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Poor display against Westmeath, alot of players never go going, Durcan had a great game.

Keegan and Mullin, for me, still not working in the full back line, way more suited to out the field.
Is it a tactic that Horan was good ball payers in every position, so attaching threat form everywhere..
choosing that over an out and out corner or full back, now maybe them players are not there but you would think he would be trying other lads if he wanted that type defender.

tommy132 (Mayo) - Posts: 648 - 24/05/2021 09:53:37    2344838

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Great to see the young players coming through. Westmeath have a lot of pace in their team. This was all about getting the 2 points and getting us into the semi finals.James Horan knows what it takes. He sees them in training. Next week is a chance to play more young lads. Competition in the team is very strong. Corner backs that have to be in contention Eoin o Donoghue, Brendan Harrison, Jack Coyne, Ben Doyle, Boyler. Great to see Jack Carney coming on. I would love to see Colm Moran and Paul Towey in the forward line against Meath. Aaron Mc Donnell is another I'd like to see in the half back line. He adds huge pace to it. David Mc Brien aswell. Jason Doc and hopefully Aido not too far away. I'd be looking to try and add Conor o Malley to the Goalkeepers. James Carr won a lot of ball when he came on. We have to be more direct in our play. Defence needs to tighten up aswell. I was thinking this the last day after the game and wondering would Diarmuid o Connor be better at 5. Great engine and great player. I thought he looked tired last day.

BigJmchalepark (Mayo) - Posts: 35 - 25/05/2021 21:43:15    2345515

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Replying To BigJmchalepark:  "Great to see the young players coming through. Westmeath have a lot of pace in their team. This was all about getting the 2 points and getting us into the semi finals.James Horan knows what it takes. He sees them in training. Next week is a chance to play more young lads. Competition in the team is very strong. Corner backs that have to be in contention Eoin o Donoghue, Brendan Harrison, Jack Coyne, Ben Doyle, Boyler. Great to see Jack Carney coming on. I would love to see Colm Moran and Paul Towey in the forward line against Meath. Aaron Mc Donnell is another I'd like to see in the half back line. He adds huge pace to it. David Mc Brien aswell. Jason Doc and hopefully Aido not too far away. I'd be looking to try and add Conor o Malley to the Goalkeepers. James Carr won a lot of ball when he came on. We have to be more direct in our play. Defence needs to tighten up aswell. I was thinking this the last day after the game and wondering would Diarmuid o Connor be better at 5. Great engine and great player. I thought he looked tired last day."
If Brendan Harrison is back to fitness surely he'll start. I think the fact that there are so few games to get the tactical side right might mean less experimentation than most of us would like. It'd be great to see Paul Towey if he's ready... he'd be a reliable back-up for Cillian on the frees side of things, but whether he's physically ready and able to do the pressing, tracking etc will be key to him getting in. His scoring record at U20 level speaks for itself. An alternative to Rob between the sticks has to be tried. Rob looks like he'll be the No 1 for this season, but his back-up needs game time.

The only way the result might be important is to avoid playing Clare, who seem to be in great form and will be a tough proposition to meet in the semi-final. They're back as good as they were when Mayo played them in Ennis a few years ago and were sticky enough to get past in that game even with a more settled Mayo side.

Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 2521 - 26/05/2021 11:43:47    2345606

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Mullins marking is abysmal . 1-4 from his man by half time, in junior B you'd have the curly finger at 1/2 time.

Wait until Shane Walsh gets a hold of him

club51 (Mayo) - Posts: 395 - 27/05/2021 12:37:26    2345857

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Well lads, have to ask what's happened to Mark Moran why isn't he getting any sight of games anymore? Is he injured or what looked a very promising player ! Best of luck Sunday may the best team win (more than likely that will be yous)!

