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Mayo V Tyrone All-Ireland Football Final

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For me it's the first final Mayo will go in as favourites. They've never been the best team in any of the finals they've lost and probably over achieved by getting so close on a number of occasions as they've always been underdogs. This is their year.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 29/08/2021 09:16:43    2375860

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Replying To brisbane:  "Mayo will over run Tyrone and should win by 10-15 points easily"
Its not Kildare that they're playing in the final.

BeJasus (UK) - Posts: 383 - 29/08/2021 09:41:55    2375865

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It is fantastic to have a novel All Ireland pairing. Dublin have been great champions but defeat this year gives new hope to all, My fear was that the period of Dublin dominance would be replaced by a period of Kerry dominance, but thanks to Mayo and Tyrone our championship may be opening up again which is good for the game overall.
The final could be a great game, It is up for grabs, Tyrone potentially have the better forwards but Mayos hunger may get them over the line

NorthKildare (Kildare) - Posts: 197 - 29/08/2021 10:07:30    2375869

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "I'm really looking forward to this novel-paired final.

AFAIK, it's only the sixth final ever out of 134, not to have a team from either Munster or Leinster involved it: 2002-Tyrone vs. Armagh; 1925-Galway vs. Cavan; 1933-Cavan vs Galway; 1943-Roscommon vs Cavan; 1948-Cavan vs Mayo.

While I'd dearly love to see Mayo win Sam, after all their previous heartbreak, I also have a very healthy respect for Tyrone football. It wouldn't bother me to see Sam go north either. So, may the team on the day, win it."
That's a very interesting and telling statistic foreveryoung. Thanks for that. Best of luck to both teams in the Final.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2488 - 29/08/2021 10:11:02    2375872

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "Well were Mayo ever favorites going into any of those finals ?

I doubt if they were, but they will be slight favorites now and that's what I mean by complacency."
Think they were favs in 96, certainly in the replay they were.
That been said the hand of history is on their shoulders but for the most part it's youngsters and guys that don't really care what the others went through, keegan the oses etc will feel it but it's time for them to look at it been their last chance saloon. It's a 50/50 game with a slight nod to mayo.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 29/08/2021 10:14:06    2375876

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The team that beats the Dubs will be the team to win. The Dubs are the standard now, it used to be Kerry. Now it is Dublin. Mayo beat the Dubs.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2620 - 29/08/2021 10:14:58    2375877

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Replying To jacktheDub:  "I hope Tyrone win it I have always had a soft spot for them, think they have the better forwards..think they will have balls to see this through..will Horan have the same with O'shea something tells me he will bottle that call. Tyrone by 5."
On the contrary , it would be total madness not to start Aidan O'Shea against Tyrone.

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 29/08/2021 10:24:50    2375881

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "I'm really looking forward to this novel-paired final.

AFAIK, it's only the sixth final ever out of 134, not to have a team from either Munster or Leinster involved it: 2002-Tyrone vs. Armagh; 1925-Galway vs. Cavan; 1933-Cavan vs Galway; 1943-Roscommon vs Cavan; 1948-Cavan vs Mayo.

While I'd dearly love to see Mayo win Sam, after all their previous heartbreak, I also have a very healthy respect for Tyrone football. It wouldn't bother me to see Sam go north either. So, may the team on the day, win it."
Donegal - Mayo 2012

richardcrowe (Mayo) - Posts: 61 - 29/08/2021 10:25:08    2375882

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Replying To jacktheDub:  "I hope Tyrone win it I have always had a soft spot for them, think they have the better forwards..think they will have balls to see this through..will Horan have the same with O'shea something tells me he will bottle that call. Tyrone by 5."
Bottle what call? I would be starting O Shea. The captain taken off after having a poor semi final? You put him back in and tell him he needs to get the finger out. O Shea will know Horan will have no qualms taking him off again.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8456 - 29/08/2021 10:41:08    2375890

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Replying To galwayford:  "The team that beats the Dubs will be the team to win. The Dubs are the standard now, it used to be Kerry. Now it is Dublin. Mayo beat the Dubs."
It didn't work out like that in 2014. Donegal took out Dublin, but lost the final. It often happens in sport where the team that takes out the favourite doesn't finish the job. A more recent example was in our club championship last year with Mountbellew beating Corofin but losing the county final.
In saying that, I'd have Mayo as favourites. I think physically they match up very well against Tyrone's strengths.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2410 - 29/08/2021 10:52:06    2375898

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Replying To CC2020:  "Donegal begrudgery of Mayo is amazing. Have a little think about your own county's mental weaknesses over the last few years. Serial underachievers since 2012. Can't get to a final since 2014."
I don't understand the Donegal lads having a constant go at Mayo myself. We won the big one against them in 2012 but then they gave us 3 beatings since I believe in championship.

