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Mayo V Tyrone All-Ireland Football Final

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Replying To TheFlaker: "I can tell you now Mayo will not be losing a game by 6-8 points. The one big difference is that I can confidently say Mayo have the best S and C set up in the country. Even Kerry tried to poach him in 2019 when Donie Buckley left as well. Mayo will have no issues fitness wise." 5 to 7 point loss for mayo. OhtobeARossie (Roscommon) - Posts: 1801 - 31/08/2021 13:57:37 2376769 Link
The hype is building well in Tyrone, Cookstown expects. AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 31/08/2021 14:07:12 2376772 Link
Replying To HuddHastings: "who is Mayos S&C guy these days? is it still solan, whoever it is he is earning his corn that is the main reason they are always thereabouts" Conor Finn MayoDan (Mayo) - Posts: 476 - 31/08/2021 17:13:48 2376830 Link
Replying To Cuhullain: "Mine is the hurling game only although I go to the odd football game, I have a good insight into in depth training. As far as I know Tyrone requested the game be put back a further week, if the postponement was agreed it would mean Kerry would not have kicked a ball for all of 5 weeks, take the miss match against Cork and its 7 weeks. Kerry sportingly agreed to appease Tyrone with their request, it has to be said covid was central to Tyrone's request, personally I would have agreed myself for the same reason that being covid, The 5 weeks without a game was way too much, that's not an excuse it's a reason for Kerry's mental laps at crucial time when under physical pressure, I am not going to mention names but there was up to 5 Kerry lads leg weary with sometimes muscle spasms, I believe after the second water break it was all visibly taking it's toll, with some more than others. I am not saying Tyrone would not have won the game without the extra week, in fact I think they would have, Tyrone were tried and tested and they passed their final test against Kerry. Some poster pointed out that the game was a carbon copy of the Mayo - Dublin, he/she is right about that so Tyrone are going to play Mayo at their own game, as someone said Tyrone are going into the game battle hardened, tried, tested, mentally fit, focused and alert. The extra week off will cause the same upset and unsettle Mayo as it did to Kerry. I really can't see anything other than a 6/7/ or 8 point win for Tyrone. For Mayo people, I hope I'm wrong." Why is the fact Kerry didnt play a game in 5 weeks made such a big deal of? It was only a week more than Tyrone were off. And Tyrone werent even able to play practice matches for 3 of those 4 weeks. While I'd love to see Tyrone win by 7 or 8 it's not going to happen. Whoever wins will win by 1 goal or less. Hopefully Tyrone will win but I'd be very happy for Mayo to end their drought if not. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16416 - 31/08/2021 20:33:14 2376877 Link
At the risk of being chased out of my own county, in fact from the parish of our manager and legend, I wrote this for our auld enemies. Hope they can do it this time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGN2Vm-fmA8 giveitlong (Galway) - Posts: 1287 - 31/08/2021 21:06:18 2376880 Link
Replying To Ulsterman: "Mayo will be massive favourites for this. Tyrone will have their backs to the wall, will be castigated by the Southern media and socdlked pundits. Mayo will also have the backing of everyone outside Ulster and Derry and Armagh will probably support Mayo too." Lol yer probably right. seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 31/08/2021 21:11:24 2376882 Link
Replying To Viking66: "Why is the fact Kerry didnt play a game in 5 weeks made such a big deal of? It was only a week more than Tyrone were off. And Tyrone werent even able to play practice matches for 3 of those 4 weeks. While I'd love to see Tyrone win by 7 or 8 it's not going to happen. Whoever wins will win by 1 goal or less. Hopefully Tyrone will win but I'd be very happy for Mayo to end their drought if not." Yes. Very little commentary on Tyrone's achievement of doing it with so many issues. Kerry maybe had a bit of twiddling their thumbs, but Tyrone had to face a whole range of issues. It's not as if Tyrone were coming into it having a load of qualifiers, they didn't have their team together until just over a week before the match. Jack O'Connor pointed out how Mattie Donnelly didn't look right in the build up and for most of the match and I think there was a bit of ring rustiness in some of their kicking. HokeyPokey (Tyrone) - Posts: 1744 - 31/08/2021 22:24:10 2376892 Link
