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Mayo V Tyrone All-Ireland Football Final

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Replying To galwayford:  "Who would Mayo have preferred, well deep down I believe they are relieved they are not playing Kerry. How many times down the years have they lost to them in finals. Tyrone will not fear the Mayos, and the Mayos will need their A game to win. That means imho playing Aidan O Shea."
To be fair I don't think Mayo feared this particular Kerry team. Even with Clifford but I get your overall point. Tyrone a better team defensively than Kerry. It will be interesting to see what happens.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8456 - 28/08/2021 19:08:18    2375599

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "Tyrone's name could be on this, huge risk of Mayo complacency now.

At least we have a 50 / 50 final at long last."
Haven't won a final in 70 years and have lost 10 since 1989.

I don't think we even know what the word complacent means in terms of football matches in Croke Park.

Unless I'm missing something like a new wave of Covid through the Tyrone camp this evening?

maccoscair (Mayo) - Posts: 10 - 28/08/2021 19:12:23    2375604

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Genuinely have no idea. Anything could happen. Both teams will have no fear of each other, which may mean that both teams can play up to their potential. Either way, football's a winner already, with such a novel pairing in the final.

essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 28/08/2021 19:12:47    2375605

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Replying To galwayford:  "Who would Mayo have preferred, well deep down I believe they are relieved they are not playing Kerry. How many times down the years have they lost to them in finals. Tyrone will not fear the Mayos, and the Mayos will need their A game to win. That means imho playing Aidan O Shea."
50/50.
Down to who's the most disciplined, and who wants it more.

BeJasus (UK) - Posts: 383 - 28/08/2021 19:13:00    2375606

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Replying To Ronan1989:  "The All-Ireland is coming back to Ulster. Tyrone doggedness and lack of pressure (beating Kerry is already bonus territory) will see them over the line.

Mayo already win their final a few weeks back and their mental weakness will show again."
The third Mayo negative comment i've read from you this evening...

nicko94 (Mayo) - Posts: 69 - 28/08/2021 19:18:56    2375608

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Replying To maccoscair:  "Haven't won a final in 70 years and have lost 10 since 1989.

I don't think we even know what the word complacent means in terms of football matches in Croke Park.

Unless I'm missing something like a new wave of Covid through the Tyrone camp this evening?"
Well were Mayo ever favorites going into any of those finals ?

I doubt if they were, but they will be slight favorites now and that's what I mean by complacency.

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 28/08/2021 19:22:20    2375612

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Replying To Ulsterman:  "Mayo will be massive favourites for this. Tyrone will have their backs to the wall, will be castigated by the Southern media and socdlked pundits. Mayo will also have the backing of everyone outside Ulster and Derry and Armagh will probably support Mayo too."
Sorry to disappoint you but everyone I know wanted tyrone to win today, and had kerry won today the whole country would have been against them in the final.

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1942 - 28/08/2021 19:26:28    2375617

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Replying To Ulsterman:  "Mayo will be massive favourites for this. Tyrone will have their backs to the wall, will be castigated by the Southern media and socdlked pundits. Mayo will also have the backing of everyone outside Ulster and Derry and Armagh will probably support Mayo too."
Tyrone don't give a shite who back or don't back them. They back themselves.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8115 - 28/08/2021 19:48:33    2375645

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "Tyrone's name could be on this, huge risk of Mayo complacency now.

At least we have a 50 / 50 final at long last."
No way are Mayo getting complacent. The pressure might get to them but the young lads on the team for me are a huge benefit to them . Experience is great but with Mayo some of the more senior lads are carrying a lot of hurt- if they win I think it'll be the young lads getting them over the line

galwayfball (Galway) - Posts: 1704 - 28/08/2021 19:52:06    2375651

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Congratulations to Tyrone. The Final should be awesome. Yes I'm pulling for Mayo due to their history but I have no problems with Tyrone. Best of luck to both teams. Hopefully it's a Classic.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2575 - 28/08/2021 19:58:32    2375654

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Honestly as the game went on today I didn't have a preference. You got to be careful what you wish for. Tyrone will be extremely difficult to beat. It will take a monumental effort for Mayo to win this final but we can do it. So can Tyrone and neither county will fear each other. Epic battle ahead.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11657 - 28/08/2021 20:02:42    2375657

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Replying To Ulsterman:  "Mayo will be massive favourites for this. Tyrone will have their backs to the wall, will be castigated by the Southern media and socdlked pundits. Mayo will also have the backing of everyone outside Ulster and Derry and Armagh will probably support Mayo too."
Tyrone just beat the favourites, and now play a team with a horrendous record in finals. But despite all here are the PP odds.

