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You're correct Joxer Smalls shoulder was as you and McStay said square on Square on to McLaughlins head. It's not an opinion it's a fact proved by video replay. Even if Small hadn't hit his head it was still a frontal challenge no where near the shoulder. Even in rugby Small would be facing a suspension. Dublin are great champions and I didn't expect them to roll over, they did what they did to try and win. AOS could & probably should get suspended for his stupidity. Yes there was high tackles by both teams. Saying Smalls challenge was clean is ridicules and you know it. cluichethar (Mayo) - Posts: 563 - 15/08/2021 13:16:31 2371479 Link 1 |
Never been a massive fan of Dublin but I think John Smalls challenge was very unfortunate. If you have ever kicked a bit of ball and there is the chance of going in for a good shoulder you go for it. Small unlucky that it connected with the head. A split second and it could have been a great shoulder to shoulder challenge. It's a game of inches. Dublin let themselves down last night, should have finished the game with 10 or 11 players between black and red cards. James McCarthy should have walked for swinging the elbow back after the Mayo equaliser. Conor Lane bottled at least 2 black cards. Great to see Mayo win, would be great to see them go all the way but I feel Kerry will have too much fire power for them.
lumpitin21 (Armagh) - Posts: 4 - 15/08/2021 13:17:52 2371480 Link 1 |
"Cillian is good at taking frees", you are the master of the under- statement.
tireoghainabu (Tyrone) - Posts: 409 - 15/08/2021 13:18:30 2371481 Link 2 |
Why am I troll? I stated an opinion and I stand over it. Well done on your win yesterday but there is nothing won. Go out and win and prove me wrong. I just thing that this Kerry team are set for their own period of dominance and will lay down a marker in the final and they will convincingly beat Mayo. i would love to be wrong and I will happily admit it if I am.
bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 15/08/2021 13:21:28 2371484 Link 3 |
I didn't know it was Kerry either
mhunicean_abu (Monaghan) - Posts: 1076 - 15/08/2021 13:30:05 2371487 Link 1 |
Great to see the Mayo lads giving all their interviews after winning San yesterday tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 15/08/2021 13:32:12 2371490 Link 3 |
Small s was a blatant red card . Shoulder to head is red card . Any defence of it is embarrassing. GAA want to wait until there's a broken neck before they act. Rebel2020 (Cork) - Posts: 95 - 15/08/2021 13:38:44 2371492 Link 5 |
Kerry are the favourites. I tipped them on here and have had them ahead of Mayo. But Mayo can win and will be a cracker. Your hammering won't happen so you will be proved wrong.
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8458 - 15/08/2021 13:40:11 2371493 Link 5 |
What an incredible game and congratulations to Mayo but I wonder would Dublin have lost yesterday with Jim Gavin in charge. Their game management at the end of normal time was awful and in extra time they couldn't come up with any way to halt the Mayo momentum, something I think that with Gavin there, they would have found a way to do so. As for the referee yesterday, one of the poorest displays I have seen in years. How he thought that challenge to the head was a fair shoulder is beyond me and had Dublin scored a point out of that attack then Mayo would have lost. PK57 (Louth) - Posts: 1664 - 15/08/2021 13:42:15 2371494 Link 1 |
Who said there is anything won? The constant want to put Mayo down on here is hilarious. People having a pop at players doing interviews. They were the 2 different MOTM from the TV. Mayo should be allowed celebrate their win and people should be happy they won, because they are the only team who have actually consistently brought Dublin to the edge while the rest of the country whined and moaned saying the game is dead and nobody can beat Dublin.
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8458 - 15/08/2021 13:56:19 2371503 Link 8 |
These would be the pitch side interviews that are done after every championship game at HQ? Some of ye are priceless.
Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 15/08/2021 14:19:26 2371512 Link 4 |
I agree that it wasn't deliberately dangerous but that type of tackle carries a risk that the intended target could move at the last moment and the accuracy will be off. It looked bad and he could have got the line from another ref. But that's how John plays. Every team has one. I hope the Mayo lad is OK. realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8812 - 15/08/2021 14:42:17 2371521 Link 1 |
He was square on his shoulder but McLoughlin's head was rotating at the time and got clipped as well. It happens when games are played at that pace. We might as well remove the shoulder tackle from the game if a tackle like that goes punished. Small had no intention of making contact with his head.
Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4748 - 15/08/2021 14:48:30 2371524 Link 2 |
Are you actually saying that Small went in to connect with McLoughlin's head? If you are then you clearly have never played the game. It was a shoulder tackle. It's part of the game. Small meant no malice. A ref, linesman and commentators all agreed on that. It comes with the territory.
Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4748 - 15/08/2021 14:51:44 2371525 Link 2 |
the interviews were to man of match regardless who won the interviews would be done then again you might not know that
mayo_123 (Mayo) - Posts: 251 - 15/08/2021 15:10:51 2371535 Link 2 |
I agree with that. At least Meath went out and had a bloody go. And only for two penalty calls who knows ? Dublin might have still won. After seeing what Meath had done why Kildare did what they did baffles me. Mayo knew what to do , the second half start was very reminiscent of Meaths this year. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 15/08/2021 16:12:33 2371570 Link 1 |
The fault lies 100% on Dessie Farrell's shoulders. He took one small facet of Gavin's tactical portfolio and made it his entire gameplan. He essentially sacrificed the inside forward line in order to play risk averse possession football. his appeared to pay dividends in the first half yesterday, but when Mayo stepped out from behind the attempt to hold Dublin the pressure told. There was no plan B, the players, experienced players with more silverware than any other, fell into disarray. Morale visibly plummeted as it was clear they did not believe in the setup and game plan. Whether it was the Covid training session or not that spurred some to step away or not (I'm fairly certain it was), compounded by other personal difficulties with the management, the players themselves know the truth. I'd be surprised if others didn't step away if Farrell continues. He will probably be given another season to try and change the whole thing, but I have very little faith that he has the nous, intelligence nor interpersonal skills to perform what Gavin did post-2014. I never took the Gavin era for granted. He had great players at his command, but he goth them to perform mentally at a different level and in unison. They believed in him, which gave them belief in themselves and the team. There was precious little of that on display yesterday when Mayo stood up and defied them. Gavvygavgav (Dublin) - Posts: 385 - 15/08/2021 16:17:54 2371573 Link 2 |
I literally don't care what his intentions were. The fact of the matter is his shoulder hit Eoin McLoughlins head. That's a red. Simple as. If you're going to be putting in huge shoulders you have a duty of care to the opposition that you won't be giving them brain damage. If you can't be certain you're not going to break someone's jaw in two places then don't put in a huge tackle. A shoulder to the head is a shoulder to the head. In soccer, if you fly in studs up and catch someone's leg it's a red. Regardless if you intended a good tackle. It's in place to protect players by discouraging highly dangerous tackles. jonjon (Mayo) - Posts: 99 - 15/08/2021 16:29:33 2371583 Link 17 |
I've taken no head of posters from with halfnhalf hurling/football counties . A cursory look over the last 5 games involving Mayo Kerry reads at 2 Mayo wins 2 draws and a Kerry win in 2014.. but yeah mayo will lose by 20 points, lol. Pure fresh Air theories designed to antagonise. BeJasus (UK) - Posts: 383 - 15/08/2021 16:42:07 2371586 Link 1 |
I also enjoy the lack of knowledge from posters here who think Kerry are already in the final. TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8458 - 15/08/2021 16:52:07 2371588 Link 7 |