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Kilkenny beat Galway in Thurles, QF I think, the famous display by DJ Carey.
ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 23/08/2021 22:38:38 2374264 Link 0 |
It was childish in fairness. On a side note you really are a true Dub with your talk of "hurley sticks" : ) Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 23/08/2021 22:46:31 2374265 Link 4 |
On what other incidents did I blame the opposition for a Limerick players actions. Go and have a look at the incident and you will see Downey pulling down on his shoulder potentially injuring him and when Lynch goes to follow him O'Mahony jumps into his back for no legitimate reason. Lynch throws him off and ends up getting treatment for his shoulder. The match was well over with no controversial incidents or dirty belts before this so why was Downey trying to injure somebody. updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 817 - 23/08/2021 23:17:58 2374271 Link 2 |
How can a person be involved in the "One Cork" committee and also involved in interviewing Limerick managers. The_Bull (Cork) - Posts: 248 - 23/08/2021 23:51:54 2374274 Link 0 |
Unfortunately I can't see Darragh making it back. An injury magnet. He was the only one that really filled in for DeBurca. It will take astute management to get us over the line. We will get some from the present under age but marrying them to what exists will be the challenge. I believe Kiely is a gem and a target style player using that system prudently. Liam will go to Tipp as it would be hard for him to refuse. Despite what they are saying my sources says they are pursuing him vibrantly. I was worried about the defence but they did a better job than Cork in a losing cause. There is always someone else peaking when we are at our best. Those are the breaks and you have to kick on stronger.
Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2660 - 24/08/2021 00:46:34 2374277 Link 0 |
Absolutely. It is so blatant. I would say 60-70% if not more of "handpasses" in the final were throws. I'm amazed there has been so little talk about it. Refs aren't whistling them because it's an infringement that has become accepted as part of the game. If referees were to whistle them there would be 60 or 70 frees in every game and matches would just turn into free taking competitions like they were at the beginning of the year. Something eventually will have to be done to rid this scourge from the game but I expect the resolve to do so won't come for another year or two. Limiting the number of handpasses allowed to one or two per play with say the third pass required to be made with the hurley would be a major improvement imo. It would make it possible for the referee to focus on seeing evidence for the "clear striking action". It's virtually impossible for referees at the moment when a limitless amount of "handpasses" are allowed. In a sequence of 10 passes, when 5 of them may be illegal, which one do they blow for? And if they do whistle the dodgy ones, players, managers and supporters will be up in arms accusing the referee of ruining the game and turning it into a freetaking borefest.
PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1903 - 24/08/2021 01:19:29 2374279 Link 1 |
Swings and roundabouts tiobrad. That'll change again too. It always does.
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 24/08/2021 02:34:31 2374283 Link 0 |
Canuck, Limerick are top of the pile right now and it looks as if they will be there for a while. All great teams have their period of dominance. Look at Dublin. Then Father Time intervenes. Look again at Dublin. This is a very special Limerick team. No other team is anywhere near them at the moment. Their biggest battle in the near future could be with their own motivation. As for the second half being boring, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The essence of any sport, hurling included is competitiveness. Sunday's final after twenty five minutes was completely devoid of any form of competitiveness. The eventual outcome was in no doubt.
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 24/08/2021 03:19:47 2374285 Link 0 |
I believe you are correct. Their problem now will be who replaces Cahill. Is there a danger they go back to Davy or Derek? For their sake I really hope they don't. Eddie Brennan could be an option too or Henry or DJ. Its crucial they get it right.
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 24/08/2021 09:26:23 2374297 Link 1 |
There is so little talk about throws/handpasses because it is nigh on impossible to adjudicate. StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1733 - 24/08/2021 10:10:55 2374305 Link 0 |
If there are 5 illegal handpasses in a sequence, blow for the 1st one. And keep blowing for any illegal passes. It will lead to dozens of frees and there will be uproar, but eventually players will start handpassing correctly. There is a rule on how to handpass. If players keep infringing, they can't really complain about it. The GAA would need to back the refs to do their job and support them. That's if we actually want to stamp them out. I'd doubt the appetite is there to do so. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2042 - 24/08/2021 10:16:21 2374309 Link 0 |
I agree Waterford look to be best equipped team,but the group munster championship is a disaster in my opinion,not enough time in between games it never ends up equal,1 team always get the short straw,they really need to find 1 more week to extend it,on that basis 22/23 players isn't enough and that's where Limerick have a great advantage
Fkd12 (Louth) - Posts: 148 - 24/08/2021 10:23:14 2374313 Link 1 |
It's a typical "sure leave it alone" hurling thing though. Ignoring rules which are printed in black and white. The cynical fouling rule didn't last to long either. When pundits and podcasts and highlight reels aren't questioning the lack of enforcement then you know it's no going to change. daytona11 (Kildare) - Posts: 4012 - 24/08/2021 10:54:14 2374319 Link 1 |
Referees and the GAA hierarchy have already shown they don't have the stomach to clamp down on illegal handpassing in the face of pressure from players, fans, coaches and media. The only thing to do then is to curb the use of the handpass. Can't give one if you receive one, something like that. It's a great skill, Dj Carey with his handball prowess was a beautiful exponent of it, but it's been made a mockery of now. It's like players picking the ball straight off the ground instead of rising it and people saying "ah shur, let the game flow!" ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 24/08/2021 11:12:37 2374322 Link 2 |
Well yes actually it does. If it's so fast that the ref can't see the definite striking action then it has to be a foul. The main issue here is that it's going to get worse if it isn't dealt with. When the foul hand pass / throw keeps evolving we will have lads using it to pass to a team mate 20 - 25 meters away. The ball should clearly leave the holding hand before being stuck. If done properly it would be impossible to release the ball as quick as most hurlers are now doing it. daytona11 (Kildare) - Posts: 4012 - 24/08/2021 11:23:16 2374330 Link 3 |
Agreed. The media are as much to blame as the managers. They make it seem as if the world is ending when a few managers complain about refs implementing some basic rules. DJ's handpasses were exceptional. He could pass it 30 or 40 yards at pace. To pass it that far, there was clear strike on the ball too. Today's game is full of 5 to 10 yard handpass flicks. The only way to get the ball out quick enough is a throw. Just in case someone thinks this is a dig at Limerick, it absolutely isn't. Every single team is at this. Limerick are the best team in the country by a distance, regardless of how teams are handpassing the ball. Their skill level in every other facet is better too, accurate passing, first touch, catching and shooting. Just putting that on the record. :) WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2042 - 24/08/2021 11:36:40 2374334 Link 0 |
The hand pass because a problem when Gaa stopped players from dropping hurl to make hand pass. Maybe we bring it back... Newyorkkat (Kilkenny) - Posts: 128 - 24/08/2021 12:44:04 2374347 Link 0 |
In the mid 1980's it was commonplace for hurlers to hand pass the ball to the net in play. I never liked that & was delighted the GAA for rid of it in hurling & football. slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6480 - 24/08/2021 13:25:09 2374357 Link 0 |
Well i dont know what people think rhudson (Galway) - Posts: 1478 - 24/08/2021 14:17:48 2374379 Link 0 |
I see some good points on the handpass but I think trying to implement the current rule would be better. Paraphrasing - "there must be a clear striking action" tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 24/08/2021 14:18:49 2374380 Link 2 |