Mayo 4/6 Tyrone 6/5, anybodies game but Mayo MUST win this!

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8795 - 28/08/2021 20:09:18    2375664

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We have to believe now we can win this in September, although have to be given a lot of credit disposing of Dublin, mayo will certainly not fear Tyrone, I feel IMHO tyrone can win this one after today! But mayo are a dangerous team also and will be hungry Tyrone abu

ta32 (Tyrone) - Posts: 4907 - 28/08/2021 20:22:26    2375678

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Replying To realdub:  "Tyrone just beat the favourites, and now play a team with a horrendous record in finals. But despite all here are the PP odds.

Mayo 4/6 Tyrone 6/5, anybodies game but Mayo MUST win this!"
The goalkeeper Morgan is a liability for Tyrone.I wouldn't want him taking a free kick to save my life. Tyrone need to change their keeper for the Final. Mayo are favourites but it's really 50/50. Great chance for both counties to win an All Ireland.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2488 - 28/08/2021 20:25:02    2375682

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Honestly as the game went on today I didn't have a preference. You got to be careful what you wish for. Tyrone will be extremely difficult to beat. It will take a monumental effort for Mayo to win this final but we can do it. So can Tyrone and neither county will fear each other. Epic battle ahead."
Watching the game today I couldn't but wonder who had the covid outbreak it looked more like Kerry than Tyrone they were out on their feet at the end of normal time that's one area mayo will match Tyrone fitness and work rate also mayo wont fear Tyrone no baggage like against Kerry it's a mayo win by 1or2 points

minor77 (Galway) - Posts: 281 - 28/08/2021 20:27:34    2375684

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Honestly as the game went on today I didn't have a preference. You got to be careful what you wish for. Tyrone will be extremely difficult to beat. It will take a monumental effort for Mayo to win this final but we can do it. So can Tyrone and neither county will fear each other. Epic battle ahead."
Wouldn't disagree with your take on the actual final itself.
But had Kerry managed to get over the line today even by a point or a late flukey goal they would be favs for the final.
Today's game would have brought them on a lot - this was their first competitive game in the champo. Tyrone had their Ulster Champo games and played the final in Croker.
But it's all ifs and buts at this stage - Mayo Tyrone is what we've got.

timmyhogan (UK) - Posts: 290 - 28/08/2021 20:54:47    2375703

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Replying To endgame:  "The goalkeeper Morgan is a liability for Tyrone.I wouldn't want him taking a free kick to save my life. Tyrone need to change their keeper for the Final. Mayo are favourites but it's really 50/50. Great chance for both counties to win an All Ireland."
He's a good goalkeeper.

Only flaw is his kick outs. Inclined to have head staggers at times which effectively ended the final against Dublin in 2018.

Was pretty good on them today, but against Mayo would be absolute suicide to not win at least 75% of own restarts. I'm sure that's something they can improve on which is actually a plus, as Tyrone are very good in most parts of the field. Will be interesting how that goes in the final.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3660 - 28/08/2021 21:04:17    2375708

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From a Kerry perspective, this final isn't really our problem. We blew it today. Good luck to those who are in it. You have to be in it to win it.

There's the rub though. Most finals are cagey enough. They are seldom classics. The occasion and even the weather can have a profound effect on the result. Luck too needs to be on your side. You often win finals you should lose and vice versa.


So, what should the finalists do? Keep preparing as best they can. Control what they can control. Make plans. Accept that most plans seldom survive in tact after contact with the enemy. Have faith in yourselves. Try to do yourselves and the game credit. Good luck!

plike (Kerry) - Posts: 569 - 28/08/2021 21:07:34    2375710

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I hope Tyrone win it I have always had a soft spot for them, think they have the better forwards..think they will have balls to see this through..will Horan have the same with O'shea something tells me he will bottle that call. Tyrone by 5.

jacktheDub (Dublin) - Posts: 944 - 28/08/2021 21:18:46    2375711

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Replying To jacktheDub:  "I hope Tyrone win it I have always had a soft spot for them, think they have the better forwards..think they will have balls to see this through..will Horan have the same with O'shea something tells me he will bottle that call. Tyrone by 5."
That's one thing we can be fairly sure of, tyrone (ulster teams in general), have never bottled a big game or shirked a big challenge, Croker holds no fear for them, if mayo win this they're going to have to do it the hard way.
I really can't call it lol,,can't wait :)

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1942 - 28/08/2021 21:29:57    2375716

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