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Replying To baire: "Babs had a mouth and what came out of it didn't always come from his brain! If Tipp hadn't reported it and objected to Keady initially, there wouldn't have been a vote. Oddly enough they didn't report their own player! Wasn't Babs the one who called the Offaly hurlers donkeys, the same donkeys that defeated your own county! The Galwayman who took over Offaly said they were the finest hurlers, that they didn't need any coaching!" Babs also said ..... Limerick finished him as Tipperary manager in 2007! I recall Galway doing something similar with Sean Foley in 1981 to get him suspended. At the disciplinary hearing Galway apparently submitted a doctor's report stating that PJ Molloy may never play hurling again. Yet he lined out for the replay and for more years after that. johnocarroll17 (Limerick) - Posts: 408 - 08/08/2021 14:30:26 2368819 Link
Replying To baire: "Babs had a mouth and what came out of it didn't always come from his brain! If Tipp hadn't reported it and objected to Keady initially, there wouldn't have been a vote. Oddly enough they didn't report their own player! Wasn't Babs the one who called the Offaly hurlers donkeys, the same donkeys that defeated your own county! The Galwayman who took over Offaly said they were the finest hurlers, that they didn't need any coaching!" Baba was a fantastic hurler and footballer too by all account. He also was a very good manager but yes he was prone to verbal assaults. He said the Offaly players were like sheep in a heap. In 1990 when get ready to play Cork he made the infamous statement about Cork that "you can't win a Derby with donkeys". Cork and a certain Mark Foley made Tipp pay heavy for that comment. CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3918 - 08/08/2021 14:47:29 2368826 Link
Jeez this thread has input from everywhere bar Dublin and Mayo about anything apart from Dubs v Mayo. ponga (Mayo) - Posts: 658 - 08/08/2021 14:55:10 2368830 Link
Replying To johnocarroll17: "Babs also said ..... Limerick finished him as Tipperary manager in 2007! I recall Galway doing something similar with Sean Foley in 1981 to get him suspended. At the disciplinary hearing Galway apparently submitted a doctor's report stating that PJ Molloy may never play hurling again. Yet he lined out for the replay and for more years after that." Can I ascertain please, as to where you got this information from? "I recall Galway doing something similar with Sean Foley in 1981 to get him suspended. At the disciplinary hearing Galway apparently submitted a doctor's report stating that PJ Molloy may never play hurling again." The most important word therein is 'apparently'. Can you substantiate your claim? foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2229 - 08/08/2021 15:13:19 2368837 Link
Replying To johnocarroll17: "Babs also said ..... Limerick finished him as Tipperary manager in 2007! I recall Galway doing something similar with Sean Foley in 1981 to get him suspended. At the disciplinary hearing Galway apparently submitted a doctor's report stating that PJ Molloy may never play hurling again. Yet he lined out for the replay and for more years after that." I never heard that but I do remember Foley s challenge on Molloy and it was reckless and very dangerous. It was a definate sending off. CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3918 - 08/08/2021 15:24:11 2368841 Link
Replying To CiarraiMick: "Baba was a fantastic hurler and footballer too by all account. He also was a very good manager but yes he was prone to verbal assaults. He said the Offaly players were like sheep in a heap. In 1990 when get ready to play Cork he made the infamous statement about Cork that "you can't win a Derby with donkeys". Cork and a certain Mark Foley made Tipp pay heavy for that comment." He may have been a great player but there was a bad side to him. Very rare to hear him praise anyone, including his own players and always quick to try to belittle players and teams. He won few friends here when he was winning county championships with a UCD team full of county underage players. Thankfully Ballyhale put an end to them. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3535 - 08/08/2021 18:18:34 2368886 Link
Barefoot Babs 1971 realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8753 - 08/08/2021 19:00:09 2368903 Link
Replying To realdub: "Barefoot Babs 1971" Babs was as good a footballer as he was a hurler. Not shy of voicing an opinion but he was surely one of the greats. avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1991 - 08/08/2021 20:43:07 2368933 Link
Replying To foreveryoung: "Can I ascertain please, as to where you got this information from? "I recall Galway doing something similar with Sean Foley in 1981 to get him suspended. At the disciplinary hearing Galway apparently submitted a doctor's report stating that PJ Molloy may never play hurling again." The most important word therein is 'apparently'. Can you substantiate your claim?" Jimmy Carroll quoted the above statement in the book "Unlimited Heartbreak". To give Galway readers the benefit of the doubt I used "apparently". johnocarroll17 (Limerick) - Posts: 408 - 08/08/2021 21:24:47 2368948 Link
Replying To foreveryoung: "Can I ascertain please, as to where you got this information from? "I recall Galway doing something similar with Sean Foley in 1981 to get him suspended. At the disciplinary hearing Galway apparently submitted a doctor's report stating that PJ Molloy may never play hurling again." The most important word therein is 'apparently'. Can you substantiate your claim?" And Jimmy Carroll was at the same disciplinary hearing as he and Joe Connolly had also been sent off in the drawn game. So he would know. johnocarroll17 (Limerick) - Posts: 408 - 08/08/2021 21:26:42 2368949 Link