Meathboyos86 (Meath) - Posts: 73 - 28/05/2021 21:19:02    2346165

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Replying To Northmeath1993:  "Well lads, have to ask what's happened to Mark Moran why isn't he getting any sight of games anymore? Is he injured or what looked a very promising player ! Best of luck Sunday may the best team win (more than likely that will be yous)!"
No idea what the story is with Mark Moran. In comparison to 4 or 5 years ago the forward options are more diverse and the competition might be showing better form and fitness.

Surprised the keeper today will be Rob and that Lee Keegan is still in the corner. Apart from these I'm looking forward to seeing the other changes in championship conditions.

Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 2521 - 30/05/2021 10:52:24    2346464

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why wont the Mayo PRO or J Horan tell the supporters whom they depend on for support both financial and other tell us about the injuries to players, what injury has Harrison and when is he due back ,also when Aiden and the Doc are due back, same for players on the panel like M Moran is he still part of plans and other players who make a good impression in a game and then gone without trace , maybe if the supporters were better kept in the know, a few more of them might buy bricks for the wall

jacktheboy (Donegal) - Posts: 489 - 30/05/2021 12:19:34    2346478

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why wont the Mayo PRO or J Horan tell the supporters whom they depend on for support both financial and other tell us about the injuries to players, what injury has Harrison and when is he due back ,also when Aiden and the Doc are due back, same for players on the panel like M Moran is he still part of plans and other players who make a good impression in a game and then gone without trace , maybe if the supporters were better kept in the know, a few more of them might buy bricks for the wall

jacktheboy (Donegal) - Posts: 489 - 30/05/2021 12:19:35    2346479

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Replying To jacktheboy:  "why wont the Mayo PRO or J Horan tell the supporters whom they depend on for support both financial and other tell us about the injuries to players, what injury has Harrison and when is he due back ,also when Aiden and the Doc are due back, same for players on the panel like M Moran is he still part of plans and other players who make a good impression in a game and then gone without trace , maybe if the supporters were better kept in the know, a few more of them might buy bricks for the wall"
I think the same complaint is heard from other counties and there's a lot of secrecy surrounding the panels of the top 6 or 7 sides. No one knows who's in/out of favour and why... injury, form, whatever. The Kerry lads are always complaining about it, but at least when they announce a team they include the subs, so supporters get to see who's made the cut for a particular game. With Mayo it's just the starting 15, which invariably can be taken as no more than 12 certain starters and it's announced as late as possible... very little meat for us supporters to sink our debating teeth into.

Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 2521 - 31/05/2021 15:01:18    2347008

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Any news on Padraig O'Hora?

He was going very well pre-covid in the 2020 NFL but seems to have dropped out of favour since.
While he was on the panel for championship he was getting very little game time. Was expecting to see more of him during this years league especially with Barrett now retired and Harrison yet to return.

Offtheball10 (Meath) - Posts: 60 - 02/06/2021 15:05:12    2347724

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Replying To Offtheball10:  "Any news on Padraig O'Hora?

He was going very well pre-covid in the 2020 NFL but seems to have dropped out of favour since.
While he was on the panel for championship he was getting very little game time. Was expecting to see more of him during this years league especially with Barrett now retired and Harrison yet to return."
No sign of Swanny unfortunately in James selection.
He seems to be down the pecking order with young guns Jack Coyne and Enda Hession preferred in the match day 26.
He has even reverted in to playing Colm Boyle corner back which is bizarre given he's a centre back and 35. Not doing Colm any favours either

mayotommy (Mayo) - Posts: 3 - 02/06/2021 16:24:32    2347752

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Replying To Northmeath1993:  "Well lads, have to ask what's happened to Mark Moran why isn't he getting any sight of games anymore? Is he injured or what looked a very promising player ! Best of luck Sunday may the best team win (more than likely that will be yous)!"
I am reliably told that he has a gilmores groin injury. It's what kept him out of the AI semi and final last year. It's a pity as division 2 would have been an ideal environment for him to bed in. Hopefully he can come back stronger from it. With the likes of Conroy, Towey, Orme and Ryan O'D coming through of similar age, the future is bright for the Mayo forward line.

