like Kilkenny, Cork, Dublin, Tipp, etc., are all having their semi-finals and finals over these few weeks. THere's also the consideration that Wexford champions would surely be at a big disadvantage for the provincial championship every year if they've an eight or ten week gap between the county final and their first match in Leinster.
So, just wondering what anybody thinks?" I think the 8 or 10 week gap will be disastrous although I heard a whisper that the Rapps lads were still doing some hurling during the Starlights football campaign it definitely wouldn't be as good as competitive hurling in the run up to the Leinster championship. I definitely think that gap hindered the Leinster u21 champions relative to their Munster counterparts as the Leinster was wrapped up by early July while the Munster fi al was only 2 weeks before the All Ireland series.
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Replying To beano: "And speaking of unneccessary abuse of officials, I was at a game during the hurling season of one of the clubs that were crowned champions this weekend. Was junior B, but not knock-out. The referee was getting a barrage of abuse all match, and wasn't to blame at all for this club losing, and a spectator casually walked onto the field to confront him afterwards and without a hint of irony told him 'he should be ashamed of himself'. Scandalous carry on." And then lads wonder why good men dont stay on refereeing and thats if they bother becoming one in the first place. Absolutely baffling......
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11847 - 15/11/2021 16:01:47
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Replying To beano: "Non-senior team of year:
Dylan Owens (Maudlintown)- no stand-out candidate so plumped for a lad whose heroics in the semi-final penalty shoot-out saw them through.
Tommy Devereux (Kilrush)- rocky steady presence for them all year, great servant for club.
Alex Lynch (Mauldintown)- in my opinion, one of the most under-rated defenders in any grade.
Jamie Keating (Clongeen)- driving force for his side all year as they return to the second tier.
Brian Cushe (Naomh Eanna)- this fella has a bucket load of talent, his display vs Ferns was one of the best I seen all year.
Ronan Devereux (Crossabeg)- as wexico said, he is the leader of a good Crossabeg side. Wexford really are blessed with good defenders recently.
Michael Sweeney (Monageer)- consistently among the best performers in the junior grade, was the man of the hour in their semi win.
Paddy Devereux (Crossabeg)- as good a midfielder as there is around, his loss to Canada is a blow for club and county.
Paudie Foley (Crossabeg)- as good with the big ball as he is with the sliothar. Consistenly excellent for the new champs.
Cian Molloy (Naomh Eanna)- always seemed to pop up with a crucial score when Gorey needed it.
Connall Flood (Cloughbawn)- another county hurler who is a very handy footballer.
Daryl Murphy (Clongeen)- goal scoring threat who really caught the eye.
Bob Whitty (Cloughbawn)- unlucky to miss out on one of my team of the week selections, his good form is acknowledged now.
Paul Murphy (Maudlintown)- automatic inclusion as the catalyst to St.Mary's march to the final.
Tomas Kinsella (Kilrush)- excellent prospect. Scored the difference making goal in the semi-final and conjured up a goal out of nothing in the final too." Notable mention for Duffry pair John Dunne and Aidan Byrne.
bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 15/11/2021 16:44:48
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Replying To tearintom: "I could be wrong but was it not the case that when the split season was first brought in that for the first 2 years it was to be Hurling first and then flipping to football first for 2 years (could be completely wrong on that)" I don't know. But even if that was the original idea....what do people think of it?
Personally - and admitting again to my own preference for hurling - I'd be inclined to say that while it'd be one thing to only have the closing stages of the hurling championships around now, it'd be another thing altogether to not even start hurling until late September, when most or all of July, all of August, and most of September is also available for club fixtures.
Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2246 - 15/11/2021 16:46:50
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Replying To Stmunnsriver: "hear there are 2 or 3 clubs [got no names very unhappy with the split season, and are planning a meeting to see what they can do but they are afraid they will be ate alive if or when they go public, ud need no masters degree to figure out who tyhey are"]I'm going to guess Wexford town football clubs and Castletown, possibly 1 or 2 Ross district teams?
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Replying To Onfor15: "Graeme Cullen's absence from this is a bad omission." In hindsight it is, and he completely slipped my mind. Put him in for Brooks.