Replying To avonali: "Babs was as good a footballer as he was a hurler. Not shy of voicing an opinion but he was surely one of the greats." I don't recall if he played the full game barefoot but he definitely was at some stage of it. 1971 All-Ireland final v Kilkenny. realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8753 - 08/08/2021 22:21:34 2368968 Link
Replying To CiarraiMick: "Well in fairness Keady did acknowledge Tipp and was grateful but was kind of shocked and hurt that his Connaught counterparts voted against him. Folklore has it that Tipp were the ones that reported Keady but that was never proven and seems unlikely as Tipp also had a player in the same circumstance." Time to put an end to this nonsense about the Connaught counties not supporting Keady and the great sportsmen of tipperary supporting him. The facts are that the GAC and the management committee imposed a whip on their members to support the suspension, and to save their jobeens all members of both committees voted to suspend Keady. These committees had four connaught men in theit ranks including the chairman of the Connaught Council. There were two from Leitrim one from Sligo and one from Roscommon. (Names can be supplied if necessary). Keady's case was supported by Mayo delegate Paddy Muldoon and Roscommon delegate Jack Haughey. ( Source Connaught Tribune Report 04/08/1989 and not hearsay) As this was before the fake news era this report is good enough for me regardless of what Keady believed. As for Tipperary supporting the motion I would equate this to Bertie showing his voting slip to Albert before the first vote for the Fianna Fail nomination for President but he did not show it to him for the crucial second vote. In other words Tipp knew that whichever was they voted, Keady would be suspended due to the whip being imposed on the members of the two bodies mentioned above. All whipped members voted against Keady (15 votes) and the final count was 20 to 18 against Keady. Also it was the Tipperary hurling club in New York that reported the matter to GAA headquarters so one could argue that the damage was already done. Sorry for drumming on about it and I know it is a Dublin/Mayo thread but facts are facts and the best of luck to Mayo on Saturday seventyniner (Galway) - Posts: 41 - 08/08/2021 23:02:14 2368976 Link
Replying To avonali: "Babs was as good a footballer as he was a hurler. Not shy of voicing an opinion but he was surely one of the greats." Yes I never saw him play but I remember Paidi Ó Sé saying he was one tough boyo and a top footballer. True he was nt shy about his comments but I agree a gaa legend all the same CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3918 - 09/08/2021 00:23:33 2368994 Link
Replying To johnocarroll17: "And Jimmy Carroll was at the same disciplinary hearing as he and Joe Connolly had also been sent off in the drawn game. So he would know." Thank you. It is something that I didn't know. I've actually spoken to Jimmy a few times in the past, when he'd a pub in Hospital. foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2229 - 09/08/2021 03:50:48 2368999 Link
Replying To ponga: "Jeez this thread has input from everywhere bar Dublin and Mayo about anything apart from Dubs v Mayo." We're onto old hurling finals now!! the_walls (Mayo) - Posts: 497 - 09/08/2021 08:36:14 2369009 Link
Saw Aidan O'Shea on Ireland AM this morning and he's looking very fit I must say. Where will he be played do we know? Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 4097 - 09/08/2021 14:43:29 2369131 Link
Replying To Jackeen: "Saw Aidan O'Shea on Ireland AM this morning and he's looking very fit I must say. Where will he be played do we know?" Yeah he looks in good shape alright. He will be in and out. Hasn't the pace to be chasing after Fenton and McCarthy but will be used at different times. He needs a big game. TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8388 - 09/08/2021 14:57:00 2369137 Link
Replying To Jackeen: "Saw Aidan O'Shea on Ireland AM this morning and he's looking very fit I must say. Where will he be played do we know?" Very AOS to be making appearances on media before big games then disappearing in those games! Mailman98 (Galway) - Posts: 319 - 09/08/2021 15:00:15 2369138 Link
Replying To Unsullied: "I remember 1998 in Mayo very well and I can say truthfully that I never saw a Kildare flag or pillowcase (what sort of deluded nonsense?) Flying anywhere in mayo at the time. I have been reading the forums for a long while now and I feel that Galway contributers have become very bitter and even more deluded. Deluded in the sense that they see themselves as capable of competing with Mayo/Dublin/Kerry and seem to think every year that Sam will be coming home to Eyre Square. I don't see why, if you take Shane Walsh out of the current team they are no better than most of the teams in Leinster." I notice you avoided the bit about the Tony Keady vote. Ashamed maybe? There might be more than one curse. It's well merited if there is. Mailman98 (Galway) - Posts: 319 - 09/08/2021 15:13:02 2369143 Link
Replying To Jackeen: "Saw Aidan O'Shea on Ireland AM this morning and he's looking very fit I must say. Where will he be played do we know?" Whats he plugging this time? Any chance he might perform well against dublin for once this weekend, he is surely due a big game against them HuddHastings (Longford) - Posts: 144 - 09/08/2021 15:13:09 2369144 Link