Not strictly talking about Saturday week, but aside from not winning an All Ireland if there's one thing that has ticked me off as a Mayo fan over the past few decades it's the amount of praise we've gotten in the national media. Especially ahead of a big game, irrespective of changes in management or players over the years. To accept now and again that Mayo aren't a bad team and if things go our way we might be in with a shout would be one thing, but the level of hyperbole has been ridiculous. Immer (Mayo) - Posts: 48 - 31/08/2021 22:31:09 2376895 Link
Replying To giveitlong: "At the risk of being chased out of my own county, in fact from the parish of our manager and legend, I wrote this for our auld enemies. Hope they can do it this time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGN2Vm-fmA8" Good man. What is it about Galway lads writing songs about Mayo ;) yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11664 - 31/08/2021 22:42:29 2376898 Link
Replying To seanie_boy: "Lol yer probably right." Don't see any of that happening. This Tyrone team are quiet likeable and play more offensive football than in recent years. I agree a lot of neutrals will probably want us to win but there are just as many who won't be shouting for us and can't stand the sight of us. Anyway who cares…it effects nothing. Mayo and Tyrone to enjoy the build up and may the best team on the day win. yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11664 - 31/08/2021 22:48:23 2376903 Link
Lot of concern in Tyrone about Mayo. I'd much rather we were playing Dublin in the final. Those new guys Mayo have are excellent, with great engines. Won't be any cramping, that's for sure. And Mayo will have the sympathy of the ref and will get softer frees. That's inevitable; Mayo's quest for Sam is a national saga, and that sympathy won't do them any harm. Mayo have been consistently there or thereabouts for several years. Hardened operators, and they get better as they progress in a competition. They beat Dublin despite playing a very poor first half. Very big ask for Tyrone. essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 31/08/2021 23:51:26 2376910 Link
Mayo have excellent defenders and Tyrone have an excellent defence Tyrone have an edge at goal keeper but Mayo have a better midfield Tyrone haven't got a go to forward and neither do Mayo Both teams have use a turnover based running game and rely on their defenders ability to attack and create overlaps to score Both teams play on the edge and often over it- the team that can keep 15 on the field will have a big advantage The deciding factor will be how Mayo deal with Tyrones concession of the kick out and allow Mayo bring the ball out from defence Beating he blanket and negate the counter attack of Tyrone is key. Mayo have suffered many defeats to this system against Galway through a lack of patience - same as Kerry at the weekend Dublin have shown everyone the template to beat Tyrone - hopefully Mayo are spending these two weeks playing 25 on 18 and moving the ball around the 45 patiently trying to create scores Kerry were careless with possession the last day - Mayo hopefully won't make that mistake On the other hand I could see Tyrone trying to kick long and early to see if Mayos famed tendency to concede early goals is alive an kicking For me the way to beat Tyrone is to let them have the ball and hit them on the counter - beating them at their own game If Mayo have a lot of possession then they have to play the ball around methodically waiting for a chance and allowing the game go to complete **. Either way - no one ever beat Tyrone in a good game of football - here's hoping for a stinker on Saturday week tirawleybaron (Mayo)** - Posts: 1479 - 01/09/2021 02:23:22 2376916 Link
I see mention that "the deciding factor will be how Mayo deal with Tyrones concession of the kick out and allow Mayo bring the ball out from defence"... I certainly hope Tyrone don't concede the kickout. Getting the ball back from the likes of Ruane, Keegan and Durcan once they have it would be very difficult indeed. So to me Tyrone have to push up and strongly contest the Mayo kickout, not concede it. tyroneed (Tyrone) - Posts: 753 - 01/09/2021 13:17:54 2376994 Link