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Replying To 3753Cruithne: "This is a complete lie. The club account never tweeted a single thing all day yesterday, as we were streaming the game on Facebook: https://twitter.com/kilaskgaa
I defy you to find any "tirade" against a ref from earlier in the Championship either. Our PRO chooses his words carefully and doesn't deserve to be libelled by some anonymous fantasist on here." My apologies. Your right. Not by the club. A member of your club did tweet abuse to the match official though and i know you can't legislate for that but was terrible to see.
alwaysasub (Wexford) - Posts: 403 - 15/11/2021 17:52:54
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Replying To wexico15: " Replying To Stmunnsriver: "hear there are 2 or 3 clubs [got no names very unhappy with the split season, and are planning a meeting to see what they can do but they are afraid they will be ate alive if or when they go public, ud need no masters degree to figure out who tyhey are"
beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1417 - 15/11/2021 17:54:51
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Replying To 3753Cruithne: "This is a complete lie. The club account never tweeted a single thing all day yesterday, as we were streaming the game on Facebook: https://twitter.com/kilaskgaa
I defy you to find any "tirade" against a ref from earlier in the Championship either. Our PRO chooses his words carefully and doesn't deserve to be libelled by some anonymous fantasist on here." My apologies your right. It was a person tweeting the being retweeted by another Twitter user but the fact remains the level of abuse was scandalous. Who would want to be a referee.
alwaysasub (Wexford) - Posts: 403 - 15/11/2021 19:55:21
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Replying To wexico15: " Replying To Stmunnsriver: "hear there are 2 or 3 clubs [got no names very unhappy with the split season, and are planning a meeting to see what they can do but they are afraid they will be ate alive if or when they go public, ud need no masters degree to figure out who tyhey are"
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11847 - 15/11/2021 21:52:37
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Replying To wexico15: " Replying To Stmunnsriver: "hear there are 2 or 3 clubs [got no names very unhappy with the split season, and are planning a meeting to see what they can do but they are afraid they will be ate alive if or when they go public, ud need no masters degree to figure out who tyhey are"
Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 2842 - 16/11/2021 08:16:13
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no they are all hurlng cluibs i heard
Have heard nothing about this myself, but could be hurling clubs like Rathnure, Oulart/The Ballagh, and Buffers Alley, who play little or no football at all?
Their whole championship could be as little as three weeks from start to finish with the way things were run these past of couple of years. Even in the "old" way of doing it (two groups of six), their championship would be at most eight weeks out of the whole year. I suppose that's a very short time if you're not taking the football seriously as well for an equal number of weeks.
Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2246 - 16/11/2021 10:56:07
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Replying To Pikeman96: "no they are all hurlng cluibs i heard
Have heard nothing about this myself, but could be hurling clubs like Rathnure, Oulart/The Ballagh, and Buffers Alley, who play little or no football at all?
Their whole championship could be as little as three weeks from start to finish with the way things were run these past of couple of years. Even in the "old" way of doing it (two groups of six), their championship would be at most eight weeks out of the whole year. I suppose that's a very short time if you're not taking the football seriously as well for an equal number of weeks." There are a lot of players in clubs that play football but not hurling as well. While the split season may be good for the majority, I would question if its really helping improve the standard of the game at the top level. Some of the top players in either code may only be getting 4 games in their code, I don't see that as a good thing.
Not really sure what the solution is however the one thing they have to change is the u20. It has to be played over the summer even if that means they play football when the adult group is hurling, we have to keep players in the game. The first round of the u20 football is the 27th/28th,. No more excuses for this rubbish, too many players are quitting after minor because u20 holds no attraction to them.
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Interesting next year there will be 6 dual Senior clubs ( Crossabeg, Shels, Glynn, Martins, Annes and Rapps/Starlights) while there will also be crossover with Harriers and Sarsfields.
bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 16/11/2021 12:27:11
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The term split season has been confused.
It originally meant intercounty first and completed before club championship started.
Wexford for Covid reasons adopted a split season between hurling and football.
However it needs to go back to alternative weeks from 2022 onwards with 2 groups of 6.
It isn't sensible to expect one code to down tools for the duration of the other code for 7/8 weeks. There is no need for it and contrary to popular belief, it hasn't resulted in the championships being any better or of a higher standard.
Both our hurling and football championships were relatively competitive but of a bad standard.
Onfor15 (Wexford) - Posts: 524 - 16/11/2021 14:53:51
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