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He wasn't challenging from the front."
He most certainly was challenging from the front. Smalls shoulder made no contact with McLaughlins shoulder. All the contact was in the chest and head. No way can a player make a legal challenge from that position. We all like physical play but that was a shoulder into the front

cluichethar (Mayo) - Posts: 523 - 16/08/2021 23:17:46    2372184

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Replying To Leftpeg1:  "Ye you're right Cluxton was only an average keeper. You should have taken him for a few sessions and showed his what to do in those situations."
Read what I said, he could be rattled at times when pressure was on. I never mentioned average.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2291 - 16/08/2021 23:40:33    2372185

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Replying To Gavvygavgav:  "He didn't bounce the ball once during that passage of play, only soloed it. If that's overcarrying then the whistle would be blown 4 or 5 times every minute."
Fair enough, when whistle blew on Sunday it's seemed to be a flick of a coin which team ref was going to give free to. Lost all control.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2291 - 16/08/2021 23:46:45    2372187

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Dublin really let themselves down in that game. What a disgrace! Total filth.

hurlinspuds (Cork) - Posts: 1494 - 16/08/2021 23:48:29    2372188

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Replying To Gavvygavgav:  "No, for overcarrying, which it never was."
Definitely not compared to Ciaran Kilkenny's average of 9 steps.

Mailman98 (Galway) - Posts: 319 - 17/08/2021 00:01:39    2372190

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Replying To baire:  "Give me one example of sour grapes from my posts! If you go back over my posts you'll see that I remarked that I was astonished that some Galway posters would prefer to see Dublin win than Mayo. I also know that there are some Mayo posters who would feel the same if Galway were playing Dublin. Why would I have sour grapes? Galway have won 14 Senior Football All Irelands between football and hurling, Mayo have won 3 Senior All Irelands. I'll be delighted if Mayo win this year. Those of us who following hurling in Galway know well what it's like to lose All Irelands. I couldn't understand how some of the Dublin players, who have won so many All Irelands, were so unsporting yesterday."
How is it astonishing? I don't know of any local rivals who want their neighbours to win in any sport worldwide. You probably follow a Premier League team like Man Utd or Liverpool and would break out in a cold sweat if the other wins a trophy. Do you think the Cork people will be backing Kerry against Tyrone or Armagh backing Tyrone v Kerry? Nobody would bat an eyelid at Meath lads shouting for Mayo but Galway people are expected to back Mayo just because they never win an All Ireland. I find it astonishing that any Galway person in their right mind would want Mayo to bring a cup across the Shannon. I'd also be disgusted if Mayo fans got any pleasure from a Galway win.

Mailman98 (Galway) - Posts: 319 - 17/08/2021 00:25:23    2372194

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Replying To cluichethar:  "Mick can you explain how a player can deliver a legal shoulder to shoulder hit when challenging from the front. Small hit McLaughlin on the left side of his chest & his head. No way can a player make a legal hit from that starting position"
Hi Cluiche that. I never said it was a legal shoulder. I said it looked good in real time. It was nt good it was a red card offence. When I saw it in action replay I agree it was over the top and red.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3911 - 17/08/2021 00:27:28    2372195

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Replying To Aibrean:  "Good post. I too can't understand why the 'experts' have such difficulty with the black card rule. The rule states: "To deliberately pull down an opponent". The word 'deliberately' is obviously crucial. So, clearly, the Small/McLoughlin incident did not merit a black card. In any case McLoughlin fell to the ground as if he were in the Euro Finals. And, by the way, the word 'intent' does not feature anywhere in the rules.
Errors - not highlighted - by Conor Lane included a pick-off-the-ground by John Small (37th min) and penalising Davy Byrne (61st min) for over-holding.
Of the two, Gough is by far the better ref."
You might fall to the ground like a sack of spuds if your jaw was broke in two places. Your county man Tomas O'Shea said last that Small owed a duty of care to the man he was tackling and once it went so badly wrong he should have walked.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4490 - 17/08/2021 00:34:20    2372196

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Replying To Loughduff Lad:  "Lots were clear, the shoulder to the head, the closed fist clothesline to the jaw, and the elbow to the head after the equalising free are the 3 off the top of my head. Think there was another in extra time. 3 clear red cards, which the Su8nday Game dud highlight and was pretty unanimous in saying they were red"
After watching numerous replays they decided they were red cards. The referee doesn't have the privilege of replays and hopefully he never will have, such is the state video referees have made of other sports.

Mailman98 (Galway) - Posts: 319 - 17/08/2021 00:37:01    2372197

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Replying To Loughduff Lad:  "Are you seriously trying to suggest that head injuries are inevitable and acceptable? They never should be. Rugby is changing and is still watchable, you have to enact change and can't just say head injuries are acceptable as part of a game. It cannot and should not. Please don't defend this"
So are you saying that head injuries are not acceptable in any sport including boxing then?