mayotommy (Mayo) - Posts: 3 - 02/06/2021 16:27:22    2347753

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Replying To mayotommy:  "No sign of Swanny unfortunately in James selection.
He seems to be down the pecking order with young guns Jack Coyne and Enda Hession preferred in the match day 26.
He has even reverted in to playing Colm Boyle corner back which is bizarre given he's a centre back and 35. Not doing Colm any favours either"
When it comes to the FB line (and every line really) JH goes for pace and mobility above all else, which means outfield players like Keegan and Mullin are back there to cover the ground on big pitches. 6 pacey players with good engines can cover as well as 7 with average mobility. The only reason I can think Colm was brought in the last day is that he'll be used in the sweeper role in place of Chris Barrett. Positional sense rather than pace are what's needed for that and Colm was just being given a bit of game time to complete his rehab assessment. I do wonder had Chris Barrett stayed for one more campaign (which I thought he might) if Colm would have opted out, as I doubt JH would play both now. I'll be hugely surprised if we ever see Colm play centre back again with the likes of Paddy Durcan and Stephen Coen at their playing peaks.

Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 2521 - 04/06/2021 14:36:52    2348219

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Replying To Pericles:  "When it comes to the FB line (and every line really) JH goes for pace and mobility above all else, which means outfield players like Keegan and Mullin are back there to cover the ground on big pitches. 6 pacey players with good engines can cover as well as 7 with average mobility. The only reason I can think Colm was brought in the last day is that he'll be used in the sweeper role in place of Chris Barrett. Positional sense rather than pace are what's needed for that and Colm was just being given a bit of game time to complete his rehab assessment. I do wonder had Chris Barrett stayed for one more campaign (which I thought he might) if Colm would have opted out, as I doubt JH would play both now. I'll be hugely surprised if we ever see Colm play centre back again with the likes of Paddy Durcan and Stephen Coen at their playing peaks."
Even if Coen is at his peak as you say, he's no better than Colm right now. Stephen is what i'd call an intelligent player, knows what's going on, sees what's happening, team player, etc, but has never really influenced a game like Boyler. He'll never get any better either, has never really come on like would have been expected. A pity, but the truth.

davittsman (Mayo) - Posts: 337 - 05/06/2021 19:48:25    2348498

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Replying To davittsman:  "Even if Coen is at his peak as you say, he's no better than Colm right now. Stephen is what i'd call an intelligent player, knows what's going on, sees what's happening, team player, etc, but has never really influenced a game like Boyler. He'll never get any better either, has never really come on like would have been expected. A pity, but the truth."
I agree 100% on Boyler with his aggressive defending, driving out with the ball, teeth gritted... pure inspirational stuff! You're right, Stephen Coen isn't that sort of player now and probably never will be because he doesn't have the same aggressive nature on the pitch, but then neither does Paddy Durcan who imo pound for pound is Mayo's best footballer and is hugely influential without the hard edge. I'd have agreed with you on Stephen not improving up to about 18 months ago, because in virtually every game he'd go through patches of being careless in possession. But tbf to him he seems to have eliminated the 2 or 3 blind/rushed passes he was making per game and he even chips in with the odd point here and there where he used to nearly always land wides. What undoubtedly he has though which JH values is mobility and as you're saying the intelligence to be where he needs to be to fit the game plans.

Overall, when you look at what we have in the younger backs coming into the side, and even the likes of a top class defender like Brendan Harrison (whenever he's fit), we're lacking the 'take no prisoners' players like Boyler. Once we could put teams out with Boyler, Chris Barrett and Tom Cunniffe in the 15. I won't call them hitmen, but any forward caught dawdling on a ball was fair game, with Cunniffe on Peter Harte and Boyler on Comer etched into my memory and probably more firmly etched into theirs too! A good defence is a balance between greyhounds and terriers, but we seem to be mainly greyhounds right now, especially with Barrett retiring. The Dubs have both types of defender and because of their pick always seem to find another one of either type when lads there get bored winning AI medals, and that way they never have to change their system much. Horan and his coaches on the other hand have to adapt the way Mayo plays to suit whatever mix of strengths are in the panel. Kerry are in the same boat, a bit like us, or maybe worse... all hunters and no scrappers, and the fact that they've failed to find a way to beat the Dubs method with those sorts defenders up to this wouldn't inspire confidence that anything other than a Connacht title might be achievable for Mayo this year.

Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 2521 - 06/06/2021 11:51:25    2348608

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Only rumours as of now, but if Cillian is out for a while, Mayo wont be winning a Connacht final

tommy132 (Mayo) - Posts: 648 - 16/06/2021 10:13:20    2351362

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Team named for sligo -

1.Rob Hennelly (Breaffy)
2.Enda Hession (Garrymore)
3.Oisin Mullin (Kilmaine)
4.Lee Keegan (Westport)
5.Paddy Durcan (Castlebar Mitchels)
6.Michael Plunkett (Ballintubber)
7.Eoghan McLaughlin (Westport)
8.Matthew Ruane (Breaffy)
9.Conor Loftus (Crossmolina)
10.Kevin McLoughlin (Knockmore)
11.Darren McHale (Knockmore)
12.Bryan Walsh (Ballintubber)
13.Tommy Conroy (The Neale)
14.Aidan O'Shea (Breaffy)
15.Ryan O'Donoghue (Beal an Mhuirthead)

O Shea will be out around the middle
Loftus on frees
Up to Conroy and O Donoghue to get the scores and Im loking forward to see how they preform without O Connor

tommy132 (Mayo) - Posts: 648 - 24/06/2021 14:31:42    2353084

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Replying To tommy132:  "Team named for sligo -

1.Rob Hennelly (Breaffy)
2.Enda Hession (Garrymore)
3.Oisin Mullin (Kilmaine)
4.Lee Keegan (Westport)
5.Paddy Durcan (Castlebar Mitchels)
6.Michael Plunkett (Ballintubber)
7.Eoghan McLaughlin (Westport)
8.Matthew Ruane (Breaffy)
9.Conor Loftus (Crossmolina)
10.Kevin McLoughlin (Knockmore)
11.Darren McHale (Knockmore)
12.Bryan Walsh (Ballintubber)
13.Tommy Conroy (The Neale)
14.Aidan O'Shea (Breaffy)
15.Ryan O'Donoghue (Beal an Mhuirthead)

O Shea will be out around the middle
Loftus on frees
Up to Conroy and O Donoghue to get the scores and Im loking forward to see how they preform without O Connor"
Was thinking the same thing on the frees. Just hoping we don't see Aidan play quarterback like he did in the second half versus Clare. He was a magnet for a lot of ball played out of defence which meant no quick ball going into the forwards. We have lads in there now who are quick and direct but the ball needs to go in fast to give them a chance. I'd be for starting with James Carr at 14 and keeping Aidan in reserve.

Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 2521 - 24/06/2021 18:18:25    2353144

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Replying To Pericles:  "Was thinking the same thing on the frees. Just hoping we don't see Aidan play quarterback like he did in the second half versus Clare. He was a magnet for a lot of ball played out of defence which meant no quick ball going into the forwards. We have lads in there now who are quick and direct but the ball needs to go in fast to give them a chance. I'd be for starting with James Carr at 14 and keeping Aidan in reserve."
Aidan was cleaning up around midfield in the 1st half against Clare and we scored 2-13. It's a no brainer to play Aidan midfield, there's no comparison between Loftus and him.

MayoDan (Mayo) - Posts: 486 - 24/06/2021 19:45:33    2353157

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cant understand why James Carr and Mark Moran are not on that team , both are scoring forwards with Mayo badly need with O Connor out for the season

jacktheboy (Donegal) - Posts: 489 - 24/06/2021 21:03:55    2353167

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