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1470 - 29/08/2021 11:03:56    2375908

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Think they were favs in 96, certainly in the replay they were.
That been said the hand of history is on their shoulders but for the most part it's youngsters and guys that don't really care what the others went through, keegan the oses etc will feel it but it's time for them to look at it been their last chance saloon. It's a 50/50 game with a slight nod to mayo."
Them youngsters also bet tyrone in minor final to end a famine they'll feel it's their chance to.

Sssthe (Mayo) - Posts: 59 - 29/08/2021 11:09:46    2375912

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Tyrone beat a very poor Kerry team , who were some bad shot selections away from reversing the result. Tyrones forward line was poor enough, McCurry is an overrated footballer who when faced with proper intercounty standard backs was kept very very quiet. Morgan kicked an absolute peach from the half way line, but apart from that hes nothing short of a liability , Tyrone lost the majority of the kickouts that they went long with, he also missed some fairly straight forward free kicks and 45s . Its mad that Tyrone havent got a forward who is reliable enough to take frees.
Tyrone also gave away some very poor turnovers with this habit they have of playing around with the balls at the back.

The final was played last weekend when Mayo beat Dublin. Either of those teams would make mince meat of the teams on show yesterday. It might come across as harsh, but its how i see it, id expect Mayo to win by at least 4 points when they play the red hands. Tommy Conroy , Keegan and Ruane will destroy Tyrone.

Its time for us all to see Mayo win an All Ireland in Color

BilboNaggins (Galway) - Posts: 59 - 29/08/2021 11:12:48    2375915

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Replying To BilboNaggins:  "Tyrone beat a very poor Kerry team , who were some bad shot selections away from reversing the result. Tyrones forward line was poor enough, McCurry is an overrated footballer who when faced with proper intercounty standard backs was kept very very quiet. Morgan kicked an absolute peach from the half way line, but apart from that hes nothing short of a liability , Tyrone lost the majority of the kickouts that they went long with, he also missed some fairly straight forward free kicks and 45s . Its mad that Tyrone havent got a forward who is reliable enough to take frees.
Tyrone also gave away some very poor turnovers with this habit they have of playing around with the balls at the back.

The final was played last weekend when Mayo beat Dublin. Either of those teams would make mince meat of the teams on show yesterday. It might come across as harsh, but its how i see it, id expect Mayo to win by at least 4 points when they play the red hands. Tommy Conroy , Keegan and Ruane will destroy Tyrone.

Its time for us all to see Mayo win an All Ireland in Color"
seriously is that post for a laugh

meath1977 (Meath) - Posts: 534 - 29/08/2021 11:19:04    2375919

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Two very hardened counties over the last 8 years of All Ireland finals and semifinals. Neither Mayo or Tyrone caused much damage in their last final versus Dublin but it may help a lot of players settle quickly having that experience. For Tyrone to win a fourth title since the millennium would a great reward for all the hard work going on at all age levels in the county.

Byanthon (Tyrone) - Posts: 1792 - 29/08/2021 11:38:49    2375938

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Replying To richardcrowe:  "Donegal - Mayo 2012"
Indeed. I forgot that one. Thanks for the clarification.

The good thing about this final is that both teams have so many facets of their game that they can vastly improve on. Mayo can't half turn-up. If they put in a first-half like that against Galway and Dublin, Tyrone might be too far down the tracks for Mayo to catch up. However, Tyrone don't have a lethal destroyer in their attack; no David Clifford, so in one sense Mayo should be glad that Kerry are gone. Neither have Mayo a lethal destroyer, unless Cillian O'Connor somehow manages to be match fit.