Mailman98 (Galway) - Posts: 319 - 17/08/2021 00:39:30    2372198

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Replying To mayo_123:  "ohora and walsh as I said both deserved yellow both tangled with each other off the ball away from the play .small did it right in front of ref and another ref on side line badly timed hit"
But Walsh got injured which by your logic on McLaughlin makes the other player entitled to a red. I'm merely trying to show you how flawed that logic is and you've confirmed that by saying O'hora didn't deserve a red for injuring Walsh.

Mailman98 (Galway) - Posts: 319 - 17/08/2021 00:47:30    2372199

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Replying To daytona11:  "I don't think so. Might be an idea to actually elaborate on a point rather than sneering.

When is school back?"
You said Oshea offers nothing at full forward then your next point was that Horan got nothing wrong. I'm just wondering who picked Oshea at full forward and left him there for 35 minutes? Keep up Einstein.

Mailman98 (Galway) - Posts: 319 - 17/08/2021 00:52:28    2372200

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Replying To Aibrean:  "Good post. I too can't understand why the 'experts' have such difficulty with the black card rule. The rule states: "To deliberately pull down an opponent". The word 'deliberately' is obviously crucial. So, clearly, the Small/McLoughlin incident did not merit a black card. In any case McLoughlin fell to the ground as if he were in the Euro Finals. And, by the way, the word 'intent' does not feature anywhere in the rules.
Errors - not highlighted - by Conor Lane included a pick-off-the-ground by John Small (37th min) and penalising Davy Byrne (61st min) for over-holding.
Of the two, Gough is by far the better ref."
Mclaughlin fell to the ground as if he were in the Euros? The guy needed surgery on a double jaw break.

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1256 - 17/08/2021 01:50:24    2372203

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What's your problem with Mayo Tirchonnail. You seem obsessed by them and Aiden O Shea. I live in Donegal and you are a very poor representative of your county. Be thankful that we sent ye up Michael Murphy, Paul Duncan and Marty Reilly. You should be more concerned about your own counties performances on the pitch than constantly slagging off Mayo. You must live a very sad life.

boholabob (Mayo) - Posts: 6 - 17/08/2021 05:15:34    2372209

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Replying To galwayfball:  "I agree refs have an awful hard job. A rivalry like Dublin mayo will spill over at some point during the game. Whatever about the calls he got wrong not stopping the game for McLaughlins injury is for me the issue. Like you said err on the side of caution. It was a horrible decision. The man needed immediate attention and Lane was to blame for him not getting it

I can completely understand how the man could get the call wrong on it being a fair tackle now Mcstay fawning over Dublin with the benefit of the replays we all saw and all could see as a straight red was stomach churning. Our money pays these people good money and they get other jobs from it- why can the punditry be so poor and they have no fear of being dismissed

Staunton called out the refs poor performance and Cantwell jumped in to have a joke about having her Mayo hat on - almost dismissing her, similar to spillane trying to defend Clifford from accusations of hand holding when replays were clearly showing he was fouled ("
The irony being that Cantwell is a former Dublin ladies footballer and is open to the same charges as Staunton there.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 17/08/2021 05:56:04    2372210

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Great to see legend publican Mick Byrne being interviewed.
Hopefully the link works.

https://twitter.com/radiomidwest/status/1427236946556895232?s=19

Knoxboya (Monaghan) - Posts: 369 - 17/08/2021 08:00:54    2372212

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While it's great to see change at the top table,I feel people are been a bit hasty in talking about the decline of the table toppers....not alot between the top 4 teams,granted Dublin have slightly come back to the pack,but can anyone seriously say if that current squad got Jack and Paul Man back that they wudnt be contenders again?????

Fkd12 (Louth) - Posts: 196 - 17/08/2021 09:03:23    2372220

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Replying To Pericles:  "Did Comerford not hop the ball twice?.. that's what I thought at the time and I didn't watch the SG for their slow-moron analysis."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWuFl_8DiWc - doesn't even hop it once. Very harsh overcarrying call for a tap over free.

TrueBlue35 (Dublin) - Posts: 233 - 17/08/2021 09:20:14    2372222

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Replying To Saynothing:  "Agree, seemed to bounce ball twice, goes to show when the pressure is on they were made to look average. Cluxton was the same, when you pushed up and covered men he more than likely kicked ball over sideline. Done it umpteen times in the past. Schoolboy stuff in the back line when their panicked."
Let it go, - and throw out that shovel.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 3179 - 17/08/2021 09:28:01    2372223

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Replying To Mailman98:  "You said Oshea offers nothing at full forward then your next point was that Horan got nothing wrong. I'm just wondering who picked Oshea at full forward and left him there for 35 minutes? Keep up Einstein."
He took O'Shea off.

Got that right.

That's obviously what I meant. On the sideline on the day Horan got his calls spot on.

daytona11 (Kildare) - Posts: 4012 - 17/08/2021 09:36:36    2372226

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