Replying To essmac: "Lot of concern in Tyrone about Mayo. I'd much rather we were playing Dublin in the final. Those new guys Mayo have are excellent, with great engines. Won't be any cramping, that's for sure. And Mayo will have the sympathy of the ref and will get softer frees. That's inevitable; Mayo's quest for Sam is a national saga, and that sympathy won't do them any harm. Mayo have been consistently there or thereabouts for several years. Hardened operators, and they get better as they progress in a competition. They beat Dublin despite playing a very poor first half. Very big ask for Tyrone." The best team on the day will win. 50/50 game imo yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11664 - 01/09/2021 14:08:12 2377009 Link
Replying To timmyhogan: ". Perhaps but I was making a jokey reference to who would get the whistle for the final. Would expect DJ or Gough to be calling it & presuming/hoping either will call it straight. Deegan, who is rightly famed for his integrity, will hardly be involved after missing the Small/Mcl incident." . & DJ gets it. Presumably Gough on the line. Anyone brave enough to call it if its a tight game ? timmyhogan (UK) - Posts: 290 - 01/09/2021 14:25:26 2377016 Link
Looking forward to a good All Ireland. Tyrone might not be my favourite team but their commitment and intelligence to implement Doohers tactics last week were a joy to watch. Conor Meyler a real unsung hero with Tyrone. The work he and Sludden get through for the greater good of the team are commendable. Onto the All Ireland. Mayo slight favourites for me. Gavin white caused some problems for Tyrone through his direct running. Mayo have numerous players with serious pace mixed with serious Athleticism from almost every area of pitch. Also when heat is on Morgan will miss important 45s. 4 weeks is needed to implement tactics on traing field, 2 weeks doesn't suffice, advantage Mayo. Hope Tyrone win. However if they do they won't be shy in letting us know next year in Ballybofey or Omagh. DLlegends (Donegal) - Posts: 503 - 01/09/2021 14:34:04 2377018 Link
Replying To tyroneed: "I see mention that "the deciding factor will be how Mayo deal with Tyrones concession of the kick out and allow Mayo bring the ball out from defence"... I certainly hope Tyrone don't concede the kickout. Getting the ball back from the likes of Ruane, Keegan and Durcan once they have it would be very difficult indeed. So to me Tyrone have to push up and strongly contest the Mayo kickout, not concede it." I see your point but there are very little teams if any that bring the intensity and tackling of a Tyrone team especially in Croke Park. They track runners and bring sheer physicality to any contest as we seen with the semi final. My view is Tyrone will allow Mayo to have their kick outs, they can carry the ball so far and then swarm around the Mayo players, closing off space and hitting Mayo on the counter attack with big hits. The referee will be key in this plan as a ref who doesn't allow much physicality won't suit Tyrone. Mayo may decide to play O'Shea at full forward and try to go long but I suspect McNamee and a sweeper will have that area well covered so long ball doesn't become an option. I think Tyrone's defence is strong and they'll defend from the front, I'm not convinced Mayo's defence is as strong or will be able to cope with the overlapping runners on the counter attack, Tyrone this year have also perfected the long ball/pass which is another reason why I think Tyrone will concede kick outs, be confident of over turning ball and then put balls into space if the run isn't on. I can't see Mayo putting up a big score in this final and whilst the coverage will point towards a close final I think it is Tyrone's by four or five points. Mayo had a big win in the semi final, won't fear Tyrone due to their record against them but when it comes down to these two sets of players I don't think Tyrone is good opposition for Mayo in the final. sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 01/09/2021 14:45:24 2377021 Link
Joe Mc Quillan to referee the game. Last time out he gave a penalty against us for a not last man tackle outside the box so hopefully he redresses that. tyroneed (Tyrone) - Posts: 753 - 01/09/2021 14:48:39 2377023 Link
Replying To tyroneed: "Joe Mc Quillan to referee the game. Last time out he gave a penalty against us for a not last man tackle outside the box so hopefully he redresses that." . Yea but 4 minutes later he gave nothing when it was a stone cold black card/peno under the new rules. So when it comes to the final - who knows. timmyhogan (UK) - Posts: 290 - 01/09/2021 14:59:53 2377026 Link
Hope he calls it fairly, based on want happens on the pitch Immer (Mayo) - Posts: 48 - 01/09/2021 15:25:55 2377036 Link