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Something has to be done with the steps been taken by players.

The rule is 4 steps.

Brennan took 14 steps. Ridiculous. How can you get that wrong.

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 27/06/2021 13:46:04    2353721

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Totally agree. Most of the fouling in football and hurling these days is a consequence of the attacker trying to break the tackle with steps. They are usually on step 5 or 6 as they go into contact . Defenders have no option. If steps were ruthlessly policed the fouling would decrease dramatically.

Rebel2020 (Cork) - Posts: 75 - 27/06/2021 14:30:02    2353740

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "Something has to be done with the steps been taken by players.

The rule is 4 steps.

Brennan took 14 steps. Ridiculous. How can you get that wrong."
Disgraceful refereeing. He was no where near the play. He shouldn't be allowed to ref another game this year as punishment.

thegadfly (Cavan) - Posts: 290 - 27/06/2021 14:39:37    2353745

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Awful band :D

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8597 - 27/06/2021 14:41:18    2353746

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Replying To realdub:  "Awful band :D"
LOl, good one. Getting very tetchy about Trone these days, not a good sign, looking for excuses already.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2757 - 27/06/2021 14:46:19    2353749

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He took 12, by the time this thread is over he'll have ran three laps of the pitch. Sure chalk the goal off, what odds will it make.

The same people who use the stupid Irish euphemism "proud of our amateurism" are the same people crying for professionalism when it comes to refereeing.

Total nonsense.

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 27/06/2021 14:53:14    2353754

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Players have been allowed to take this many steps for years when riding a tackle, its shoddy refereeing

joeteor (Donegal) - Posts: 218 - 27/06/2021 15:51:36    2353775

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Replying To realdub:  "Awful band :D"
Officially the world's 43rd best ABBA tribute band. Quality.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7369 - 27/06/2021 15:52:09    2353776

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Maurice Deegan can be quiet provocative in how he referees some games, overall he hadn't a good game today, in fact he should seriously consider handing back the whistle.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2909 - 27/06/2021 15:57:45    2353778

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "He took 12, by the time this thread is over he'll have ran three laps of the pitch. Sure chalk the goal off, what odds will it make.

The same people who use the stupid Irish euphemism "proud of our amateurism" are the same people crying for professionalism when it comes to refereeing.

Total nonsense."
Not a chance in hell of him running 3 laps of the pitch, sure he was trying to keep up with play from a standing position, wasn't that how he couldn't count the steps he was standing too far away.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2909 - 27/06/2021 16:05:54    2353783

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Steps is a real challenge. You'd kind of take up to 6/7 as a margin of error though beyond that it really has to be called. It happens so much when players are going for goal as they often need that extra second to steady themselves. It must also be very frustrating for a defender and quite often a defender is blown for a foul though only after attacker has overcarried. The defender has no chance to tackle legally because of the overcarry and almost forced to foul.

Today was as obvious as you're going to get and ref will no doubt not be too happy he missed it.
It's hard to count the four and that's why have a margin of error though the minute you even think overcarry blow it up because invariably it is.

Ulsterchamps_32 (Donegal) - Posts: 697 - 27/06/2021 16:06:30    2353784

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Replying To Rebel2020:  "Totally agree. Most of the fouling in football and hurling these days is a consequence of the attacker trying to break the tackle with steps. They are usually on step 5 or 6 as they go into contact . Defenders have no option. If steps were ruthlessly policed the fouling would decrease dramatically."
That's a very good post

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12074 - 27/06/2021 16:09:35    2353786

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They ref was playing advantage, Brennan was being fouled.

Ronan1989 (Donegal) - Posts: 81 - 27/06/2021 16:32:11    2353795

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "He took 12, by the time this thread is over he'll have ran three laps of the pitch. Sure chalk the goal off, what odds will it make.

The same people who use the stupid Irish euphemism "proud of our amateurism" are the same people crying for professionalism when it comes to refereeing.

Total nonsense."
If you consider the ability to count and be fit professional, well so be it....

commander (Kildare) - Posts: 225 - 27/06/2021 16:43:29    2353797

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Replying To Rebel2020:  "Totally agree. Most of the fouling in football and hurling these days is a consequence of the attacker trying to break the tackle with steps. They are usually on step 5 or 6 as they go into contact . Defenders have no option. If steps were ruthlessly policed the fouling would decrease dramatically."
You're right what you say, but two things, firstly the game would be a complete stop start if steps were to be ruthlessly policed and secondly no team is gaining an advantage from lax refereeing at the moment because they are all at it.

To be fair the ref, in a congested area they have enough to be doing than looking at the ground counting steps.

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 27/06/2021 17:02:26    2353811

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Replying To Ronan1989:  "They ref was playing advantage, Brennan was being fouled."
That doesn't entitle him to take all the extra steps. If he was being fouled, the ref should give a free, but two wrongs don't make a right. Sean Hurson applied the rule correctly in Thurles when he gave Dara Moynihan his free, yet he was slated by so-called experts for not giving advantage i.e. allow him to take ten steps and score a goal!

midlands (Westmeath) - Posts: 545 - 27/06/2021 17:34:52    2353824

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "You're right what you say, but two things, firstly the game would be a complete stop start if steps were to be ruthlessly policed and secondly no team is gaining an advantage from lax refereeing at the moment because they are all at it.

To be fair the ref, in a congested area they have enough to be doing than looking at the ground counting steps."
If steps were to be "ruthlessly policed" on a consistent basis by all referees players would soon get the message. But players know that referees will be generous which encourages them to take the extra few steps. Referees who understand the games don't necessarily have to actually count the steps - they will know instinctively if too many have been taken.

midlands (Westmeath) - Posts: 545 - 27/06/2021 17:44:58    2353830

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Replying To Ronan1989:  "They ref was playing advantage, Brennan was being fouled."
So what? You are not allowed commit a foul just because you were initially fouled and you have an advantage. If the player who has the benefit of advantage commits a foul then the correct course of action is to stop the game and give a free for the first foul.

the_walls (Mayo) - Posts: 495 - 27/06/2021 17:48:03    2353831

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Are you only noticing this now?

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1737 - 27/06/2021 18:15:44    2353841

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "Officially the world's 43rd best ABBA tribute band. Quality."
One of my favourite bands ever! They absolutely nailed it with their cover of the Bee Gees classic, Tragedy!

Onion_Sack (Dublin) - Posts: 203 - 27/06/2021 19:03:05    2353866

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