Tyrone were very poor on long kick-outs yesterday. Did they even win 25% of their own long kick-outs? That won't do in the final. Morgan really needs to up his kick-out game.

So, we've two formidable defences; two teams who like to pack the middle third and whose intensity and work rate can be off the charts at times; and two attacks, neither of which sets the world on fire. So, I predict a low-scoring, war of attrition, where the middle third will turn into a ferocious battlefield, with nothing more than a goal or a point between them at the end. It could even end in another draw. Whichever team kicks its frees better, and makes the fewer mistakes should shade it. Don't expect a classic, but another game like yesterday's enthralling encounter, but with fewer scores.

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2321 - 29/08/2021 12:10:09    2375958

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Like 99.9% of people we all expected a kerry v mayo final and even mayo I'm sure will admit they have been training towards playing kerry now they must change the mindset, and like most people after the game yesterday in my local hostilery "ah its mayos to lose" I'm afraid it will probably register similarly with players no matter how hard they try and keep them focused.Tyrone are a formidable unit can mayo score from out the wings,tyrone flood central areas the likes of tommy conroy could have a torrid day as tyrone will eat him up.An intriguing final ahead two good defences and similar forward lines.

Cornetto2 (Galway) - Posts: 175 - 29/08/2021 12:35:54    2375973

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Replying To Cornetto2:  "Like 99.9% of people we all expected a kerry v mayo final and even mayo I'm sure will admit they have been training towards playing kerry now they must change the mindset, and like most people after the game yesterday in my local hostilery "ah its mayos to lose" I'm afraid it will probably register similarly with players no matter how hard they try and keep them focused.Tyrone are a formidable unit can mayo score from out the wings,tyrone flood central areas the likes of tommy conroy could have a torrid day as tyrone will eat him up.An intriguing final ahead two good defences and similar forward lines."
I think Mayo will believe they have a much better chance of beating Tyrone, just going on the history they have against Kerry Mayo will be delighted it's Tyrone.
I see the bookies have Mayo as favs and the weight of money will make them shorter odds before the game,
Hopefully there's no more covid issues and both teams make it a great final,
I'll be supporting my Ulster neighbours of course and it's a 50/50 game in my opinion, I think and hope Tyrone will shade it, Mayo will be a tough nut to crack though. extra time again?

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3293 - 29/08/2021 13:10:22    2375986

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "I think Mayo will believe they have a much better chance of beating Tyrone, just going on the history they have against Kerry Mayo will be delighted it's Tyrone.
I see the bookies have Mayo as favs and the weight of money will make them shorter odds before the game,
Hopefully there's no more covid issues and both teams make it a great final,
I'll be supporting my Ulster neighbours of course and it's a 50/50 game in my opinion, I think and hope Tyrone will shade it, Mayo will be a tough nut to crack though. extra time again?"
A Tyrone win will give you the excuse to talk up Donegal again next year .
Maybe if Donegal came to their senses and gave the Mayoman the job , people will take your opinion seriously on here.

BeJasus (UK) - Posts: 383 - 29/08/2021 13:47:41    2376006

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Replying To BilboNaggins:  "Tyrone beat a very poor Kerry team , who were some bad shot selections away from reversing the result. Tyrones forward line was poor enough, McCurry is an overrated footballer who when faced with proper intercounty standard backs was kept very very quiet. Morgan kicked an absolute peach from the half way line, but apart from that hes nothing short of a liability , Tyrone lost the majority of the kickouts that they went long with, he also missed some fairly straight forward free kicks and 45s . Its mad that Tyrone havent got a forward who is reliable enough to take frees.
Tyrone also gave away some very poor turnovers with this habit they have of playing around with the balls at the back.

The final was played last weekend when Mayo beat Dublin. Either of those teams would make mince meat of the teams on show yesterday. It might come across as harsh, but its how i see it, id expect Mayo to win by at least 4 points when they play the red hands. Tommy Conroy , Keegan and Ruane will destroy Tyrone.

Its time for us all to see Mayo win an All Ireland in Color"
An... interesting... take.

On McCurry, there were two men on him whenever he received the ball so can't be too harsh and he came up with a couple of big points from play while having a quiet day.

HokeyPokey (Tyrone) - Posts: 1744 - 29/08/2021 14:35:29    2376026

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