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Definitely I think Canning would come back if Davy was manager. Davy can be very persuasive and he knows Canning personally from the Collage days katser (Galway) - Posts: 2432 - 09/09/2021 10:55:50 2378995 Link 1 |
1000% no he wouldnt. He has made that clear. Hes the first player that has ever retired where people are specualting days after when he will go back. He's done. Time to move on now.
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 09/09/2021 12:35:30 2379037 Link 1 |
Hes the first player that has ever retired where people are specualting days after when he will go back. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2462 - 09/09/2021 12:55:38 2379045 Link 0 |
Hard to know why that is. They seem to raise their game against Galway and also have the size to counter Galways big men. They dont seem as able for the more modern running and short game.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13347 - 09/09/2021 13:10:25 2379052 Link 0 |
His time with Wexford wasnt great tbh. But we were pretty poorly organised from top to bottom back then and in danger of following Offaly.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13347 - 09/09/2021 13:11:41 2379053 Link 0 |
Ah I see that there was an element of ball hopping in my posts on this. I watched all your games that year and supported you in all of them except against us and Waterford. The final I wouldve been equally happy if Waterford had won. Seriously though I did wonder at the time that if you got a dynamic midfield type of player to push up on the sweeper would that negate him altogether as an origin for counter attacks. The game has moved on, or maybe that should read back to the 19th century, in so far as starting positions dont really matter any more.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13347 - 09/09/2021 13:18:12 2379055 Link 0 |
We had alot of good players. Our fitness and strength and conditioning were atrocious though. And confidence was very low too on account of the bad beatings we got off that awesome Kilkenny team in Croke Park in the late noughties.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13347 - 09/09/2021 13:21:29 2379058 Link 0 |
Galway have as many lads playing hurling at club level as Kilkenny or so I was led to believe.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13347 - 09/09/2021 13:22:52 2379059 Link 0 |
Then Davy could play him as a sweeper.
Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2049 - 09/09/2021 13:49:50 2379066 Link 0 |
Canning would be an excellent sweeper. His distribution is top class!
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13347 - 09/09/2021 14:03:10 2379070 Link 1 |
I think Davy will never manager an all Ireland contender again. He brings to much of a side show Newyorkkat (Kilkenny) - Posts: 156 - 09/09/2021 14:32:05 2379078 Link 1 |
Fair enough. Not too young but that was a very different scenario. DJ was in his prime. canning isnt and is half crippled but point taken.
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 09/09/2021 15:53:46 2379102 Link 1 |
They have bought into the template that was successful in Limerick, but without the players to be able to match not only Limerick but any of the other contenders with the exception of Galway, who seem to have a strange psychological thing with Dublin. The one positive is that the short passing controlled game has built a really tough defence, but that will only get you so far. Dublin no longer get tankings, but they lose too many games by a score or two points that they never look like winning! I'd compare them to Cork in some ways, except that Cork have the 3/4 exceptional players especially up front who can win games. Dublin, with the current exception of Hayes, just don't have that sort of added ingredient. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2964 - 09/09/2021 15:56:49 2379104 Link 0 |
Agree 100%, I don't think too many all ireland contenders would want him either.
Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2049 - 09/09/2021 16:02:38 2379109 Link 0 |
Yes we can compete but we won't win. We might win one every 20 years or so. Too much drain on the county boards with it split equally. We could give the football side of the county to mayo and roscommon then we will be sound with finances lol.
ecad123 (Galway) - Posts: 272 - 09/09/2021 17:23:30 2379146 Link 0 |
And give the hurling side to Tipp and Clare? Our identity will then be zero. In fairness that attitude is part of the reason we are where we are today given the experience of the failed hurling centre of excellence. Obviously you are hurling only as is your right but remember there are a large amount of football people who support the hurlers as evidenced by all the are arann sponsored Jersies I witnessed ar the hurling semi in 2012 against Cork where we were making a breakthrough of sorts. 20 yrs ago today we were unfortunate to lose the hurling final to Tipp. That is how close we were to a double. We can reach those heights again with some vision and strategy.
kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1973 - 09/09/2021 18:06:35 2379153 Link 2 |
"Also KK and Tipp to a lesser extent have a code that is king. Galway pretty much are are split down the middle between the two." Populations (data from census of 2016) Galway - 258,058 Tipperary - 159,553 Kilkenny - 99,232 Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2643 - 09/09/2021 18:50:35 2379164 Link 0 |
Am well aware of the pop stats. Just noting where the focus is in the respective counties. One code counties like KK in fairness can focus all resources on that code. Having said that as I have noted before we should have sufficient personnel to be at least competitive in both codes.
kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1973 - 09/09/2021 20:18:28 2379172 Link 1 |
No just give away the football side lol. You are 100% I am hurling to the core. The only cup that matters to me is Liam. Can't see a double being ever done again who do you think would do it ? The financial demands for both now are too great. Look at limerick cost is no object players being looked after, when money is not a barrier the whole thing changes. Not that's the only reason why limerick are so good. Our county board are so crooked 50 thousand on credit cards for what looked like personal things even our sponsor wanted answers 4 years before this. You got to love Mayo every mayo person I know is football mad and they are from all over and live all over galway they will support their team no matter what even though they have had so much disapointment. In Galway city most would not even know Galway are playing a championship hurling match and leave it alone out in conemara. Again rugby and the premiership are more important in there, not so in tipp or Kilkenny.
ecad123 (Galway) - Posts: 272 - 09/09/2021 20:27:19 2379176 Link 0 |
Well in Fairness Tipp were Munster Football champions last year and beat Galway in the football championship a few years back. Limerick have also contested Munster Finals in the sixties, nineties, oughties and teens and lost out to Tipp last by a single point. Kilkenny, however. is totally hurling orientated. Often the number of people in a county is not the issue, but the number that are actually seriously engaged in hurling.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4458 - 09/09/2021 20:46:46 2379182 Link 0 |